HI HI - Jeffrey Meek, 43, Keaau, 8 November 2014

  • #281
I dont know how to post a link, but what she sent me was in the Hawaii herald trib yesterday, I believe. She says that the employees all quit and she seems to imply this was around oct.

If you have the link to the news report, open it and right click on the link
Then you can copy it in a post, provided it is a reputable MSM
 
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  • #284
“It doesn’t fit,” Sandra Meek said. “The shoe was a mile and a half away from where the truck was stuck in the mud. Now, c’mon. Why would he walk a mile and a half while he’s waiting for somebody to come and help him get out of the mud? His cellphone records show the calls that he made for someone to come and help him. Why would you walk away to go swimming while you’re waiting for someone to come and help you get your truck out of the mud?” - See more at: http://hawaiitribune-herald.com/new...-man-s-mother-speaks-out#sthash.aaJMNz7D.dpuf
 
  • #285
Sandra Meek said reports her son had confronted former employees about alleged thefts from the company were true, and added, “They all quit.” She said her son had hired new staff and she spent three weeks with him in late October and early November going over the plumbing business’ books.

“Financially, I would say he was in debt approximately 50- to 60-thousand dollars. But his gross receipts were in the hundreds of thousands per year. He had a successful company.”

- See more at: http://hawaiitribune-herald.com/new...-man-s-mother-speaks-out#sthash.aaJMNz7D.dpuf
 
  • #286
Jeffrey Meek was seeing a psychiatrist and was taking medicine for attention deficit disorder, his mother said, but added he wasn’t depressed and had “absolutely no reason” to disappear.

“She (the psychiatrist) said he was optimistic, in a good mood, looking forward to the future because of the land and the baby, and that he was at the best place he’d been in his life,” Sandra Meek said.

- See more at: http://hawaiitribune-herald.com/new...-man-s-mother-speaks-out#sthash.aaJMNz7D.dpuf
 
  • #287
Police Lt. Robert Wagner, commander of the Hilo Criminal Investigation Division, reiterated Wednesday that Meek’s disappearance still is a missing person’s investigation.

“We have no evidence to indicate he was (a victim of) foul play at this time,” Wagner said.

He added there also is “no evidence” Meek disappeared on his own.

- See more at: http://hawaiitribune-herald.com/new...-man-s-mother-speaks-out#sthash.aaJMNz7D.dpuf
 
  • #288
It sounds like police are thinking accident
However, the boots lead me away from that
The article says they were found a mile and a half apart



Friends, family members, and fellow parishioners of his church combed the parcel and the nearby shoreline. Two days later, they found one of his boots. The other was found the following day, about a mile and a half away, near a shoreline access point. - See more at: http://hawaiitribune-herald.com/new...-man-s-mother-speaks-out#sthash.aaJMNz7D.dpuf
 
  • #289
Based on what I am reading above, I believe Jeff did call someone to pick him up. His Mom says there are records of the calls
So even if the truck doesn't look stuck, I am guessing it must have been, unless someone is telling a lie about the conversation that took place during that call.

So, I go back to.. why would he leave, knowing somebody was coming to help
Its 15 miles, not a long drive.

Why wasn't the truck towed out of the mud.. or was it?
Why would someone assume he was walking home and not check on him?

Not to cast blame on anyone, but the person who came to help him......... I believe I read he and his wife live with Jeff
 
  • #290
So can we assume the people who quit were office managers and not necessarily the plumbers? Can't remember the last time I called a plumber but I think he came, did the work and then we received a bill from the company later in the mail. We did not pay the plumber directly because he didn't make up the bill at the time of service.

Did the employees quit after his mother came and she was checking the books? Were they questioned about the debt, didn't have any answers and then quit? It sounds like they aren't going to be charged with anything. Is that just a coincidence with his disappearance or was Jeff not wanting to use his mother's help and was trying to find another way to make up the debt?
 
  • #291
Friends, family members, and fellow parishioners of his church combed the parcel and the nearby shoreline. Two days later, they found one of his boots. The other was found the following day, about a mile and a half away, near a shoreline access point. - See more at: http://hawaiitribune-herald.com/new...-man-s-mother-speaks-out#sthash.aaJMNz7D.dpuf

It seemed to me this is a misunderstanding of a fact. I understood previously that both boots were found at the Point, which is "a mile-and-a-half" away from his truck, not that the boots were 1.5 miles apart. One boot was on the path leading to the water, and the other was in the water lodged under a rock.

I believe it would be helpful if someone going to the caves Saturday would ask Sandra Meek if she would join this Website and give us clues she receives from the police and/or her private detectives. Then we who live in Hawaii could conduct searches for them.
 
  • #292
So can we assume the people who quit were office managers and not necessarily the plumbers? Can't remember the last time I called a plumber but I think he came, did the work and then we received a bill from the company later in the mail. We did not pay the plumber directly because he didn't make up the bill at the time of service.

Did the employees quit after his mother came and she was checking the books? Were they questioned about the debt, didn't have any answers and then quit? It sounds like they aren't going to be charged with anything. Is that just a coincidence with his disappearance or was Jeff not wanting to use his mother's help and was trying to find another way to make up the debt?


Thats a lot of money
I think I would have brought LE into it
 
  • #293
Based on what I am reading above, I believe Jeff did call someone to pick him up. His Mom says there are records of the calls
So even if the truck doesn't look stuck, I am guessing it must have been, unless someone is telling a lie about the conversation that took place during that call.

So, I go back to.. why would he leave, knowing somebody was coming to help
Its 15 miles, not a long drive.

Why wasn't the truck towed out of the mud.. or was it?
Why would someone assume he was walking home and not check on him?

Not to cast blame on anyone, but the person who came to help him......... I believe I read he and his wife live with Jeff
I think the granddaughter and husband who were also to have a house on the lot is the nephew he called to get him out of the mud. Jeff's mother's granddaughter would be Jeff's niece.
 
  • #294
It seemed to me this is a misunderstanding of a fact. I understood previously that both boots were found at the Point, which is "a mile-and-a-half" away from his truck, not that the boots were 1.5 miles apart. One boot was on the path leading to the water, and the other was in the water lodged under a rock.

I believe it would be helpful if someone going to the caves Saturday would ask Sandra Meek if she would join this Website and give us clues she receives from the police and/or her private detectives. Then we who live in Hawaii could conduct searches for them.


Yes, that is what I first read, a mile and a half away from the truck
The report above says something different

Either way, they were not found together and according to some searchers, the boots or at least one, was not where it was found a few days before
 
  • #295
Can someone confirm if the truck was removed from the mud where it was stuck or left there on that day, the day Jeff disappeared?
 
  • #296
It seems the mom's interview adds a lot more detail to the story we have so far. Hard to say whether all of those facts are correct, though, given her distance from the situation.

The 50-60k in debt thing is confusing. It's expensive to start a business and expensive to run one. Is this 50-60k new debt from the alleged employee embezzling? Or is this the kind of debt you'd expect a business owner to have, for property, vehicles, equipment, etc he was paying off? I think mom is implying the former, but that amount seems pretty normal. Without any evidence to the contrary, I'd assume the latter.
 
  • #297
Based on this statement

Sandra Meek said reports her son had confronted former employees about alleged thefts from the company were true,
I think this is unaccounted for debt

Sandra has been in Hawaii from almost the beginning of Jeff's disappearance
 
  • #298
I guess the mom's story is just a little too pat. He's in debt, but it's not his fault, it's some employees' fault, but they're out of the picture now and apparently everyone's just fine with that?

ETA: not accusing mom of anything, maybe Jeff didn't tell her the whole story, maybe she's totally correct, maybe the paper isn't giving us the whole story. Could be anything.
 
  • #299
I guess the mom's story is just a little too pat. He's in debt, but it's not his fault, it's some employees' fault, but they're out of the picture now and apparently everyone's just fine with that?

ETA: not accusing mom of anything, maybe Jeff didn't tell her the whole story, maybe she's totally correct, maybe the paper isn't giving us the whole story. Could be anything.



Perhaps you are correct

But Mrs Meek is a successful business woman
I think she would understand the difference between operating expenses and unaccounted for missing money

Who knows where it went
There is no proof that employees touched it, thats Jeff's story
She believes her son, thats not unusual

Maybe Jeff was stealing from himself
We do not know

But she has confirmed that there is money missing from his business AFASK
 
  • #300
Can someone confirm if the truck was removed from the mud where it was stuck or left there on that day, the day Jeff disappeared?

It was still there on Nov. 13th when I and others searched the area for clues.
 

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