Heart Shaped Sticker And Duct Tape #3

[Rumpole]

If there is a way to calculate the value of falsehood squared, then listening to GR and JB agree on something would be it.

ANGER!

In the first place JB, in his arrogant dopey style was denying what has been released! Ahesive on the Duct tape in the shape of a heart.

But more importantly what in heavens name is he hoping to do?

He is implying that no heart sticker on the tape makes it just the NORMAL way duct tape is found on a dead infant?

 

[fortytwo]

ANGER!

In the first place JB, in his arrogant dopey style was denying what has been released! Ahesive on the Duct tape in the shape of a heart.

But more importantly what in heavens name is he hoping to do?

He is implying that no heart sticker on the tape makes it just the NORMAL way duct tape is found on a dead infant?

I was particularly impressed with the way he accused OCSO of violating attorney-client privilege. I'm sure that will win him plenty of friends.

He seems to be leaving a trail of irate LE behind him wherever he goes. I wouldn't want to be his driver.

 

[costalpilot]

i'd like to think the sticker is the last nail in KC's coffin.

but, probably just her ticket to the big house for life

no parole


no more boys


till a fello inmate renders final justice.

 

[Hot Dogs]

The exterior non-sticky side of the duct tape at the front of the skull had worn away. If the heart sticker had been placed there (say at the mouth area) then the sticker residue would have worn away too. Maybe there was still some remaining exterior tape coating on the sides of the skull. This may have been where the heart sticker was placed.

But if the sticker was never recovered from the site, nobody can know if it was still on the duct tape when Caylee was placed in the woods.

 

[Rumpole]

The exterior non-sticky side of the duct tape at the front of the skull had worn away. If the heart sticker had been placed there (say at the mouth area) then the sticker residue would have worn away too. Maybe there was still some remaining exterior tape coating on the sides of the skull. This may have been where the heart sticker was placed.

But if the sticker was never recovered from the site, nobody can know if it was still on the duct tape when Caylee was placed in the woods.

Do you think that could be part of KC's defense then?

She did put duct tape around a childs mouth, but only in the "normal way" with no sticker?
I think that was the point JB was trying to make on GR

 

[magic-cat]

Do you think that could be part of KC's defense then?

She did put duct tape around a childs mouth, but only in the "normal way" with no sticker?
I think that was the point JB was trying to make on GR

Hi Hercule! Man, that would be so fitting in this case, if JB thought it made his client look BETTER to indicate that she put the duct tape on her babies mouth in the "normal" way and not in the abnormal way which would include stickers...It makes her appear so much better that way, huh?

 

[magic-cat]

Ahh I see...

Is it possible that LE would keep an item off of list of items found?

(still learning about LE procedures!)

It would seem to me that the wording that they used as to what WAS included in the bags, but NOT LIMITED TO those items was the flag that some things were not listed in THAT report, but perhaps on another report such as where-ever the skull was listed. I did not see the skull listed in ANY lists except as having been FOUND...did anyone else see it in the "lists" of the bones? I sure didn't...but maybe I missed it...

 

[Rumpole]

Hi Hercule! Man, that would be so fitting in this case, if JB thought it made his client look BETTER to indicate that she put the duct tape on her babies mouth in the "normal" way and not in the abnormal way which would include stickers...It makes her appear so much better that way, huh?

I nearly burst a blood vessel watching GR and JB.

And JB there for general legal commentary! Give me a break! Wonder if that means he is a paid Fox contributor?
I'd like to see more of Kimberly, and no GR.

 

[butwhatif?]

Gosh, it took me a while, but I finally figured it out.

The scrapbooking page with the heart is significant because the sticker that was found on cardboard at Suburban appears to be from the same set of pages, not stickers....since each sb'ing page is supposed to be uniquely decorated. It looks to me like the piece found at the CS has the same grid-like pattern.

And the sticky residue on the duct tape must match the heart stickers from the other sticker sheets that were photographed.
So does this mean kc may have been scrapbooking at the time Caylee was killed? Or Caylee got into the scrapbooking that KC had spent so much putting together, and it set KC off....BIG TIME?
Firms up my opinion that Caylee was killed in her own home, and in a very sick kinda way explains why the sticker was placed on the tape around caylees mouth.
Kinda like "You want my stickers, brat!Well here's a sticker for you! it's gonna be the last one you ever get!"
Now I feel sick. uke:
JMO

 

[butwhatif?]

It would seem to me that the wording that they used as to what WAS included in the bags, but NOT LIMITED TO those items was the flag that some things were not listed in THAT report, but perhaps on another report such as where-ever the skull was listed. I did not see the skull listed in ANY lists except as having been FOUND...did anyone else see it in the "lists" of the bones? I sure didn't...but maybe I missed it...

Well we must have both missed it, and I double checked the docs today. That same sentence stood out to me too. What else was inside that bag? The million dollar question.

rayer: Pls, pls pls let there be another doc dump this week and let it answer our question. Amen rayer:

 

[Rumpole]

I think perhaps LE have all they need in regards to Heart Stickers.

Two examples of heart stickers = KC trade mark doubled.

They have the most likely sticker sheet that was the actual source of the sticker on the duct tape. If there is any chance of chemically matching the adhesive residue on the duct tape with anything, they have the sticker source.

 

[christee]

Well we must have both missed it, and I double checked the docs today. That same sentence stood out to me too. What else was inside that bag? The million dollar question.

rayer: Pls, pls pls let there be another doc dump this week and let it answer our question. Amen rayer:

"Several items were found inside the bags including but not limited to the following..." -from Det. YM's Supplemental Report of Witness List pg 4.

From pg 8 of same report:
"FBI analyst Karen C. gave me an update on the duct tape recovered form the body that was sent to the FBI lab in Quantico. While processing the duct tape the latent print unit noticed residue in the perfect shape of a heart. The heart was not hand drawn and residue appeared to be consistent with the adhesive side of a heart shaped sticker. It appears that the sticker was put on the duct tape intentionally. In the search area, investigators located a small heart shaped sticker similiar in size to the residue found on the duct tape".

Has anyone seen a photo of a second sticker?

 

[magic-cat]

"Several items were found inside the bags including but not limited to the following..." -from Det. YM's Supplemental Report of Witness List pg 4.

From pg 8 of same report:
"FBI analyst KC gave me an update on the duct tape recovered form the body that was sent to the FBI lab in Quantico. While processing the duct tape the latent print unit noticed residue in the perfect shape of a heart. The heart was not hand drawn and residue appeared to be consistent with the adhesive side of a heart shaped sticker. It appears that the sticker was put on the duct tape intentionally. In the search area, investigators located a small heart shaped sticker similiar in size to the residue found on the duct tape".

Has anyone seen a photo of a second sticker?

Thanks for that-now I DO recall having read that sentence but in all THIS I guess I somehow forgot about it until you quoted it and I read it again.

 

[Rumpole]

"Several items were found inside the bags including but not limited to the following..." -from Det. YM's Supplemental Report of Witness List pg 4.

From pg 8 of same report:
"FBI analyst KC gave me an update on the duct tape recovered form the body that was sent to the FBI lab in Quantico. While processing the duct tape the latent print unit noticed residue in the perfect shape of a heart. The heart was not hand drawn and residue appeared to be consistent with the adhesive side of a heart shaped sticker. It appears that the sticker was put on the duct tape intentionally. In the search area, investigators located a small heart shaped sticker similiar in size to the residue found on the duct tape".

Has anyone seen a photo of a second sticker?

They may not have found the "Second Sticker" at the remains site.

I do not think they did.

 

[Rumpole]

LE don't "Need" the second sticker.

They have adhesive residue on the duct tape and they have very likely sources to compare that to from the A home.

 

[fortytwo]

They may not have found the "Second Sticker" at the remains site.

I do not think they did.

(bold above by me)

Uh Oh.

What delicious irony. First there is confusion because of a Second Knife that didn't exist, and now confusion is building about a Second Sticker that probably did.

I love it.

 

[Rumpole]

(bold above by me)

Uh Oh.

What delicious irony. First there is confusion because of a Second Knife that didn't exist, and now confusion is building about a Second Sticker that probably did.

I love it.

All we need now is some suggestion that KC gave birth to twins!

 

[magic-cat]

All we need now is some suggestion that KC gave birth to twins!

Maybe it was twins she miscarried. :crazy:

 

[butwhatif?]

"Several items were found inside the bags including but not limited to the following..." -from Det. YM's Supplemental Report of Witness List pg 4.

From pg 8 of same report:
"FBI analyst KC gave me an update on the duct tape recovered form the body that was sent to the FBI lab in Quantico. While processing the duct tape the latent print unit noticed residue in the perfect shape of a heart. The heart was not hand drawn and residue appeared to be consistent with the adhesive side of a heart shaped sticker. It appears that the sticker was put on the duct tape intentionally. In the search area, investigators located a small heart shaped sticker similiar in size to the residue found on the duct tape".

Has anyone seen a photo of a second sticker?

I have pics of sticker sheets that they have released, but since they havent released the pic of the duct tape with the sticky residue, and the sticker found at the scene ....we cant match them.
My guess is that its the missing red heart from the following photos. Someone put that sticker backing in that 'box of special things' for a reason. It was sitting on top of the letter to caylee, not stuck to it (As seen in pic #2) .

KC's fingerprints being on that sticker backing will positively link her too Caylees death, imo, and since the sticker was on the tape, it doesnt matter that her prints aren't on the tape itself.
JMO, of course.

 

[magic-cat]

There is always a chance that LE are not telling, but the list does seem to be a comprehensive list right down to cigarette butts and bits of plastic.

and yet...they did not include the "skull" on any "lists".

I have pics of sticker sheets that they have released, but since they havent released the pic of the duct tape with the sticky residue, and the sticker found at the scene ....we cant match them.
My guess is that its the missing red heart from the following photos. Someone put that sticker backing in that 'box of special things' for a reason. It was sitting on top of the letter to caylee, not stuck to it (As seen in pic #2) .

KC's fingerprints being on that sticker backing will positively link her too Caylees death, imo, and since the sticker was on the tape, it doesnt matter that her prints aren't on the tape itself.
JMO, of course.

You are probably right on the money on this one...why else would she have cut out and KEPT that sticker backing...it defies logic.