HI HI - Jeffrey Meek, 43, Keaau, 8 November 2014

[Lee1968]

I noticed that as well. No comment until yesterdays media. I agree with dave 7070. Everyone close is a suspect. Dav, did you see the phone numbers at the bottom of what you sent me yesterday? What do you think?

 

[rosesfromangels]

I noticed that as well. No comment until yesterdays media. I agree with dave 7070. Everyone close is a suspect. Dav, did you see the phone numbers at the bottom of what you sent me yesterday? What do you think?

This is my impression as well. I don't think LE has to look far beyond his inner circle. Speculation only, of course.

 

[inmyhumbleopinion]

Glad to see Hawaii News Now has an update.
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/...-businessman-continues-family-fears-foul-play

From the article:

1. I hope that LE have been able to trace, even if not completely, where Jeff's 'phone has been. I noticed that the reporter in this video said Jeff's mom and wife told her that LE had told them Jeff's phone wasn't connecting anymore because it was dead. Perhaps that is the case with the type of cell service that is available where Jeff lives, but with my phone, when it's dead (not just turned off, but out of battery) it goes straight to voicemail, as is the case with most of my friends' phones. The only phone I am personally aware of that does not do this is the one my mother-in-law has. Sometimes it rings a few times first, and other times without ringing at all, you get a generic, recorded message that says something to the effect of the phone being out of range, and then it hangs up (she lives in a somewhat rural part of Indiana). So one theory I have is that the 'phone had been left in an area where it was out of range but two nights ago, someone retrieved it (maybe someone who is aware of where the searches are taking place and was afraid that the searchers were about to find the phone ... perhaps because this individual knows that the phone holds some sort of information that could be used as evidence against him/her), and then inadvertently took it to a location where the 'phone was no longer out of range (even still out of battery).

2. I don't think it would have been out of line for the reporter to ask the nephew about the "Mary" at the bottom of the "cools off" text (e.g., she could have said something like, "Just making sure: Are you sure this is the right text? It says Mary at the bottom of it." Easy for me to say, of course, because I am just sitting here at home . Plus, I am genuinely thankful that she has been covering this case). The way it is placed at the bottom of the text, with an extra line right above, just makes it look as though it's a sign-off.

3. I cannot provide a link because this is from a post on a family member's FB page, and this could be completely coincidental, but: The night before Jeff went missing, his mother apparently called him and told him that she was coming to see him over Thanksgiving, of which he had no knowledge up until then. I wonder who else knew. I am so terribly sorry, but I do not believe that Jeff walked away from his family or hurt himself; I think something happened to him, and wonder if someone felt that the deed had to be done before his mom arrived.

4. I do not believe that he is in the water. I do believe that the boots were placed where they were found between Sat. and Tues. Perhaps whoever that did this took the boots home with him/er at first but then realized: "Oops. If the police were to come out and find these here ...!" I think this individual is an amateur, and thus the thing with his cell phone, too.

5. Purely my personal opinion: It's always an ominous sign when a person appears to be crying, but there are no tears. I find this much more troublesome than someone who seems to show no emotion or may appear cold, even.

I get a feeling that the police know quite a bit more than they are letting on. It may still take them a while to gather evidence, but I think they will get this one right.

 

[dav7070]

I get a feeling that the police know quite a bit more than they are letting on. It may still take them a while to gather evidence, but I think they will get this one right.

I agree with this statement. The investigation seemed at a stand still for many days and then all of a sudden another article. I think they have something more than just the cell phone going to voice mail. Someone had stated that disappearances are usually not even covered by the Hawaii News so for the reporter to do a follow up now that she is probably at that location anymore is probably a good sign also that something more has been found. At least I can hope.

 

[Dushi]

I was relieved to read that the police investigation is ongoing

My feeling about this is that it is very personal, nothing random

 

[Dushi]

Come on people
Why is there no new information?
Is anyone looking for this man?

 

[Dushi]

I can't remember..
When nephew arrived to help Jeff and couldn't find him, did he tow the truck out of the mud or just go back home leaving the truck stuck?

Or could he tow it without keys etc?

 

[Plumeria5]

I can't remember..
When nephew arrived to help Jeff and couldn't find him, did he tow the truck out of the mud or just go back home leaving the truck stuck?

Or could he tow it without keys etc?

The truck was still out there for days after his disappearance.

It is eerily quiet.

 

[Dushi]

The truck was still out there for days after his disappearance.

It is eerily quiet.

Ok so when the help arrived to get his truck out and he wasn't around, the nephew just left ? Is it possible to tow the truck without keys?
I think it is as cars are moved out of illegal parking spots all of the time.

The nephew or whoever, doesn't bother to tow the truck out, he leaves it where it is and goes home?

I don't really get that

 

[lucky181]

Ok so when the help arrived to get his truck out and he wasn't around, the nephew just left ? Is it possible to tow the truck without keys?
I think it is as cars are moved out of illegal parking spots all of the time.

The nephew or whoever, doesn't bother to tow the truck out, he leaves it where it is and goes home?

I don't really get that

Here's the video that shows the truck, texts and nephew.
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/clip/10849325/search-continues-for-missing-big-island-man

 

[Dushi]

Ok, so the nephew did not attempt to free the truck

 

[ThinkThinkThink]

Ok, so the nephew did not attempt to free the truck

Guess not.

That news clip just doubled the questions I have. :gaah:

 

[Dushi]

Guess not.

That news clip just doubled the questions I have. :gaah:

LOL, me too.
Although, there was a discussion awhile back about Jeff not having employees. When the reporter was telling the story, she called Kevin Deal an employee of Jeffs

 

[Dushi]

What time did Jeff leave home that morning?
Did he just arrive when the truck got stuck?

He called the nephew at 9:18am to tell him he needed help.
We are assuming nephew and Jeff spoke, not voice mail
Then nephew received the texts, drove out to the land to help his uncle
When he arrived, his uncle wasn't back from his "walk"
The nephew leaves without doing anything with the truck
He says he assumed Jeff was going to walk home.
He must have also assumed jeff would not walk the road, as he did not pass him on his way back home and that didn't raise red flags.
AFAIK nephew did not call to check if Jeff got home
it seems as if his Mom was one of the first to be concerned as he did not call her as he usually does

Going to watch that video again


CORRECTION

The text came in at 9:18
Mary was concerned earlier in the morning when she did not hear from Jeff as he was supposed to meet them in a couple of hours after leaving to work on the land

 

[Dushi]

Noticed there is no box on the truck
Tools must have been in the cab with him..

 

[ThinkThinkThink]

What time did Jeff leave home that morning?
Did he just arrive when the truck got stuck?

He called the nephew at 9:18am to tell him he needed help.
We are assuming nephew and Jeff spoke, not voice mail
Then nephew received the texts, drove out to the land to help his uncle
When he arrived, his uncle wasn't back from his "walk"
The nephew leaves without doing anything with the truck
He says he assumed Jeff was going to walk home.
He must have also assumed jeff would not walk the road, as he did not pass him on his way back home and that didn't raise red flags.
AFAIK nephew did not call to check if Jeff got home
it seems as if his Mom was one of the first to be concerned as he did not call her as he usually does

Going to watch that video again


CORRECTION

The text came in at 9:18
Mary was concerned earlier in the morning when she did not hear from Jeff as he was supposed to meet them in a couple of hours after leaving to work on the land

Yep, you pretty much spelled out much of what I've been thinking, Dushi. We're missing a lot of the beginning and middle parts of this narrative, and by that I just mean basic facts. I can't figure out if that's due to the media (not pinning down specifics when interviewing or the editing of their news pieces) or if LE is ensuring certain info is held back.

Do we know how far away that property is from Jeff's house (?) -- because it really puzzled me when the nephew said he thought Jeff would "turn up in the morning" (maybe I got that wrong; I'll go listen to the clip again). And the nephew never tried to call Jeff OR Mary, when he got to the scene, right? I guess not, as it appears Mary wasn't alarmed until around Noon, when the Mom called. Maybe this would make more sense if it was put in context with the call to the nephew. Not knowing if he talked to the nephew "live" or what was said ("live" or on voicemail) is kind of a big deal, in terms of us understanding this. Because it's really hard to know what the last solid fact is. The text sounds bogus, but in context, it may not be...again, :gaah:

The Mom is thinking/acting/reacting in a way that makes total sense to me.

***re: news clip info: nephew did say something about figuring Jeff would "show up in the morning," but the news piece is obviously edited (and you can tell it is specifically sliced when the nephew is talking), so again, put in context, this may make more sense. And "show up in the morning" may just have been the nephew's way of saying he'd see him the next day. Hard to know, with no explanations.

 

[Dushi]

Is this right?

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Pep...7e6e9f4bed1!2m2!1d-155.041667!2d19.621111!3e2

 

[Dushi]

He lived in Keaau?
His property was in Pepeekeo?

That is quite a walk

 

[Plumeria5]

Is this right?

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Pep...7e6e9f4bed1!2m2!1d-155.041667!2d19.621111!3e2

Yes, it is right. 20 miles. Walking home wasn't a logical option.

 

[Dushi]

Yes, it is right. 20 miles. Walking home wasn't a logical option.

OMG, that doesn't even make sense when someone was coming to help