Harry Potter News: Dumbledore is Gay. Outted by JK Rowling!

[southcitymom]

Jen, my first reaction was that if she wanted Dumbledore to be gay, she should have mentioned it in the books. But since then I must admit I'm not sure how she would have done so, at least not more frankly than the hints she gives in Book 7.

It would hardly be in character for Dumbledore to have discussed his ancient heartache with Harry. When Harry does learn of his mentor's past, it's with an eye toward how that info can be useful. The "gay" part of it isn't.

In fact, Harry and his friends learn of Dumbledore's great "friendship" and how that relationship ended without assuming the bond was "gay." This is pretty much how the world operates: lots of us aren't "gay" to the world unless we announce the fact or get caught cruising a cop in a restroom at the Minneapolis airport.

Agree 100%. His being gay doesn't add a thing to the story without being contrived, but his doomed obsessive relationship does!

 

[GlitchWizard]

I personally thought about 2/3 of the Boy students showed homosexual tendencies.

2/3 of the boys in my daughter's school show homosexual tendencies nowdays. They call it "emo" and it's a fad now.

My "gaydar" was ringing so loudly with Drago Malfoy that I teased my kid for thinking he was cute. Snape, too. No doubt.

(And don't get me even STARTED on the Hobbit.)

 

[Nova]

I think you guys are missing one important point here tho. JK waited until the books were signed and sold, the movies were out and sold, and the millions plus money was safely tucked away before she casually tossed this out there. The series had been put to bed. Had she come out and said or even openly hinted in the book that he was gay before...she would have found that to be literary suicide on her part. This way, she sits back and laughs all the while knowing she had the very last word on her Harry Potter Series. I think it was brilliant to out him at this point. Bravo!

What can people do who are flipping out about it now? Take their books/movies/toys back and demand a refund?! LMAO

The problem with your theory is that the last Harry Potter book is still on the bestseller lists, with many more copies to be sold. Rowling has already announced another Potter book, which is to be an encyclopedia of the Potter saga or something like that. And there are still 2 or 3 more movies to come out, which will make Ms. Rowling umpteen millions.

If she were concerned about sales, she would have waited another 10 years.

I don't think she thought Dumbledore being gay was that big a deal. Time will tell, but I doubt most readers will care that much either.

 

[Nova]

Huh????? I personally never saw *any* homosexual "tendencies". I think it is way cool that if there was a homosexual character in Rowlings (I apologize if I spelled her name wrong) books, it was not apparent. And frankly, that is what I love. People *being* people, regardless of sexual orientation. As it should be....

With all due respect, Data, if we're talking about real "people," gays have an political obligation to make their identity known. To fail to do so is communal suicide, as we saw more than once in the past century when criminal persecution or the AIDS plague was ignored because most gay people were "invisible." When the majority is allowed to think they don't know any gay people, then the majority isn't moved to action when gay people are threatened.

But maybe you just meant it would be nice to have a world where sexuality isn't an issue. If so, I agree that would be nice. In the meantime, however, gays can't afford to just be "people."

(This has nothing to do with Dumbledore, of course, who lives in an imaginary world.)

 

[SeriouslySearching]

The problem with your theory is that the last Harry Potter book is still on the bestseller lists, with many more copies to be sold. Rowling has already announced another Potter book, which is to be an encyclopedia of the Potter saga or something like that. And there are still 2 or 3 more movies to come out, which will make Ms. Rowling umpteen millions.

If she were concerned about sales, she would have waited another 10 years.

I don't think she thought Dumbledore being gay was that big a deal. Time will tell, but I doubt most readers will care that much either.

Yes, I suppose you are right. However...she has made enough cash off this already...not to mention future royalties...to survive a drop in sales now. Maybe sales will increase because people will want to comb the books themselves for ammo to protest her statement, too. LOL

 

[IrishMist]

Yes, I suppose you are right. However...she has made enough cash off this already...not to mention future royalties...to survive a drop in sales now. Maybe sales will increase because people will want to comb the books themselves for ammo to protest her statement, too. LOL

Nah. Seems to me that the people that are against her books don't even bother to read them! :doh:

 

[IrishMist]

With all due respect, Data, if we're talking about real "people," gays have an political obligation to make their identity known. To fail to do so is communal suicide, as we saw more than once in the past century when criminal persecution or the AIDS plague was ignored because most gay people were "invisible." When the majority is allowed to think they don't know any gay people, then the majority isn't moved to action when gay people are threatened.

But maybe you just meant it would be nice to have a world where sexuality isn't an issue. If so, I agree that would be nice. In the meantime, however, gays can't afford to just be "people."

(This has nothing to do with Dumbledore, of course, who lives in an imaginary world.)

This is how I took Data's post...

And, it would be nice, wouldn't it? Certainly is the way is should be, IMO.

 

[Nova]

This is how I took Data's post...

And, it would be nice, wouldn't it? Certainly is the way is should be, IMO.

It would certainly be safer for the those who would otherwise be victims of hate crimes.

But wouldn't it be duller, too? I say we need more young wizards in "flamboyant cut suit(s) of plum velvet"!

 

[IrishMist]

It would certainly be safer for the those who would otherwise be victims of hate crimes.

But wouldn't it be duller, too? I say we need more young wizards in "flamboyant cut suit(s) of plum velvet"!

Just young wizards?? I think the whole country would be better off if suits of plum velvet came into style! I would think that it would be very difficult to be in a bad mood while wearing a suit of plum velvet...

With a matching hat.

 

[Nova]

Just young wizards?? I think the whole country would be better off if suits of plum velvet came into style! I would think that it would be very difficult to be in a bad mood while wearing a suit of plum velvet...

With a matching hat.

After a certain age, everybody has to wear a dress. Surely Dumbledore taught us that much!

 

[southcitymom]

After a certain age, everybody has to wear a dress. Surely Dumbledore taught us that much!

He likes a "healthy breeze around this privates" like Archie - that old Wizard at the Quidditch World Cup who was wearing a ladies nightgown in an effort to look like a muggle.

 

[southcitymom]

2/3 of the boys in my daughter's school show homosexual tendencies nowdays. They call it "emo" and it's a fad now.

My "gaydar" was ringing so loudly with Drago Malfoy that I teased my kid for thinking he was cute. Snape, too. No doubt.

(And don't get me even STARTED on the Hobbit.)

Me too Glitch....but Malfoy is way too repressed to come out - he will stay in the closet forever....though there's some pretty fantastic fan fiction that has him and Harry hooking up!

And Voldemort - don't even get me started!

 

[Nova]

Me too Glitch....but Malfoy is way too repressed to come out - he will stay in the closet forever....though there's some pretty fantastic fan fiction that has him and Harry hooking up!

And Voldemort - don't even get me started!

As long as Voldemort looks like Ralph Fiennes, he can be gay.

But, seriously, your knowledge of the series is getting embarrassing, SCM. Do you need an intervention?

 

[southcitymom]

As long as Voldemort looks like Ralph Fiennes, he can be gay.

But, seriously, your knowledge of the series is getting embarrassing, SCM. Do you need an intervention?

And how! Yet - relatively speaking - Harry Potter is safer than some of my past obsessions...for that, we can all be grateful!! DH thinks I'm an absolute loon...too bad for him that he's so besotted with me he has no choice but to put up with my lunacy....

 

[southcitymom]

As long as Voldemort looks like Ralph Fiennes, he can be gay.

But, seriously, your knowledge of the series is getting embarrassing, SCM. Do you need an intervention?

Yummy!

 

[OrdinaryLife]

But maybe you just meant it would be nice to have a world where sexuality isn't an issue. If so, I agree that would be nice. In the meantime, however, gays can't afford to just be "people."

(This has nothing to do with Dumbledore, of course, who lives in an imaginary world.)

Nova, this is exactly what I mean. I apologize if my post come across as being so simple as I do not intend them to be. I have gay family members and friends. It tears me apart that they cannot simply live life without fear of reprisal. Even within our own family dynamics. Some know, most do not. Not because they are ashamed of being gay, but due to small minded judgments.

When I have posted about Dumbledore being gay, I truly meant why should we care? Yes, he is imaginary. But my thought was did it matter in all the other books? Of course not because he was a man of thought, wisdom, and compassion. Being outed should change that respect many readers had for him? I think not.

I have always looked at the person before me. I do not nor ever have, cared what orientation (actually, that disturbs me to even type because it's a non issue for me) any person is. It has always, always been about their heart.

I apologize, again, if I've come across badly. I simply did not want to insult anyone and tried to keep it waaaay simple. When I state "being people", I mean every person equal to another. I apologize if it came across so badly.

Wishing you well,
Data

 

[OrdinaryLife]

This is how I took Data's post...

And, it would be nice, wouldn't it? Certainly is the way is should be, IMO.

Thank you, Irishmist. That is truly what I meant. Thank you. I was afraid I had made a simpleton insult.

Thank you for "hearing" what I meant in so few words.

 

[southcitymom]

Thank you, Irishmist. That is truly what I meant. Thank you. I was afraid I had made a simpleton insult.

Thank you for "hearing" what I meant in so few words.

Data - I didn't think you meant to offend and took your post in the same vein as Irish! You are surely no simpleton!

 

[Nova]

Nova, this is exactly what I mean. I apologize if my post come across as being so simple as I do not intend them to be. I have gay family members and friends. It tears me apart that they cannot simply live life without fear of reprisal. Even within our own family dynamics. Some know, most do not. Not because they are ashamed of being gay, but due to small minded judgments.

When I have posted about Dumbledore being gay, I truly meant why should we care? Yes, he is imaginary. But my thought was did it matter in all the other books? Of course not because he was a man of thought, wisdom, and compassion. Being outed should change that respect many readers had for him? I think not.

I have always looked at the person before me. I do not nor ever have, cared what orientation (actually, that disturbs me to even type because it's a non issue for me) any person is. It has always, always been about their heart.

I apologize, again, if I've come across badly. I simply did not want to insult anyone and tried to keep it waaaay simple. When I state "being people", I mean every person equal to another. I apologize if it came across so badly.

Wishing you well,
Data

If anyone needs to apologize, it is I. I prefaced my response with the tricky phrase, "With all due respect." I know that means "Listen up, you idiot!" in some posts and I should have been clearer. I meant it literally: I know you from your posts and I greatly respect your ideas. I didn't for a moment think you were being offensive or unkind. So I am sorry if I gave you that impression.

When I was young and foolish, I used to think that we gay people would be better off if we did less to call attention to ourselves. But subsequent events taught me that "invisibility" just makes us more convenient scapegoats. (And there's always somebody who needs a scapegoat.)

That isn't what you meant, however, and I am very sorry I made you feel you had done anything wrong.

 

[IrishMist]

He likes a "healthy breeze around this privates" like Archie - that old Wizard at the Quidditch World Cup who was wearing a ladies nightgown in an effort to look like a muggle.

"A healthy breeze around the privates" is sorely under-rated, IMO.