Hannah Graham: Body Recovered, 18 Oct, 2014 **Awaiting Forensic Confirmation**

[ILikeToBendPages]

I keep asking myself this same question. Not saying he should have been raping women AT ALL, but why didn't he rape them, and leave them somewhere - ALIVE???? What makes a person so incredibly devoid of a soul that they can want to destroy another human, and in such a brutal way? It is unimaginable.

If you kidnap and rape someone and you don't want to be found out you kill your witness. Leaving them alive leads back to you.

 

[Heroine]

If you kidnap and rape someone and you don't want to be found out you kill your witness. Leaving them alive leads back to you.

He did leave 2 women alive that we know of at the colleges and each time he got in trouble, lost his football dream etc. He made sure that that wouldn't happen again. I have a feeling there are many more. JMO

 

[Heroine]

Thinking about it now though, I almost know they think it's HG and that JM did it. Remember them asking anyone who may have seen anyone who fit JM's description that night or anytime recently where the body was found to come forward during the PC? It wasn't Longo, but the other guy.

 

[Fence Sitter]

Wait a minute...hmmmm. Can someone verify where this photo is of the red car here? I recall about 2 weeks ago a photo was here on threads with discussion of someone carrying someone. The little white speck at about 2:30 in the photo... :gaah: I'm seeing things as that made me think of the photo of someone being carried that we were discussing 2 weeks ago here... Where was that photo from that we were discussing?

It was posted supposedly as a trail camera photo and taken down due to lack of being able to mention source. Later on there was a google earth pic suggesting possible search sites and if you zoom in you could see what was supposedly the teail camera pic. Ill see if i can find it for your interest.

 

[2Hope4]

Near the time that Hannah went missing, my piggy was attacked by a dog. He hid under a building, and within less than 24hrs, he was COVERED in maggots. Not doubt that a body could become a skeleton in 35 days IMO!!

I hope and pray that some DNA evidence is present, or at least that there is a very strong case against JLM! If even part of what we've seen thus far is true, this is one dangerous predator!

My daughter came home from college today, and the first thing she did was come to me to say Hannah had been found. She was so upset. Same age as dear Hannah was. Through Morgan, Hannah, Alexis, and so many more, I hope others learn from this, and remember a buddy system, remember that it doesn't matter how many others are around, if they are not WITH you, they aren't looking out for you, and could very well be a predator. Yes we SHOULD be able to walk around anywhere and be safe, but the truth of the matter is we can't. I'm not victim blaming. I'm only stating the facts. There is evil everywhere. You never know when it may strike, and the best you can do is be aware, be alert, keep that buddy system, phone someone if you feel the least bit unsafe, don't rely on text as it might not be seen, or might not be you sending that text. Don't ever be afraid to call your parents, a close friend, or the police! Doesn't matter the circumstances, if my child calls, I'm going to them.

All of this is so unfair. So uncalled for. So evil. Lives snuffed out in their prime. It'll never make sense.

 

[FindHG]

I don't know how to make sense of out of any of this. Good to know though that good people like you here, the community that rose around the Grahams to support them and the search, those who will probably keep looking for answers to find all the missing young women he may have killed, those who work so hard to bring this aberrant man to justice, they all give me hope. The shattering loss the Grahams must feel and other families like them must feel, I believe many people feel for them, and it may move people to do the right things to make this kind of aberrations more rare.

This song, as I posted a couple of weeks ago, inspired Elvis' Love Me Tender and it keeps playing in my head as I think of Hannah Graham
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4qdbXiUlq8

Peace WSers

 

[Fence Sitter]

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.8855915,-78.3582031,4123m/data=!3m1!1e3

This is it. If you zoom in you can see someone posted this google earth image as a hoax...it was removed.

 

[Soulmagent]

It was posted supposedly as a trail camera photo and taken down due to lack of being able to mention source. Later on there was a google earth pic suggesting possible search sites and if you zoom in you could see what was supposedly the teail camera pic. Ill see if i can find it for your interest.

You keep saying this and I keep telling you it was a google earth image.

I posted the image, you assumed it was a trail cam,I was asked if it was and I said it wasnt.

Also I never said anyone was being carried as I didnt believe it looked like that .

I have been a member here a long time , I dont go around starting rumors in cases or trying to mislead people. I turned the info over to the tip line as it was an area where I personaly had been and found items that where out of place.

It was not a hoax.
My Post about it is downstairs.

 

[MzOpinion8d]

i see that it's the house in question, but i don't understand how this could be an assisted living community. here in Louisiana, assisted living communities are HUGE apt. complex type residences. This is a little bitty house.

when googled, it says that it's open 24/7 - what in the world? :waitasec:

It could be a home where mentally challenged adults live with 1-2 adults who supervise them and assist with activities of daily living.

 

[Migmuu]

I don't understand the mentality at all either. I think there were other women, that JM pounced on, but with some of them, perhaps they were partially agreeable, or he felt they would not raise a fuss. Even if I could get it, I don't know why JM did this to Hannah. He had to know he was seen with her. He had to know that the mall had cameras. He had to know she would be missed. How on earth did he even think he would get away with this? COuld have raped her and then dropped her still drugged in some alley near the corner. When she'd come to, it wouldn't have been so clear what happened After all, she went off with him willingly. But thism this leaves no other explanation but that he took her off to an area he knows, and killed her. What other possible explanation? And he really thought he'd get off scott free on this? What scares me is that he may have in similar cases. With MH, no one saw him. Here, he knew he was seen. Very scary that he might have done others this way as well.

A lot of killers get cocky and start to feel like they're so intelligent that LE can never catch them. Israel Keyes, for example. Keyes is one of the few killers you can describe as ''brilliant''- he planned his crimes out so thoroughly and got away with killing dozens of people, and LE didn't even know there was a killer. He got caught because he killed too close to home and later got pulled over in his car with his last victim's credit card. Never underestimate the stupid things that otherwise intelligent people can/will do if their ego gets too inflated.

 

[otto]

Are you sure Morgan's mother said she was only a skeleton. , in her poem about getting Morgan's body back

Morgan was in a field in freezing temperatures towards the end of the three months that she was there (Oct 17-Jan 26). The average temperatures were colder than the temp. last month.

 

[gitana1]

If you want their locations one to the other, then (approximately) here: https://goo.gl/maps/9Mza6

Old Lynchburg Rd is farther S than Anchorage Farm from Charlottesville.

Thank you so much for that!

If you get a chance please listen to this, I think you will find it interesting.

http://insidecville.com/city/dr-jeffrey-fracher/

GUEST: Clinical Psychologist, Dr. Jeffrey Fracher.

TOPIC: Jeff discusses his four-plus decades working with violent sex offenders. “People need to understand that there are bad people out there, there are bad people who do these kinds of things. We need to do a better job with prevention, teaching our young people smarter decisions, smarter choices.”

ORIGINAL BROADCAST DATE: Monday, October 6, 2014.

He speaks about the progression of sex offenders.

Very interesting. Thanks so much. He talks about rejection and how some of the more progressed sex offenders may have experienced rejection earlier in the day or night, and then act out their anxiety, insecurity and rage and aggression on someone else later on.

If we track that night, the night Hannah was taken, you can possibly see that - JM is being inappropriate with a couple women (and a man) in the bar that night and eventually is told off and "rejected" for his behavior.

And later that night, he encounters Hannah...

What a horrendous "perfect" storm Hannah got caught up in.

 

[GhostGhost]

He did leave 2 women alive that we know of at the colleges and each time he got in trouble, lost his football dream etc. He made sure that that wouldn't happen again. I have a feeling there are many more. JMO

I can envision at least a couple of date rapes where he apologizes profusely after initial anger. Sound familiar?

MOO

 

[Soulmagent]

Thank you so much for that!



Very interesting. Thanks so much. He talks about rejection and how some of the more progressed sex offenders may have experienced rejection earlier in the day or night, and then act out their anxiety, insecurity and rage and aggression on someone else later on.

If we track that night, the night Hannah was taken, you can possibly see that - JM is being inappropriate with a couple women (and a man) in the bar that night and eventually is told off and "rejected" for his behavior.

And later that night, he encounters Hannah...

What a horrendous "perfect" storm Hannah got caught up in.

I watched that video the first 50 times I watched it thinking about fate verses free will on a spiritual level.

It was a normal weekend for Hannah ,she was were she was supposed to be ,and then she is not. She is just gone . Did fate direct her there?
I decided evil can effect your fate and overtake your free will and guide you into it clutches. The devil is real.

 

[Fence Sitter]

You keep saying this and I keep telling you it was a google earth image.

I posted the image, you assumed it was a trail cam,I was asked if it was and I said it wasnt.

Also I never said anyone was being carried as I didnt believe it looked like that .

I have been a member here a long time , I dont go around starting rumors in cases or trying to mislead people. I turned the info over to the tip line as it was an area where I personaly had been and found items that where out of place.

It was not a hoax.
My Post about it is downstairs.

Sorry Soulmagent i never said it was a trailcam image when it first showed. In fact i dont think i even commented on it at all when it first showed. I merely remember when it was posted and what everyone was saying about it. I was just letting the person who asked, know what i had seen about it all because they had obviously missed it. Not trying to discredit anyone, i was just trying to set it straight it was a google earth image and not a trail cam image as some are still saying.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I didn't see this posted yet. Sorry if it was and I overlooked it.




Hannah Graham searcher says ‘God wanted’ them to find what they found

"It was behind a vacant home, in a dried-up creek bed, Terry said he found a skull and bones, along with a pair of tight, dark-colored pants."

Link: http://wtvr.com/2014/10/18/searcher...says-god-wanted-them-to-find-what-they-found/

 

[RR0004]

I read somewhere on WS that Hannah's father went to the property today. Where did that info come from?

It's been a long day so I can't say who exactly said it, but yes, it was reported that he was.

 

[lindamichelle1]

OMG. The first day I dont check this thread they find a body! I literally gasped in shock when I saw the thread title. I cant believe they found her. I believe it is her, why would they stop all the searches for her if they arent 99% sure its her. Im guessing they found her clothes or something that is hers that makes them think its her. I would love for it not to be just so there is still hope she is alive, but I have a feeling this is it. Now they just have to get this LJ freak behind bars for the rest of his life!

 

[Kale]

I wonder if Hannah's dad was asked to come and identify personal items? I wouldn't be surprised, though, if he heard what was going on and just had to go down there. He's been looking for his daughter. Even if she's a pile of bones in the ground now, he'd want to go running to her as soon as he knew where she was. Can't even imagine what's going through his mind right now =(

 

[Soulmagent]

UPDATE: "Human Remains" Found in Charlottesville, May or May Not Be Hannah Graham

http://www.wset.com/story/26821823/breaking-human-remains-found-in-charlottesville-may-or-may-not-be-hannah-graham