Hank Croslin Jr Talks

[SeriouslySearching]

SS! I was not being sarcastic... I was seriously asking if he was a child molester! I know he has a long rap sheet and I was just wondering if that was included. I was not being disrespectful honestly.. I just assumed he probably had that conviction as well since so many think he did it.

Would he be a devoted enough brother to cover for his baby sister if she did do something to Haleigh? Or vice versa? This family has issues to say the least...

No, he has no record concerning sexual crimes that we are aware of in his adult files.

 

[Busylady]

From what I was told there was no non emergency call - nor no 911 call from Tyler the 9th or the 10th.

Do we know what time the non emergency call from 116 Tyler took place? I am wondering if we are now getting close to finding out what that call was all about. I would love to see those phone records. What time is RC said to have called Hankjr? Do we know if it is before the 116 Tyler street call? Because if....and that is a very big if.....we dare to believe that Hankjr did go over there and knock on the door, perhaps one of the Croslins called the non emergency line then.

Don't forget we heard that RC called the home phone and not Hank jr's cell. Perhaps he was eavesdropping and heard RC thought Misty was gone from the trailer and he mosied on over to get the gun back that Ronald sent Misty after in the culvert days before.....Perhaps Haleigh saw him? Something happened he hurt her....I don't just trying to make sense out of this....

 

[Busylady]

IMO Misty originally lied about her party weekend, then came clean and admitted she had been out doing drugs on the party weekend. I think alot of the other inconsistencies are the names of movies, the washing of clothes etc. I am not convinced the dirty clothes were in the dryer - I think they may have been in the washer. She may have put clothes in to start another load and realized out of detergent and didnt take the dirty clothes back out of the machine.

I find it very interesting that RC didnt call and ask Tommy to check on Misty - just called Tommys home looking for Misty. Why was it important for Tommy to place himself at the mobile home at 10 pm? Can Tommy account for all his time that night?

 

[Muffet]

Can they can come up with the truth about everything she has said to prove she lied about it all? I know there are "inconsistencies", but perhaps not outright lies from her about everything she said. There are things people consider as lies that I cannot find anything solid as evidence to say they are accurate in their assessment. Yes, she may have lied about not leaving...it is possible...but no one except Tommy has indicated it.

If she was with someone else then why isn't he/she talking? It isn't going to be a problem for them if they were not around Haleigh at the time she went missing so why not dish on Misty? Misty did not have a vehicle so if she was gone someone came to get her. Who?

I do believe she told the truth about the red truck and Tim found the truck which backed up her story. There are other things which appear to ring true in her version of events from the videos of the tests, imo.

I do think she told the truth about her cousin and her brother messing with her, but no one except them will ever know the real truth behind it. It is he said/she said. A jury/judge found the other person guilty and put him in jail which tells me she wasn't lying about him plus they must have other proof.

- We have LE's statements for months, including:

"She's failed to account for her actions that evening," Greenwood said. "There's lots of holes in her statements. The things she said she was doing we verified she wasn't doing."

http://www.ocala.com/article/200909...ts-in-search-for-missing-girl-prove-fruitless

- We have multiple failed polys, which LE says are no surprise to them.

- We have this and other things from Tim Miller (not from Art - the only thing relying on Art's credibility is his saying Tim Miller and a respected atty said Ron admitted to placing the rat in Hank's mailbox.):

Miller Says Haleigh's Father Doubts Wife's Story

He told First Coast News Monday "I don't think [Misty] has any information that will help find Haleigh."

Tim Miller of Texas Equusearch told First Coast News this week, "Ron may be saying that now."

Miller said Ronald Cummings told him, as well as Orlando-based attorney Mark NeJame, about two weeks ago that he doubted Misty's story about the night Haleigh disappeared.

Miller told First Coast News, "Ronald's statement right then was, 'The b**** has something to do with Haleigh's disappearance.'"

Misty Cummings has said she put Haleigh to bed that February night at 8:00 and then around 10:00 Misty herself went to sleep.

Miller said Ronald Cummings does not buy that story.

Miller told First Coast News, "He said, 'She had never been to sleep that night.' He said, 'The bed was still made.' He said, 'Nobody had been in the bed

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=144277&catid=3

I'm sorry, I have no clue about Hank, but between those things above, combined with my own problems with Misty's story, I simply cannot blow them off and convince myself that all the polys were wrong and Misty is being misunderstood or wrongly accused.

 

[Mysterylover]

I think it may be triangulated... Misty left the kids while they were asleep to go party... Ronald calls Hank Jr to look for Misty... Hank Jr goes to the MH... Goes in.. Finds the kids asleep and Misty gone... Takes Haleigh..

Ron may know Hank was involved.. but Hank has something on Ronald so they aren't talking.

Misty may know that Hank Jr was at the MH and knows she wasn't there..she may know that Hank took Haleigh but isn't talking.. she doesn't want Ronald to find out she wasn't there.
I think they all know and are covering for each other.
The heat is now on Hank and he is trying to pin it on someone else..

Just sayin'

lizzysf,
I suspect you are right and M. possibly left to baby- sit or party.
She didn't have a KEY to the MH so I suspect she put the concrete block against the door to get in later. Possibly giving the kids 'something' to make them sleep.
Ronald calls Hank Jr to look for Misty... Hank Jr goes to the MH... Goes in the door that is unlocked. Finds the kids asleep and Misty gone...
What vehicle did he drive to check on M.?
What vehicle did M. drive when going out that night? or how did she leave, IF she did?
Who drove the scratched Van that night?

 

[Busylady]

Your right, I deleted my post requesting info on which county. I think I figured it anyway and it is not the drugs listed can take to the RC thread if need be in the future.

This thread isn't about Ronald's record or comparing him to Tommy.

Ronald, imo, has been cleared and is NOT a suspect in Haleigh's disappearance no matter what his past shows about drugs.

Tommy just place himself at the scene. With Ronald clearly at work...this means that Tommy had opportunity and was at the mh around the time Haleigh could have gone missing. We know by Lindsey's statement to the media that LE was asking her only about the 4 hours in question which means the timeline has been significantly narrowed placing it between the hours of 11:00pm - 3:00am and they were asking specifically for HER timeline from Sunday until Tuesday...so in effect...Tommy's timeline for those days.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

lizzysf,
I suspect you are right and M. possibly left to baby- sit or party.
She didn't have a KEY to the MH so I suspect she put the concrete block against the door to get in later. Possibly giving the kids 'something' to make them sleep.
Ronald calls Hank Jr to look for Misty... Hank Jr goes to the MH... Goes in the door that is unlocked. Finds the kids asleep and Misty gone...
What vehicle did he drive to check on M.?
What vehicle did M. drive when going out that night? or how did she leave, IF she did?
Who drove the scratched Van that night?

The screen door had a little plastic lock which would not lock from the outside or the inside without doing it manually. There was no reason for Misty to put the cement block on the door if she was going to leave the mh at all. The deadbolt lock on the inside of the backdoor would also not lock if it was simply closed. It required a key from the outside and a manual turn of the bolt on the inside.

Evidently, Ronald did not ask Tommy to look for Misty. It is only Tommy's story. Ronald's attorney said Ronald called to see if Misty was at their house when he could not get her on the phone, but did not ask him to check on her.

Misty did not have a vehicle that night according to everything I have seen. Since the van was supposedly at Timmy's house, it is pretty obvious that Tommy would probably have been in the red truck that he sold right after Haleigh went missing.

If Misty had given the children something to sleep...then LE would have noticed Rj being drugged when they arrived and called an ambulance for him.

ETA: Thanks, Kool~

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Thanks...I fixed it and now you can delete my mistake.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

Thanks...I fixed it and now you can delete my mistake.

nah think I'll leave it and gloat for a spell. :woohoo:

 

[txsvicki]

Surely LE has checked phone records to see if Timmy got a call from Misty around that time. She had been fussing on the phone with Ron, cleaning, and washing with no detergent. How could she have gone to sleep so quickly and not heard someone knocking? There's no reason to be so evasive and inconsistent if she left the house. She could always say that she was upset and walked around the block a few times. It would be better than being suspected of murder. She's got to be covering for someone or herself related to the disappearance itself.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Not to my knowledge. I have never heard that name before.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Surely LE has checked phone records to see if Timmy got a call from Misty around that time. She had been fussing on the phone with Ron, cleaning, and washing with no detergent. How could she have gone to sleep so quickly and not heard someone knocking? There's no reason to be so evasive and inconsistent if she left the house. She could always say that she was upset and walked around the block a few times. It would be better than being suspected of murder. She's got to be covering for someone or herself related to the disappearance itself.

Or what if Tommy had slipped her something earlier so she was bit incoherent by the time he arrived later? She may have no idea what really took place after a certain time that evening. She would only know that she did not take any drugs to cause her to feel in that "dreamlike" state she mentioned to Tim.

 

[elle1919]

Show me where Law Enforcement ever used the term "cleared" and I'll be happy to believe it.

I've looked and looked, and all they ever said was that they were not considered suspects. LE says that all the time about people we know they suspect, so it's meaningless. And Ron's own lawyer said he wasn't cleared, fhs.

Sorry I missed your post earlier :

Search Moves to Mondex (watch video here)

Published: Saturday, September 19, 2009 1:49 AM EDT

Officers also have interviewed Ronald Cummings numerous times. Both he and Haleigh's mother, Crystal Sheffield, have been cleared of suspicion in the disappearance, authorities say.

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/arti...ews/news01.txt


Here they use the word cleared....

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Yes, that is what the Palatka Daily news reported and stated it came from the "authorities".

It has been my experience that the local newspaper usually has the best "in" with the local Sheriff's department.

 

[suspicious1]

I normally would not answer the door if I was in bed even if I was not yet asleep. But if the knocking continued and sounded urgent I would answer.

Also, if one of my relatives was concerned about me, they would be calling my name or saying who they were as they were knocking to get my attention. Of course, then I would answer.

Regards,

Montana

You are absolutely right! And as far as I am concerned Misty was NOT at the MH that night.

I would think that if Hank was knocking that hard that the neighbors would've probably remembered hearing the knocking. I've witnessed nieghbors banging on the door so loudly I thought someone was at my own door. just saying.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

You are absolutely right! And as far as I am concerned Misty was NOT at the MH that night.

I would think that if Hank was knocking that hard that the neighbors would've probably remembered hearing the knocking. I've witnessed nieghbors banging on the door so loudly I thought someone was at my own door. just saying.

So we should be willing to take the word of a guy sitting in jail for being a thief with a $50,000 bond?! I would say that Tommy didn't knock at all and he is trying to cover his @ss for being seen in his red truck at the mh.

 

[Montana]

She was either not home (which is my first choice) or she was hiding for some reason. And by hiding, I mean she did not want to talk to her brother because she had something to hide.

Suspicious, I agree with you. I had someone knock on my door for so long and so hard that I was convinced that it was either the fire department or the FBI. I was embarassed because I knew ALL of my neighbors could hear it. When I went to the door, it was some lame guy trying to hit on me. LOL!

 

[KOOL LOOK]

Where is the red truck? Did LE supposedly process it? I think LE dropped the ball here, especially with the testimony of the neighbor seeing a red truck, and the brother of Misty owns a red truck.

 

[WillenFan21]

So we should be willing to take the word of a guy sitting in jail for being a thief with a $50,000 bond?! I would say that Tommy didn't knock at all and he is trying to cover his @ss for being seen in his red truck at the mh.

Are you implying that Tommy did something to Haleigh? I'm just wondering b.c I don't see how that could be possible if Misty failed the Poly.

 

[Muffet]

Sorry I missed your post earlier :

Search Moves to Mondex (watch video here)

Published: Saturday, September 19, 2009 1:49 AM EDT

Officers also have interviewed Ronald Cummings numerous times. Both he and Haleigh's mother, Crystal Sheffield, have been cleared of suspicion in the disappearance, authorities say.

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/arti...ews/news01.txt


Here they use the word cleared....

Yes, that is what the Palatka Daily news reported and stated it came from the "authorities".

It has been my experience that the local newspaper usually has the best "in" with the local Sheriff's department.

And again, they have been saying the same thing since well before Ron's Lawyer admitted he has not been cleared.

Please do not accuse me of being hypocritical or even of not trusting what LE says when I am clearly and consistently saying I don't trust reporter's versions of what LE says.

When LE is seen or directly quoted as saying he is cleared, we can say he has been cleared. As I said today though, I'm sure his lawyer will be among the first to let us know.