Has anyone brought in a Profiler or...

[one_hooah_wife]

TY! That is fascinating! I wonder if anyone has searched there or if those areas have been points of interest at all??

I posted the link and a brief explanation on the pings thread ... because the people working on that really have the pings and search information down ... but no one responded

 

[cacnotcam]

I posted the link and a brief explanation on the pings thread ... because the people working on that really have the pings and search information down ... but no one responded

I din't even see it in the pings thread. You mean the Pings thread #3? Or a different one?

 

[one_hooah_wife]

I din't even see it in the pings thread. You mean the Pings thread #3? Or a different one?

Pings #2 thread ... page 40-something.

I just did a search for posts with "Narcoossee RD" in them and found a lot of discussion on that area and it appears to be an area that TES couldn't complete their searches in before because of water.

 

[txmama]

Something happened to me many years ago where a profiler was brought into the case. We already knew exactly who had done what but needed more information. The Profiler helped tremendously to determine what level of threat this person was to me (extreme) and helped by telling me what to do to avoid this person finding me and harming me. (I really don't want to give too many details or re-live this so that's why I'm being vague). Anyway, I don't think a Profiler would help much in this case. We already know, basically, what KC did and she is behind bars already so her 'next move' is closely monitored. A think a Medium/pyschic would be fascinating.

 

[MiraclesHappen]

I posted the link and a brief explanation on the pings thread ... because the people working on that really have the pings and search information down ... but no one responded

I did not see it when I was reading before. Thank you. Better late.:smoochiesmilie:

 

[shadow of my mind]

I'm sorry, I thought that you just had to click the map to link to the larger map ... ... anyway here is that link.


http://www.drmauricegodwin.com/Caylee Anthony Geo Profile.htm

This is interesting. As far as the cell ping thread it was moved just about the same time you posted that. I was looking at it and when I came back to the thread it had changed. I was like Duh... Where did it go.

I have been looking at Narcoossee Rd for weeks now. It is a road that has no tolls on it, it appears to be useful to cut from one end of Orlando to another and intersects with so many other cross roads. I wish I knew how to overlay that map onto a 'working' google map so I could move around and still be withing the circle area.

Thanks for sharing that.

 

[gigi331]

They only use profilers when they don't know who the killer is, and want something to work from.

Maybe a psychic or medium (if a genuine one could be found) would be better.

Yeah, I guess I didn't think about the fact that they usually only use profilers when they don't have a suspect. However, I think a profiler could shed some light on the thought processes of criminals and how and why they behave in certain ways. Also, I've been pretty impressed with the psychics or mediums on the Tru TV series "Haunting Evidence"

 

[gigi331]

http://www.trutv.com/shows/haunting_evidence/

 

[Pink Panther]

I'm sure that an FBI profiler has been brought in. There have been a couple of comments by Sheriff Bealy about how they (LE) have never encountered such a tough situation before and I believe that this comes from FBI info. This interests me a lot because I really believe that the pathologies here are extremely complex. KC is obviously a sociopath but I think that CA is not only a sociopath but also insane!

MOO

 

[elfie]

There was a profiler who had given her analysis on the case. She used things Casey had said and done to come up with that analysis. I do put a lot of weight on this type of thing. Profilers are fully trained to look for certain things and try interpret what it all means.

As for the psychic, well, they had one lady who claimed to have received a message from Caylee. There were also some psychics in Florida searching with Cadaver dogs early on. I think they got into some legal troubles while there, though.

I put NO weight on psychics, but profilers are an entirely different story. I can concur with the others, Dayle Hinman is pretty awesome.

For the record, I don't think LE brought in either one. If they did, they certainly have not released that information. I do think they asked the psychic who claimed to receive the message directly from Caylee for that information, though. Hey, I guess you just never know. It's just a guess on my part, but I don't think it turned out to be anything.

I'd like to know how psychics get their information--is it a normally a case of investigation + intuition? I've never seen a documentary of a psychic during a work in progress; only in retrospect where hindsight is 20/20. Wouldn't they all be the richest people in the world by playing lotteries?

I read a paper online that tested subjects for psychic ability using changing images and galvanic skin response. The claim was that the psychics were able to sense the disturbing images before the image appeared and were calm prior to the neutral images. I don't find that to be conclusive scientific evidence. I think a set up using something similar to a polygraph would gauge more of a variety of responses. I still don't think one could call the test scientifically conclusive. Technology does exist that can determine if a person is familiar or unfamiliar with an imaged place, item, person, etc. using MRI like imaging of the brain.

Profilers, on the other hand, have an uncanny ability to determine nuances and can be a valuable asset to cases.

 

[MsMacGyver]

I watch alot of Forensic Science. It just happened last week there were two shows on with two different physics.
Their names are Nancy Orlen Weber and Rosemarie Kerr.
You can Google them as they both have websites. If no one else is interested I will do some research on their websites tomorrow. I had a doctors appt today and still have a feeding tube in so I'm going to crash in bed and watch NG...:bedtime:

 

[Brini]

I'd like to know how psychics get their information--is it a normally a case of investigation + intuition? I've never seen a documentary of a psychic during a work in progress; only in retrospect where hindsight is 20/20. Wouldn't they all be the richest people in the world by playing lotteries?

I read a paper online that tested subjects for psychic ability using changing images and galvanic skin response. The claim was that the psychics were able to sense the disturbing images before the image appeared and were calm prior to the neutral images. I don't find that to be conclusive scientific evidence. I think a set up using something similar to a polygraph would gauge more of a variety of responses. I still don't think one could call the test scientifically conclusive. Technology does exist that can determine if a person is familiar or unfamiliar with an imaged place, item, person, etc. using MRI like imaging of the brain.

Profilers, on the other hand, have an uncanny ability to determine nuances and can be a valuable asset to cases.

Back in college, I had a friend who was a REAL psychic. He was not in the business, though.

They say it's a matter of "extra bandwidth" in the right brain That also say that some people can acquire it by doing yoga meditation.

The was a GREAT contest for psychic on TV, a few months back. They were given VERY tough tests, IMHO.

The think is, NONE of them were good at reading everything. They seemed to be stellar at just one kind of task.

Two of them were great crime scene readers.

One of the tasks was eight men in eight cells. They had to pick out the one criminal, and make corrrect statements ag=bout him-- like what he had done, and why.

The problem is that for every REAL psychic, there are dozens of phoneys.

Then, there was this poor nurse. She had ONE accidentl forensic psychic experience, and it got her (temporarily) jailed.

She was driving, and she saw images of a dead victim below the freeway. She took LE to it, and they slapped her in the slammer.

 

[TxLady2]

I think a good psychologist would be more helpful than a profiler. Profilers are used to determine who the killer is... specifically used in serial killings. Most murderers leave a "mark"... something that is present in each murder. I don't think a profiler would help in Casey's case because they already know she did it. All they need is the proof. A psychologist who actually talks to her might be able to say WHY she did it.

 

[txsvicki]

Something happened to me many years ago where a profiler was brought into the case. We already knew exactly who had done what but needed more information. The Profiler helped tremendously to determine what level of threat this person was to me (extreme) and helped by telling me what to do to avoid this person finding me and harming me. (I really don't want to give too many details or re-live this so that's why I'm being vague). Anyway, I don't think a Profiler would help much in this case. We already know, basically, what KC did and she is behind bars already so her 'next move' is closely monitored. A think a Medium/pyschic would be fascinating.

From reading Pat Brown's site, I believe she does this type of consulting work. This thread kind of makes me wonder why the family hasn't called in someone like Pat Brown to help them figure out who took Caylee (according to them).

 

[nancy botwin]

I was wondering if anyone brought in a profiler or perhaps a medium...I know alot of people do not believe in the ability of a medium . I would like to see what they would have to say

WS users shadowraiths and Knot4u2no posted some really interesting information in some older threads, re: criminal profiling:
BRACE Analysis of Casey Anthony , profiled by Russell L. Smith

Interpersonal Guidelines Based on BRACE Character Profile

From reading Pat Brown's site, I believe she does this type of consulting work. This thread kind of makes me wonder why the family hasn't called in someone like Pat Brown to help them figure out who took Caylee (according to them).

I've heard Pat Brown interviewed several times re: this case and I don't think the Anthony family would enjoy her opinions I do, though. I know she is in some Scared Monkeys Radio podcasts-- I'll look for the links later after I watch Nancy Grace, in case you're interested.

 

[nancy botwin]

From reading Pat Brown's site, I believe she does this type of consulting work. This thread kind of makes me wonder why the family hasn't called in someone like Pat Brown to help them figure out who took Caylee (according to them).

I found a few links of Pat Brown discussing Casey Anthony--
10-10 Scared Monkeys Radio

I remember hearing her discuss Caylee's case on a few Scared Monkeys broadcasts, but I can't remember the other dates specifically-- I think she discussed Casey in the August 6 broadcast, but here's a list of her archived appearances:
http://scaredmonkeysradio.com/category/guests/pat-brown/

And Pat Brown was on the Today Show after the chloroform evidence was released.

I remember hearing her provide a relatively long and interesting analysis, but I can't remember the specific program right now. But I thought I'd post the links in case you or anyone else is interested.

 

[JBean]

This is an interesting read after the fact

 

[JBean]

This thread is a good read because it discusses the location she was found.

 

[Salem]

I agree JBean. I liked the Today show link.

Salem

 

[BeanE]

Criminal Profiler Pat Brown Discusses the Casey Anthony Case

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/criminal-prof-2.html

Investigation Discovery contacted top criminal profiler Pat Brown today and asked her to share her thoughts on how yesterday's discovery of child skeletal remains will affect Casey Anthony's cooperation in the case, if those remains are identified as that of Anthony's missing two-year-old daughter, Caylee.


Dr. Deborah Schurman-Kauflin Weighs in on Casey Anthony

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/12/dr-deborah-schu.html

Criminal profiler Dr. Deborah Schurman-Kauflin has offered her own opinion on what might happen next.