Heart-Shaped Sticker On Tape Over Caylee's Mouth

[Ames]

That is so sick. (not you, the idea/line of though). Who actually rewards their child for getting stickers with STICKERS on the DUCT TAPE??

I think that the sticker could have been a "decoration", to keep Caylee from removing the duct tape. Like a reward or something, if she didn't remove it. If Caylee's hand's were not tied, she could have been able to pull at that duct tape. Maybe that reason, is why the tape was so long, that it stuck to her hair, and the heart was added. I could just imagine sicko KC saying, "Caylee, now...I am going to put this pretty sticker on here, but you HAVE to keep the tape on your mouth. If you remove it, then you will remove the pretty sticker too." The biotch!!! :furious:

 

[Chezhire]

Quoted from the Search warrant, here, page 15 of 18:
http://www.wftv.com/news/18530424/detail.html
SNIPPED:
"While processing the duct tape at the FBI lab in Quantico, the latent print unit noticed residue in the perfect shape of a heart. The heart was not hand drawn and the residue appeared to be consistent with the adhesive side of a heart shaped sticker. It appears that the sticker was put on the duct tape intentionally. In the search area, Investigators located a small heart shaped sticker similar in size to that found on the duct tape. The sheet from which this sticker came from was not recovered on the scene."

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Now I'm wondering if the sticker was on the inside of the duct tape (the analysis of which I not has NOT yet been released to us for review, so we don't know what condition it is in or whether or not any of Caylee's saliva/vomit is present on it) and it came loose as a result of Caylee struggling/chewing/crying/vomiting. :furious:

 

[Bev]

Yes, but Wudge, the prosecution doesn't have to prove intent to kill, it doesn't have to prove motive, it just has to prove that a murder took place and the defendent did it. In FLa, that's felony murder.

 

[Wudge]

Can you explain to us in more details how they are "working strongly" against the prosecution's case? All I'm seeing is this repeated statement from you.

Hearts and Winnie the Pooh do not represent malice.

HTH

 

[SeriouslySearching]

On NG a few nights ago they referred to the "return" on the search of the house.. i.e. what they pulled out of the house. Have we seen that document yet? Lord, I hope LE got their hands on that sticker sheet...

This is what I want to see, too. What they removed from the house is going to be really where it gets even more interesting. I am guessing we may not see those yet...but hope so.

 

[Chezhire]

It is no surprise Caylee was found with items that belonged to her. That isn't shocking.

Nope, it isn't, course, you and I weren't doubting who was responsible for Caylee's death prior to the revelation of these search warrants.

 

[AquaEyes]

No bathing suit, as someone mentioned. Makes me think, then, that the pool slide was moved over to the fence and was used to get "something" and maybe herself over the fence. Then it was hurriedly put by the pool, rather than in the other place they kept it.

 

[Ames]

Thank God for you Ames. This conversation is beyond me. The duct tape alone speaks volumes.

I totally agree! The duct tape ALONE speaks HUGE volumes!! It's loud and crystal clear. This was NO accident.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Hearts and Winnie the Pooh do not represent malice.

HTH

Keep on thinking that, Wudge...I guess we shall see how it all fits together with the other evidence presented at the trial.

 

[TakeNote]

Correct. The M.E. concluded homicide, not murder.

when a child dies during of the act of child neglect or abuse (duct tape) it is considered murder.....the FL law

 

[radio]

Nope, it isn't, course, you and I weren't doubting who was responsible for Caylee's death prior to the revelation of these search warrants.

Yes, but even if a foreign entity has done it -- I would still expect some of her own belongings to be with her.

 

[Wudge]

Yes, but Wudge, the prosecution doesn't have to prove intent to kill, it doesn't have to prove motive, it just has to prove that a murder took place and the defendent did it. In FLa, that's felony murder.

Incorrect.

Casey is not charged with felony murder. The charge is premeditated murder. Prosecutors must prove intent.

 

[Bev]

I would think Chez, that a perfect residue shape would mean that their were no shifts in the movement of the sticker which I believe would indicate post mortem. If Baez can talk KC into it, he better start moving to a psychotic episode brought on by stress. That's is the only hope of a defense at this point. The items from the home are very, very bad for his case.

 

[tangerinemoon]

Duct tape is not applied after the fact.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Nope, it isn't, course, you and I weren't doubting who was responsible for Caylee's death prior to the revelation of these search warrants.

 

[Wudge]

when a child dies because of the act of child neglect or abuse (duct tape) it is considered murder.....the FL law

Prosecutors do not claim that Caylee died from child neglect. As such, there is no related felony murder charge. So Casey cannot be convicted of such.

HTH

 

[Bev]

No, I believe she's charged with felony murder which is 1st degree murder in the state of Fla.

 

[Bree0372]

Correct. The M.E. concluded homicide, not murder.

Homicide is murder. :waitasec:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homicide

Main Entry: ho·mi·cide javascript:popWin('/cgi-bin/audio.pl?homici04.wav=homicide') javascript:popWin('/cgi-bin/audio.pl?homici03.wav=homicide') Pronunciation: \ˈhä-mə-ˌsīd, ˈhō-\ Function: noun Etymology: in sense 1, from Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin homicida, from human being + -cida -cide; in sense 2, from Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin homicidium, from + -cidium -cide Date: 14th century 1 : a person who kills another
2 : a killing of one human being by another

 

[Steely Dan]

Help the prosecutors out. Give them the storyline they should use with the jury whereby they claim that hearts and Winnie the Pooh represents malice aforethought.

(its a good exercise for anyone who thinks in a similar fashion)

I know I'm in the vast minority here but I really think that the death could have been accidental or something that happened in a fit of pique.

I'm not sure about the pooh blanket because I think that was just the best thing to use at the time but, I think the heart over the mouth was a sign of deep guilt on her part. Was Caylees book found at the scene? If so I think she was trying to alleviate the pain she had put her through and was providing some of the things Caylee liked to show her she loved her.

I know that's incredibly wacko but, that's the point.

I think she snapped either right before she killed Caylee or after Caylee died. I think her mind has been trying to reconcile the things she's done. I think she was blocking the death out of her mind because it was too painful to deal with and this is why she won't admit to doing it.

The whole beautiful life thing was, IMO, another way to try and bury the feelings of guilt.

I think she honestly believes somebody else was responsible for this.

I'm not a psychiatrist and I don't even play one on TV but that's my personal take on it. JMO

Could this be a "heart shaped sticker" on this block seen on the P.I.s tape?

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/18460467/detail.html


SEE STILLS #30 AND #31.

Wow nice catch! You've got a really good eye for finding stuff like that. :thumb:

Are you kidding???

I think it means exactly that. Lot's of malice, forethought, vengence. EVIL.

How so?

 

[SnowAngels]

I'm not saying it was shocking, I was saying these items will likely tie everything to the Anthony home and likely KC as well.

Nope, it isn't, course, you and I weren't doubting who was responsible for Caylee's death prior to the revelation of these search warrants.