Hank Jr moved to Putman County Jail

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  • #21
I do not understand why now seems appropriate for the move to Putnam. ToC's charges are all Putnam charges yet he was housed in St Johns the whole time. So why not just keep him there or, if a move to PC is appropriate, why didn't it happen a long time ago? He was in lockdown at St Johns and probably will be at Putnam as well, right? So he will be "safe" (and would have been "safe" all along) in Putnam.

Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part, but it's difficult for me to think something is not happening that necessitated this move--a move that would have been just as "appropriate" weeks or months ago, IMO.
 
  • #22
It was my understanding Ron's charges were in St. Johns, why was he housed in Putnam county? Seems strange to me
 
  • #23
It was my understanding Ron's charges were in St. Johns, why was he housed in Putnam county? Seems strange to me

rc doesn't like St.Johns....afterall St. John's has video....

It would be better for his lawyer if rc were at St. Johns since Shoemaker lives there but we know that ronnie gets what he wants. His family makes sure he gets the best that their money can buy. On another note, St. John's has stricter Judges.
 
  • #24
"according to the Putnam County Sheriff's Office, Sheriff Jeff Hardy determined it was an appropriate time to return Croslin to the Putnam County Jail to await his sentencing, which is set for July 6"

what about his ... "fear" - KWIM? fear for his life? :boohoo:

Has to make me wonder if TC has any last words for rc before he leaves...hmmm.
 
  • #25
IIRC the only St Johns charges were one for Misty and one for Donna. All others were Putnam charges.
 
  • #26
Tommy, through his lawyer, admitted to being in the trailer, & seeing a dead Haleigh. That's gonna be hard, to get past. I think he has either recanted, & given at the least, a failry logical reason, of why he lied, or he's snitching, or LE has him, labeled the murderer. By telling that story, he backed himself into a corner, & unless he tells a completely believable different story, I don't see any way out, for him. So, I think this move, might have something to do with the mess, his mouth got him into. I feel like we may hear something, this week. getting my hopes up, just to have them dashed, again? maybe. But his tales, & then Joe, not being arrested, are screamingly silent. LE is not gonna let him slide, after he, & only he, put himself in the thick of things.
 
  • #27
The problem with TomC being moved is we no longer will have the video/audio tapes to provide us with information, clues and whatnot. Moving him to Putnam Co was a smart move by PCSO to end the rumors and speculation, leaked information/evidence and provide more power for LE in their continuance of not providing the public with "any" information ... in fact, it is a sure fire way to let this turn into a cold case (I hope I am wrong).
 
  • #28
Tommy, through his lawyer, admitted to being in the trailer, & seeing a dead Haleigh. That's gonna be hard, to get past. I think he has either recanted, & given at the least, a failry logical reason, of why he lied, or he's snitching, or LE has him, labeled the murderer. By telling that story, he backed himself into a corner, & unless he tells a completely believable different story, I don't see any way out, for him. So, I think this move, might have something to do with the mess, his mouth got him into. I feel like we may hear something, this week. getting my hopes up, just to have them dashed, again? maybe. But his tales, & then Joe, not being arrested, are screamingly silent. LE is not gonna let him slide, after he, & only he, put himself in the thick of things.

Link please ... "seeing a dead Haleigh" (BBM) -
first I've heard of this :waitasec:
 
  • #29
The problem with TomC being moved is we no longer will have the video/audio tapes to provide us with information, clues and whatnot. Moving him to Putnam Co was a smart move by PCSO to end the rumors and speculation, leaked information/evidence and provide more power for LE in their continuance of not providing the public with "any" information ... in fact, it is a sure fire way to let this turn into a cold case (I hope I am wrong).

Putnam Co records phone calls and I bet visits too. All the calls released have been allowed by the detectives in hope of solving the case. They did not have to release a single one.
 
  • #30
Link please ... "seeing a dead Haleigh" (BBM) -
first I've heard of this :waitasec:
I believe he said he saw "it" in the van when Joe put the knife to his throat.
 
  • #31
Tommy, through his lawyer, admitted to being in the trailer, & seeing a dead Haleigh. That's gonna be hard, to get past. I think he has either recanted, & given at the least, a failry logical reason, of why he lied, or he's snitching, or LE has him, labeled the murderer. By telling that story, he backed himself into a corner, & unless he tells a completely believable different story, I don't see any way out, for him. So, I think this move, might have something to do with the mess, his mouth got him into. I feel like we may hear something, this week. getting my hopes up, just to have them dashed, again? maybe. But his tales, & then Joe, not being arrested, are screamingly silent. LE is not gonna let him slide, after he, & only he, put himself in the thick of things.


I was under the impression it was Jo who saw a deceased Haleigh in the bedroom of the trailer and went bezerk.....I know I heard that on NG...JMO
 
  • #32
First Tommy said he was not at the MH. Then he said he went to the MH and knocked on the door and no one was home. Later he said he lied just to get his bond lowered. Then he swore up and down that JO had nothing to do with Haleigh. Later he said he was at the MH and saw JO with Haleigh. Then he said Haleigh died at the MH. But later he said JO had Haleigh in the van. We heard that JO threatened Tommy with a gun at the MH. Then we heard it was with a knife to his throat when Tommy looked into the van. Then later Tommy said on tape to Hank that it was all just BS and he was just saying whatever was necessary to get out of jail. And finally, Tommy contacted his attorney and made his plea on the drug charge.

LE might believe Tommy was involved, or they might not. I doubt they are pleased with all his lies, but they can't charge him with anything to do with Haleigh just because he lied. Either LE has evidence for an arrest or they don't. Time will tell.
 
  • #33
IIRC the only St Johns charges were one for Misty and one for Donna. All others were Putnam charges.

I read that ron and misty were brought into St. Johns the night of the arrest. I thought, for some reason, that rc had a charge in St. Johns County and that his lawyer had the cases from St. Johns and Putnam combined.
 
  • #34
Does Tommy have a mediation this week with Lindsy about the divorce?
 
  • #35
Everyone was initially booked into Putnam except Donna. Her charge was in St Johns and that's where she was booked. Misty had one St Johns charge but I had not heard of any of the others having charges other than Putnam. It really doesn't matter, I suppose, because my understanding was that LE housed them the way they did to keep them separated. The one I could not understand was ToC going to St Johns when he had no charge there, unless it was to separate him from Hope (doubtful). However, when RC went back to Putnam it made sense to keep Tommy in St Johns.

Which makes me wonder why they have moved him now.

Likely it is because Tommy will be making numerous court appearances in Putnam County over the next week or two with all his charges plus the divorce and it's more cost-effective to just keep him in Putnam.
 
  • #36
Link please ... "seeing a dead Haleigh" (BBM) -
first I've heard of this :waitasec:
I'm no good with links, but I'll keep trying, but it's in the May 14,2010, Nancy Grace blog-CNN. I also heard James Werter, Tommy's attorney, say it, so it's not a misprint
 
  • #37
Does Tommy have a mediation this week with Lindsy about the divorce?

They have a Case Management Conference on June 29th.

06/02/2010 007.NOTICE OF CASE MGMT CONFERENCE 06/29/10 AT 01:30
 
  • #38
Would they release phonecalls after he was convicted anyway?
 
  • #39
Would they release phonecalls after he was convicted anyway?
IDK, but that would actually make more sense than before a conviction, IMO-what with being presumed innocent, and all.
 
  • #40
Would they release phonecalls after he was convicted anyway?

After a conviction, no.

While being held on other charges, awaiting trial/conviction for those charges, yes.

Since he's pled to everything, and just awaiting sentencing in the drug case, there's no reason for them to release anymore of his visits or telephone, and the law says they don't have to.

Somewhat OT, but as examples:

On this same token, we probably won't hear anymore from Donna Brock's jailhouse, since she's scheduled for sentencing and no longer going to trial, so the law says her tapes don't have to be released anymore.

Still waiting for tapes from Ronald and Misty, since they have yet to plea or be tried. :crazy:
 
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