Here's that infamous "red jumpsuit"

[RiverRat]

To even insinuate that the White's had anything whatsoever with this crime, is absolutely ridiculous, in the first place. NO evidence linking them to the crime, is right. ALSO...a huge sign that they had nothing to do with it, is....the PARTY that the Ramsey's went to was AT THE WHITE'S. I do believe that the other party goers would have noticed it, if the hosts of the party suddenly left, and was gone for a long time. The "intruder" was said to have been in the Ramsey home for a hour or more...well duh...the Ramsey's were at the WHITE'S at the time that the "intruder" was there waiting on them. The White's couldn't have been in two places at once. Besides, from what I have read about the White's they are fantastic people, and pillars of the community. They had absolutely nothing to do with this. PERIOD! (and an exclamation mark).

:blowkiss: BRAVO!

 

[RiverRat]

There is absolutely NO evidence linking the Whites to this crime. Not a hair, not a fiber. Not a print. The Rs insinuations are not evidence.
BUT there is plenty of evidence linking the parents to the crime.

You don't mind if I completely agree with every word you just posted, do you?! :blowkiss:

 

[RiverRat]

Just as a note on no evidence etc, I wasnt saying that they murdered JBR I was asking whether they were involved in any *other* way , child sex ring/ helping to cover up etc

Didnt they W's and the R's also fall out after the murder ?

To answer Question One: Absolutely NOT.

To answer Question Two: Absolutely.

 

[DeeDee249]

You don't mind if I completely agree with every word you just posted, do you?! :blowkiss:

Don't mind at all, and right back atcha!:blowkiss:

 

[JaneInOz]

To even insinuate that the White's had anything whatsoever with this crime, is absolutely ridiculous, in the first place. NO evidence linking them to the crime, is right. ALSO...a huge sign that they had nothing to do with it, is....the PARTY that the Ramsey's went to was AT THE WHITE'S. I do believe that the other party goers would have noticed it, if the hosts of the party suddenly left, and was gone for a long time. The "intruder" was said to have been in the Ramsey home for a hour or more...well duh...the Ramsey's were at the WHITE'S at the time that the "intruder" was there waiting on them. The White's couldn't have been in two places at once. Besides, from what I have read about the White's they are fantastic people, and pillars of the community. They had absolutely nothing to do with this. PERIOD! (and an exclamation mark).

But wait you guys are going down the wrong track with me this was in regards to a conversation with Dave about JBR and sexual abuse - my comments were in regard to whether the Males in that house were involved in that - not the murder

 

[JaneInOz]

Jane in Oz: (LOVE your avatar, big fan of Tim Burton's animated movies, not to mention, Johnny Depp.)

I"m not a moderator, but until you get one's attention, I'll give it a go and hope we don't BOTH get in trouble: :behindbar :behindbar

I'm sure you didn't know the policy here on the Whites, as you're new. I think there is a sticky somewhere, or there used to be about this. It has been a policy for a couple of years now, I think, that the Whites are not to be disparaged here. Yes, it's censorship, but this is a privately owned site and the owner has every right to make this decision. She does so because of a long history of the Whites being run over by that infamous RST BUS. This has not only been a harmful burden on that entire family, but has also spilled over into the case forums with such a depth of enmity that some finally were taken offline forever. There were a lot of dirty tricks played during this heated war as well, and those of us who were attacked aren't likely to ever forget. WS forum owner Tricia was on the front lines and this has a lot to do with her decision to keep that from happening here. She didn't have this policy always; it took more of the same old same old to get there.

It always gets VEEEEEEEEEERY ugly, and those who perpetuated the Nancy Krebs scam against the Whites are still around on some forums, still posting and defending her lies and refusing to even consider that Krebs was totally discredited by LE. Not to mention, anyone can read the LE interview transcripts with Krebs and see the woman is seriously disturbed--her long history of interjecting herself into high profile murders, pre-JonBenet, is discussed with her by LE; her clearly delusional state is revealed in her own words. Her wingnut status was revealed in the case records which have been released to the public and published online.

No matter; some people repeat lies about the Whites based on Krebs' accusations, though dismissing her accusations against John Ramsey as "her understandable confusion", but then declaring anything she said against the Whites is NOT confused...even though those accusations are not substantiated by any evidence, either. Her "information" in relation to the Ramsey murder is nothing but her saying she was TOLD this and that by others, but those claims were discredited by the persons Krebs' claimed TOLD her "blahblahblah", not to mention by every single person at the White party on Dec. 25th AND the Ramseys! Believe me when I say NO IDI with HALF A BRAIN buys into Krebs' GOSSIP that "Patsy and John were also child sex ring members who were there that night" or had some kind of involvement. You see, Krebs accused THE RAMSEYS of being involved, as well. She just wants attention, like PERV Karr, for example.

So, if I don't get banned for even posting this explanation to you...heh, I'm a human sacrifice, I am: Basically, to stop the never-ending damage to the forums and the Whites by the group of people who love to bring down forums over it, this forum owner said enough and no more.

Hope this helps. If you feel this topic is something you want to explore--and yes, we understand the Whites are forever entwined with this awful murder, even if they were saints on earth--there are other forums where you can. Here it's best to stick to other theories. :angel:

Ah oh grief sorry. I had no idea. Of course and I would stick my big foot in it
it was honestly a innocent question asked about them (but as I just said in the above post - not in relation to the murder side of it) but yes I will not say another word
I have no idea who that Krebs person is or what RST BUS means but I get the drift of your post and thank you for telling me I appreciate it :blowkiss:

Sorry

 

[Ames]

Ah oh grief sorry. I had no idea. Of course and I would stick my big foot in it
it was honestly a innocent question asked about them (but as I just said in the above post - not in relation to the murder side of it) but yes I will not say another word
I have no idea who that Krebs person is or what RST BUS means but I get the drift of your post and thank you for telling me I appreciate it :blowkiss:

Sorry

RST = Ramsey Spin Team

And Bus, is just that...the bus that the Ramsey's threw all of their friends under. That's another way of saying that the Ramsey's pointed the finger at them (their "friends").

 

[Ames]

But wait you guys are going down the wrong track with me this was in regards to a conversation with Dave about JBR and sexual abuse - my comments were in regard to whether the Males in that house were involved in that - not the murder

The males in the White's house, or the Ramsey's house?? Because, if you are asking the question about the White's...then absolutely not. The males in the Ramsey household...absolutely possible.

 

[Ames]

:blowkiss: BRAVO!

Thank you my dear! I am taking my bow now.

 

[BBB167893]

But wait you guys are going down the wrong track with me this was in regards to a conversation with Dave about JBR and sexual abuse - my comments were in regard to whether the Males in that house were involved in that - not the murder

Folks, I did not mean to start this.

We never finished that conversation. But in truth, no, I don't think anyone from the White's house was involved with that. Although, kids do get into trouble a lot. I sure did.

 

[JaneInOz]

Hey Dave you didnt start it LOL I did
It was something I was exploring and oh boy do I wish I hadnt yikes ! I didn't know they were off topic. Its hard when you come in new and although I have read a lot its impossible to read everything written on the net...
Anyway lets move past this...........

 

[RiverRat]

Hey Dave you didnt start it LOL I did
It was something I was exploring and oh boy do I wish I hadnt yikes ! I didn't know they were off topic. Its hard when you come in new and although I have read a lot its impossible to read everything written on the net...
Anyway lets move past this...........

No harm, no foul.......however, I sure would like to know where the Sticky covering conversations about the Whites went so that you would have known!

 

[JaneInOz]

No harm, no foul.......however, I sure would like to know where the Sticky covering conversations about the Whites went so that you would have known!

Dunno ? probably the same place the Darlie stuff went ! I'd really like that back LOL esp as she has new dna tests coming up

 

[RiverRat]

Jane in Oz: (LOVE your avatar, big fan of Tim Burton's animated movies, not to mention, Johnny Depp.)

I"m not a moderator, but until you get one's attention, I'll give it a go and hope we don't BOTH get in trouble: :behindbar :behindbar

I'm sure you didn't know the policy here on the Whites, as you're new. I think there is a sticky somewhere, or there used to be about this. It has been a policy for a couple of years now, I think, that the Whites are not to be disparaged here. Yes, it's censorship, but this is a privately owned site and the owner has every right to make this decision. She does so because of a long history of the Whites being run over by that infamous RST BUS. This has not only been a harmful burden on that entire family, but has also spilled over into the case forums with such a depth of enmity that some finally were taken offline forever. There were a lot of dirty tricks played during this heated war as well, and those of us who were attacked aren't likely to ever forget. WS forum owner Tricia was on the front lines and this has a lot to do with her decision to keep that from happening here. She didn't have this policy always; it took more of the same old same old to get there.

It always gets VEEEEEEEEEERY ugly, and those who perpetuated the Nancy Krebs scam against the Whites are still around on some forums, still posting and defending her lies and refusing to even consider that Krebs was totally discredited by LE. Not to mention, anyone can read the LE interview transcripts with Krebs and see the woman is seriously disturbed--her long history of interjecting herself into high profile murders, pre-JonBenet, is discussed with her by LE; her clearly delusional state is revealed in her own words. Her wingnut status was revealed in the case records which have been released to the public and published online.

No matter; some people repeat lies about the Whites based on Krebs' accusations, though dismissing her accusations against John Ramsey as "her understandable confusion", but then declaring anything she said against the Whites is NOT confused...even though those accusations are not substantiated by any evidence, either. Her "information" in relation to the Ramsey murder is nothing but her saying she was TOLD this and that by others, but those claims were discredited by the persons Krebs' claimed TOLD her "blahblahblah", not to mention by every single person at the White party on Dec. 25th AND the Ramseys! Believe me when I say NO IDI with HALF A BRAIN buys into Krebs' GOSSIP that "Patsy and John were also child sex ring members who were there that night" or had some kind of involvement. You see, Krebs accused THE RAMSEYS of being involved, as well. She just wants attention, like PERV Karr, for example.

So, if I don't get banned for even posting this explanation to you...heh, I'm a human sacrifice, I am: Basically, to stop the never-ending damage to the forums and the Whites by the group of people who love to bring down forums over it, this forum owner said enough and no more.

Hope this helps. If you feel this topic is something you want to explore--and yes, we understand the Whites are forever entwined with this awful murder, even if they were saints on earth--there are other forums where you can. Here it's best to stick to other theories. :angel:

Here's your refresher......

 

[Ravyn]

The famous coroner reports that the decedent is clothed in a long sleeved knit collarless shirt,mid anterior chest area of which contaiks an embroidered silver star decorated with silver sequin. Now DeeDee249 how upset do you think Mommie Dearest was.

 

[Ravyn]

I mean John Ramsey said he didn't undress JonBenet.Pastsy did. Undress to normal people means getting out of the clothes you was wearing right or have I been doing it wrong all this years.Everything always comes back to John and Pasty,I wonder why.

 

[Ames]

I mean John Ramsey said he didn't undress JonBenet.Pastsy did. Undress to normal people means getting out of the clothes you was wearing right or have I been doing it wrong all this years.Everything always comes back to John and Pasty,I wonder why.

Just in case you didn't know...the red jumpsuit that DeeDee referred to, is the one that JB wore to a Christmas dance recital. According to Patsy, it had a stain on it, and she was soaking it. The morning that she discovered JB "missing", she said that she had gone to check on it, to see how the stain was coming along...before she found the RN. A thought just occured to me...she stated in an interview on CNN, that she discovered the RN, while coming down the stairs, to go and make a pot of coffee. (I need to look at those house plans again, and see where the laundry room was).

 

[JMO8778]

I believe she meant the little laundry area outside JB's room.
Of course her story changed and wasn't consistent anyway,as far as exactly how she came to find the note and the events that led up to it.

 

[DeeDee249]

The famous coroner reports that the decedent is clothed in a long sleeved knit collarless shirt,mid anterior chest area of which contaiks an embroidered silver star decorated with silver sequin. Now DeeDee249 how upset do you think Mommie Dearest was.

I have a problem understanding what you meant by mentioning me specifically in your post. The red jumpsuit we are discussing in this thread has been mentioned for years- PR was questioned on it when she was shown crime scene photos of the house. PR says it was a jumpsuit she wore to a Christmas dance performance at a Mall shortly before her death. THAT is why I posted the picture I found- it is the only one we have seen of her wearing that jumpsuit, and it seems it was taken at some point during her Mall performance. It does not play a part in this crime. Some have confused it with a red turtleneck that PR claimed JBR wore Christmas Day. Later, PR recants this and admits that JBR wore the white Gap shirt with silver star- the one she was found in. All detectives have seen the photos taken at the White's Christmas Day, so it was obvious to them that she wore the white shirt.
All of this info in there for you to read on the net in the Ramsey depos.
The coroner states what she was wearing when he first sees the body. Standard procedure. Some people felt she wore the red turtleneck, and was redressed in the white shirt after death. This may still be true IF she was readied for bed wearing the red turtleneck and the long johns. Then if the red shirt had been soiled somehow, she could have been redressed in the white shirt she wore that day. This could have happened regardless of what she was found wearing, and before or after her death, depending on the events of the night, of which NONE of us are certain.