GUILTY HI - Carly Joann 'Charli' Scott, 27, pregnant, Makawao, 9 Feb 2014 - #3

[puakenikeni]

Aw thanks ...
Apparently Hawai'i law does not give the family, who are crime victims, any special rights. Any who have been following on Facebook will know of the incredible battle the Scotts have fought for Marsi's Law, a bill to address the inequities of victims' lack of rights in this state. I believe that Marsi's Law got oh so close but did not pass the final hurdle in the House.

It appears that anyone who is a witness is not allowed to be present in the courtroom until after they have testified fully. While the reason is understandable on one level, it's so crucial to the family's journey process to be there, as I'm sure we here all agree.

I get the feeling that the family is not very happy with the way they have been treated, and I totally sympathize. First they go through the worst thing that can happen in life, this horrendous loss, and then they become pieces in an impersonal machine that just works the way it works and is not very responsive at all to human pain or needs.

 

[puakenikeni]

oh, and they know that most likely, SC, if found guilty, will do only ten years before eligible for parole. Hawaii is really bad about releasing murderers.

 

[Mamamerced]

It's unbelievably torturous to even hear what that family is suffering at the hands of our so-called justice system. Eligible for parole in 10 years for kidnapping, brutally murdering (and likely dismembering) a pregnant woman and her/his unborn child! When do the crimes end for the Scotts? When can/will Marsey's Law come up for a vote again, do you know?

 

[Nikki Lisette]

Wow. Steven would be in his mid 30s when he got released. That sucks. That's not rehabilitation, that's detention.

 

[heartgoesout]

Wow. Steven would be in his mid 30s when he got released. That sucks. That's not rehabilitation, that's detention.

Unacceptable.

 

[puakenikeni]

MM, he's not charged with kidnapping, which Brooke Scott has been making a great case for why that is so wrong. The enhanced circumstance charge is supposed to keep him in longer, but apparently that usually doesn't end up manifesting. We shall see. A kidnapping convistion could have run consecutively I guess.

 

[Mamamerced]

Right, thanks, Pua. I wasn't thinking in legal terms, just reacting to the shock of what he actually (allegedly) did vs. "justice".

 

[EmmaRose]

oh, and they know that most likely, SC, if found guilty, will do only ten years before eligible for parole. Hawaii is really bad about releasing murderers.

This makes me ill. That's all for such a heinous crime? I'm disgusted.

But he will rot in hell eventually for what he did to Carly and her baby.

Prayers and support to the Scott's.

Just seems so very wrong that Carly, and her baby were sentenced to death by his hand and her family to a life sentence of pain and grief because of him and he won't have to spend the rest of his days in prison.

 

[heartgoesout]

Hope there is some info on today's hearing.

 

[puakenikeni]

Wow is there new! I suggest downloading the Maui News mobile app. It allows me to see the whole article with no nonsense of asking me to subscribe. It's a long article full of great information.

big piece of info is that an officer recovered a single strand of hair from inside the pocket of that pair of men's jeans AFTER the original DNA testing. So this is the new testing that delayed the trial. And the hair has CS's blood on it. Motion from defense to exclude it, argument in the article. Ruling tomorrow.

also several statements SC made to co-workers that is sought for exclusion as prejedicial. Odd they say nothing about his Instagram and Facebook. He asked how to get away with murder not too long before. Defense is trying to exclude, plus testimony from a friend who watched SC tip over and burn a car some years before.

 

[Nikki Lisette]

Great news on finding that hair in the pocket. Praise the Lord!

As far as Steven asking coworkers how to get away with murder... you dummy! Did he really think people wouldn't share that information when a woman and her unborn baby have turned up dead? I don't remember, are there any added charges for premeditated murder?

 

[puakenikeni]

Hawaii does not use premeditation to raise it to first degree, but it would be good to prove to avoid lesser manslaughter.

Defense says all those stupid guilty statements were jokes.

 

[Nikki Lisette]

Maui Now has the judge's rulings on the 4 motions to dismiss.

Judge Cardoza said the comments made to coworkers is relevant because they were made in a timely manner. He is leaving it for the jury to decide whether or not he was joking.

The ex girlfriend saying SC knew how to burn a car is irrelevant.

The judge feels there is still time to get the correct report from the lab regarding Charli's hair found in the pants pocket.

 

[heartgoesout]

"The FBI testing was done on a single hair found in January in a pair of blue jeans that had blood matched to Scott, according to the prosecution."

Who's jeans are they? And are these the black jeans found at the scene?

 

[Nikki Lisette]

I think so. Blue jeans is the material of the pants, I don't think it refers to the color. Denim would have been a better description.

 

[puakenikeni]

I think the hair belongs to SC, not Charli, which would put him as the guy wearing the jeans with her blood on them.
the article said that the first DNA test showed SC could not be ruled out, but neither could a lot of other people on Maui, so the DNA match they're looking at is a match to SC.

 

[puakenikeni]

I think so. Blue jeans is the material of the pants, I don't think it refers to the color. Denim would have been a better description.

Right, "blue jeans" is a type of pants. Back in my youth we called all jeans Levis, whether they were L-S made or not, and most were.
Only one pair of men's jeans was found at the scene, so has to be the same. Described in one article as black and another brown, but always jeans.

 

[Mamamerced]

I got the Maui News app. Thanks for the suggestion, Pua.
I don't know Maui Now's reputation, but they had an in-depth report of the first day of proceedings.
If those jeans do belong to SC, then I doubt the clothes, etc. were "planted". Something must have scared him off. What a huge blunder to leave them there, even w/o the hair in the pocket. Couldn't skin cells be tested for DNA?

 

[Nikki Lisette]

I think the hair belongs to SC, not Charli, which would put him as the guy wearing the jeans with her blood on them.
the article said that the first DNA test showed SC could not be ruled out, but neither could a lot of other people on Maui, so the DNA match they're looking at is a match to SC.

Even better. I read that as CS's hair.

 

[heartgoesout]

So a single hair, was found in a pair of jeans, (presumably the black jeans found were owed by SC) that had CS blood on it.
I have so many questions about this and I hope it is fully explained to a jury in better terms because I'm lost.