Halyna Hutchins Shot With Prop Gun - Alec Baldwin indicted & Hannah Gutierrez-Reed charged, 2021 #8

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

I may be wrong but wasn't the lawyer hired to prosecute Baldwin actually a defense attorney?

Kari Morrissey, 'special prosecutor' in this case, she was mostly known for being a criminal defence attorney. IMO her conduct on this case re the revelation about disregarding evidence did her career and reputation no favour. MOO

 

[IceIce9]

Hopefully, she'll be forced to find a new career path. The damage to her reputation and the high cost of any movie company to employ her should be enough to prevent her putting others at risk.

Hopefully a career where she won’t be handling firearms.

 

[Betty P]

MSN

Alec Baldwin and other Rust producers settle with crew members, out of court.

 

[TwinkieDefense]

July 30, 2025 update

Judge dismisses lawsuit filed by Alec Baldwin for malicious prosecution in fatal 'Rust' set shooting

A judge last summer dismissed a charge of involuntary manslaughter against Baldwin in the 2021 death of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins.

www.wfaa.com

[…]

The allegations in Baldwin's tort claim include defamation, with his attorneys saying that prosecutors and investigators targeted the actor and coproducer for professional or political gain.

[…]

 

[Marantz4250b]

I watched the most excellent "Nobody 2" the other night. This is of relevance to the discussion here; that gun he has there is an Airsoft 1911. The dead giveaway is the bottom of the magazine; the circular area is where the co2 capsule goes and the bit ahead of it with the two grub screws is the magazine for the 6mm plastic balls.

Quite an obvious error to make on the part of the director. It does show that real firearm use in movies is diminishing.

 

[Marantz4250b]

And, as if by magic, I just happen to have the very thing lying around

 

[Betty P]

I watched the most excellent "Nobody 2" the other night. This is of relevance to the discussion here; that gun he has there is an Airsoft 1911. The dead giveaway is the bottom of the magazine; the circular area is where the co2 capsule goes and the bit ahead of it with the two grub screws is the magazine for the 6mm plastic balls.

Quite an obvious error to make on the part of the director. It does show that real firearm use in movies is diminishing.
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It's great news that use of real weapons in tv and moviemaking is dimishing. It means a safe set for everyone.

 

[geevee]

A lawsuit by actor Alec Baldwin alleging malicious prosecution in the 2021 fatal shooting of a cinematographer on the set of a Western movie has been reinstated and moved to federal court.

Malicious prosecution lawsuit by Alec Baldwin in 'Rust' shooting moves to federal court

A lawsuit by actor Alec Baldwin alleging malicious prosecution in the 2021 fatal shooting of a cinematographer on the set of a Western movie has been reinstated and moved to federal court.

apnews.com

Too bad there aren't cameras in federal courtrooms, I'd like to see this one, but....

"Baldwin’s lawsuit for damages initially lingered with little activity. It was dismissed in July, only to be reinstated in September at Baldwin’s request. Attorneys for Baldwin say they have approached state and county officials about the prospects for a settlement."

Maybe it won't actually get heard if they can reach some kind of settlement.

 

[TIGER0822]

In my opinion the only investigation into this should be into the judge. Baldwin should be in jail , in my opinion only.

 

[Marantz4250b]

In my opinion the only investigation into this should be into the judge. Baldwin should be in jail , in my opinion only.

Although I thought the trial was an absolute shambles and could have been run waaaay better, it wasn't the fault of the judge that it collapsed.

The prosecution withheld evidence and that is an unconscionable course of action. Don't forget that the second prosecutor (I forget her name, assistant Special Prosecutor or something like that) actually resigned during the lunch break due to the hiding of evidence as she actually has a lot of integrity and refused to put her name to such dishonest conduct. That seems to be a rare quality these days.

The ridiculous thing was that the existence of that evidence (the ammunition that the prosecution repeatedly refused to take possession of) would have had, imo, zero bearing on what he was charged with. The point was that the ammunition in question was alleged to have been part of the batch which included the fatal round. That's completely irrelevant. It makes no difference what-so-ever where the ammunition came from because the origin of the ammunition had no bearing on AB's conduct that day, nor on the conduct of anyone else present.

Regardless of anyone else's culpability, AB was acting recklessly with a firearm and someone died. Two people nearly died. And, yes, in my opinion, he should be in jail.

 

[PrairieWind]

In my opinion the only investigation into this should be into the judge. Baldwin should be in jail , in my opinion only.

I have been litigating cases for 25 years. I think the Judge did the prosecution a favor by pulling the plug when she did. There was more to come from the Defense attorney, and this stopped it.
I know folks don't like AB. He isn't my cup of tea either. But I don't think his actions should have ever been considered criminal. Negligent? Yes, and he settled those suits. But I don't think he should have been criminally charged.

 

[Luna20]

A lawsuit by actor Alec Baldwin alleging malicious prosecution in the 2021 fatal shooting of a cinematographer on the set of a Western movie has been reinstated and moved to federal court.

Malicious prosecution lawsuit by Alec Baldwin in 'Rust' shooting moves to federal court

A lawsuit by actor Alec Baldwin alleging malicious prosecution in the 2021 fatal shooting of a cinematographer on the set of a Western movie has been reinstated and moved to federal court.

apnews.com

Too bad there aren't cameras in federal courtrooms, I'd like to see this one, but....

"Baldwin’s lawsuit for damages initially lingered with little activity. It was dismissed in July, only to be reinstated in September at Baldwin’s request. Attorneys for Baldwin say they have approached state and county officials about the prospects for a settlement."

Maybe it won't actually get heard if they can reach some kind of settlement.

He needs to let this go. If it were me I would just be grateful that it is over. Stirring this up for the sake of her husband and child is insensitive.

 

[geevee]

I have been litigating cases for 25 years. I think the Judge did the prosecution a favor by pulling the plug when she did. There was more to come from the Defense attorney, and this stopped it.
I know folks don't like AB. He isn't my cup of tea either. But I don't think his actions should have ever been considered criminal. Negligent? Yes, and he settled those suits. But I don't think he should have been criminally charged.

I fully agree with all your points, and also that Morrissey, as a defense attorney has had to fight her entire career to get all evidence turned over in discovery, she knows better than most that, whether exculpatory or not, prosecution cannot hide evidence. And her continued defense of what happened just brings more shame upon herself.

 

[Weki]

There’s no question Morrissey royally screwed this up! And I say that as someone who likes her, irrationally, even after what she did and feeling like I would never want to work with her. I LOVED watching her in action.

I can’t explain it.

JMO

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1984083946418606234

 

[Betty P]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1984083946418606234

I’m not sure he has a case. I don’t recall anyone criticizing or blaming him. Most of the blame has been focused on the armorer and Baldwin. Interesting that he’s filing without the assistance of an attorney. It’s possible he couldn’t find one to take his case.

 

[minazoe]

Alec Baldwin did nothing wrong and nothing to deserve what happened to him. The prosecutor was an out of control train wreck who was in it for fame..trying to put on a grand performance, all the while covering and withholding crucial evidence. I don't care what you think about Alec or his politics. He did nothing wrong, he was doing his job. Hiring this dumbbell to handle the ammo was a huge mistake, ignoring all the chaos...a loose set? well maybe, but again this gun was prepared and handed to him on a professional movie set, it happens hundreds of times a day without mishap. mOO

 

[PrairieWind]

I’m not sure he has a case. I don’t recall anyone criticizing or blaming him. Most of the blame has been focused on the armorer and Baldwin. Interesting that he’s filing without the assistance of an attorney. It’s possible he couldn’t find one to take his case.

I agree, this is strange. First, since he isn't an attorney, I don't think he can sue on behalf of the LLC. So the court may put this on hold and tell him he has to retain counsel or have the suit on behalf of the company dismissed. But I am still trying figure out what the damages and causation are.

 

[Marantz4250b]

Alec Baldwin did nothing wrong and nothing to deserve what happened to him. The prosecutor was an out of control train wreck who was in it for fame..trying to put on a grand performance, all the while covering and withholding crucial evidence. I don't care what you think about Alec or his politics. He did nothing wrong, he was doing his job. Hiring this dumbbell to handle the ammo was a huge mistake, ignoring all the chaos...a loose set? well maybe, but again this gun was prepared and handed to him on a professional movie set, it happens hundreds of times a day without mishap. mOO

Without wanting to go through stuff that's been gone through at length on here already, I respectfully disagree.

Alec Baldwin was doing something unauthorised and dangerous and took zero responsibility for killing someone and almost killing someone else. He performed no checks nor did he witness any checks being done on the gun. Use of a firearm carries with it an acceptance that there is a certain element of risk and personal responsibility. If you do something that you aren't supposed to do then you take responsibility for your actions.

If you aren't prepared to front-up to your mistakes then don't use firearms professionally. This is especially true of someone like AB who is no stranger to the potential dangers of firearms and has been extremely vocal on such matters. It's nothing to do with his politics.

The prosecutor withheld evidence, that is true, but it was in no way "crucial" to anything. There was live ammunition present - it is irrelevant where it came from. The potential source of the live ammunition had no bearing on what happened.

 

[Marantz4250b]

I agree, this is strange. First, since he isn't an attorney, I don't think he can sue on behalf of the LLC. So the court may put this on hold and tell him he has to retain counsel or have the suit on behalf of the company dismissed. But I am still trying figure out what the damages and causation are.

Surely, if it's his company and he was control of it then he can initiate legal proceedings on its behalf?

I tend to agree that it will go nowhere, however.