Holly Bobo, missing from TN 2014 discussion #1 ***ARREST***

[cluciano63]

Could ZA have been involved in the ruckus about Holly's BF being reportedly hunting on land without permission that morning? To set up a delay or some kind of diversion?

 

[Mitzki5]

I would assume ZA facebook page is down now. Did anyone look to see if Holly and him were friends on Facebook or if they had close mutual friends?

 

[Carla Lashelle]

Could ZA have been involved in the ruckus about Holly's BF being reportedly hunting on land without permission that morning? To set up a delay or some kind of diversion?

I doubt it... wasn't that somewhat far away considering this happened not much before the abduction.

 

[cluciano63]

I doubt it... wasn't that somewhat far away considering this happened not much before the abduction.

Yeah I was just thinking if he wanted to make sure Holly had to hang around the house for a few minutes if he was "running late" to abduct her...he may have wanted to create a reason...

 

[Carla Lashelle]

I would assume ZA facebook page is down now. Did anyone look to see if Holly and him were friends on Facebook or if they had close mutual friends?

No its still up. His actual friends list seems private but there is a Charlie Bobo who follows ZA.

He is not the most prolific FB poster with just a post or two now and then which might make any specific posts more interesting.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

Yeah I was just thinking if he wanted to make sure Holly had to hang around the house for a few minutes if he was "running late" to abduct her...he may have wanted to create a reason...

I am not sure he would know the ins and outs of what Drew was doing half a county away.

I don't think this guy had the evil genius mental capacity of Blofeld...

 

[Foxfire]

I would imagine the Parson/Decatur County Churches are overflowing today praying for strength in support for Holly Bobo and her family & friends.. Their journey searching for truth and justice is far from over..
RIP Holly Bobo..

Stay Strong by Heather Cohen
https://soundcloud.com/musictykoon/stay-strong


http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/20140308/NEWS01/140308008

Hundreds gather for Holly Bobo memorial ride

 

[neverletgo]

http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/20140308/NEWS01/140308008

Hundreds gather for Holly Bobo memorial ride

A picture from Foxfire's link:

 

[Foxfire]

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[jggordo]

Good morning everyone. Happy Sunday to you all!:seeya:

I have been thinking about the subject 'whether the TBI/FBI found Holly's remains or not.' This morning I just sat back and tried to look at it logically because more often than not the answer is based in good old common sense and logic.

Usually when there is no proof of a body the family still holds onto hope that their loved one is alive.

However, here in the case, the Bobos have been told something by LE that convinces them that Holly is in Heaven now. And this entire family held out hope for three years that she was being held some place and was still alive.

So for them to accept it now.... LE has to have something irrefutable showing Holly has indeed been murdered.

So maybe they did find bone fragments or other skeletal remains and told the Bobos not to release the particulars to anyone.

I believe you are right. By not revealing that information to the public I believe it gives LE the ability to "fact check" any incoming information or confessions by possible co-conspiritors who may be trying to "deal down"
their involvement.

Also I believe it is telling that several of the "A-train" are being held at different facilities around the state. This way they cannot send messages back and forth, much less compare possible stories. I think JA was even moved to Riverbend, a max security facility.

But IMO the biggest turn in this investigation has been to get ZA off the streets with no bond. People can be free to talk, and don't have to fear the boogieman any longer. JMO's

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

The "A" Gang (also called the "A" Train, which I think is the original name) is not called thus because of Zach Adams. It is named for the fact that all of the young men involved have last names that begin with the letter "A." Just thought I would point that out....
And ZA is not the only hellion among them, of course. Demons flock together, you know.

Also, the "A-Team" is a slang term used for Class A drugs (ex. crack, heroin). Musician Ed Sheeran has a hit single called "A-Team" which is a true story about a prostitute crack addict he met at a homeless shelter while performing in LA named "Angel".

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Yeah, I'm actually thinking along the same lines as you - I'm sure he's not the only one involved and who knows what part he played in her kidnapping and her death. For all we know, they found remains on HIS land and that's why he's charged. Someone else could have pulled the trigger, someone else could be the mastermind.....who really knows until we see what happens re- other people being arrested. I don't think he did this all by himself at all though. MOO

While I do think he had others who helped him, I still think he is the main one that TBI/FBI had their eyes on the entire time it took for them to investigate him, search his home/property, and finally arrest him. Imo, he was their main target.

He is the first one they arrested and charged with aggravated kidnapping and murder. I think he is the main suspect in this case. This tells me they have more irrefutable evidence on him than the others, and that is why we have seen no further arrests yet. It may take them longer to investigate what role each of the others played. Imo, LE already knows what role ZA played in the kidnapping and murder or they wouldn't have arrested him. He is going to be the main suspect imo.

From all that I have read he seems to be the leader who has sheeple followers. I think he controls his followers who are probably weaker minded than him by intimidation. With fear he can control them to be puppets to do as he wants done. Imo, that is why he has always been known as such a bad as* dude. Its all about fear, intimidation, and control. The same thing he did to Holly when he kidnapped and murdered her.

I don't think he is unintelligent as some posters seem to think. Many times narcissistic sociopaths are quite intelligent yet can be highly dysfunctional. But their downfall can come when they think they are smarter than everyone including LE. The more crimes they do the bolder they become until they feel they are 10 feet tall and bullet proof.

 

[AmandaReckonwith]

"Justice for Holly" covers the case from arrest(s) to trial(s):
http://s296.photobucket.com/user/crankycrankerson/library/Holly%20Bobo%20%20-TN-/Justice%20for%20Holly#/user/crankycrankerson/library/Holly%20Bobo%20%20-TN-/Justice%20for%20Holly?sort=6&page=1&_suid=1394382480011047650170594564606

Main Case Archive for Holly Bobo:
http://s296.photobucket.com/user/cr...&page=1&_suid=1394382477332035509026301797547

 

[Foxfire]

Originally Posted by oceanblueeyes View Post
Good morning everyone. Happy Sunday to you all!

I have been thinking about the subject 'whether the TBI/FBI found Holly's remains or not.' This morning I just sat back and tried to look at it logically because more often than not the answer is based in good old common sense and logic.

Usually when there is no proof of a body the family still holds onto hope that their loved one is alive.

However, here in the case, the Bobos have been told something by LE that convinces them that Holly is in Heaven now. And this entire family held out hope for three years that she was being held some place and was still alive.

So for them to accept it now.... LE has to have something irrefutable showing Holly has indeed been murdered.

So maybe they did find bone fragments or other skeletal remains and told the Bobos not to release the particulars to anyone.

I believe you are right. By not revealing that information to the public I believe it gives LE the ability to "fact check" any incoming information or confessions by possible co-conspiritors who may be trying to "deal down"
their involvement.

Also I believe it is telling that several of the "A-train" are being held at different facilities around the state. This way they cannot send messages back and forth, much less compare possible stories. I think JA was even moved to Riverbend, a max security facility.

But IMO the biggest turn in this investigation has been to get ZA off the streets with no bond. People can be free to talk, and don't have to fear the boogieman any longer. JMO's

I agree with both of your theories and conclusions. Many times we learn more by the actions of investigators and by what info is not revealed publicity than we do via pressers..

Imo, this tragedy is going to get much worse as the truth seeps out via ms media investigations, unknown witnesses coming forward, and possibly unknown victims of ZA/A Gang's deviant behavior being revealed.

There's an ole saying; you have to study the artwork to understand the artist..
Imo, ZA's traits, past violent criminal history against women and society in general, paints a very dark and bleak picture as too his enormous evil and escalation..

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

I agree with both of your theories and conclusions. Many times we learn more by the actions of investigators and by what info is not revealed publicity than we do via pressers..

Imo, this tragedy is going to get much worse as the truth seeps out via ms media investigations, unknown witnesses coming forward, and possibly unknown victims of ZA/A Gang's deviant behavior being revealed.

There's an ole saying; you have to study the artwork to understand the artist..
Imo, ZA's traits, past violent criminal history against women and society in general, paints a very dark and bleak picture as too his enormous evil and escalation..

ITA. Also for me, the quote of "you have to study the artwork to understand the artist" speaks for one of the many reasons I come to WS. The psychodynamics, motivations, and predilections of criminals are an important study if we are to keep our society safe. Often times this gets overlooked while we focus on trials, evidence, and forensics.
But we must all ask ourselves the "why" did they do what they did if we are going to prevent future catastophies in any way. The study of criminal deviance is so important, imo. Studying the "whys" does not give the perp an excuse but allows us avenues to explore prevention and deterrance.

I honestly feel much of it goes back to when the perps were very young.

 

[jggordo]

I thought every state has a public access via internet to court cases, arrests, court rulings and sentences. I guess I was being naïve. I cannot find that TN has one. But if that's the case, it should change.

There is no way in this day and age that the people of TN should be looking in the rearview mirror on the behavior of this man. We should not be depending on the media or LE to tell us what has been going on with him. It should be and should have been available for scrutiny a long time ago.

In contrast, in the state where I live (MO) on Feb. 18, 2014 a man snatched 10 year old Hailey Owens right off the street while walking home. Within 4 days 10,000 people showed up for her candlelight vigil to show support for her family and also demonstrate the outrage for such an act. She had been allegedly shot in the head within 3 1/2 hours.

The contrast I'm trying to make is, by the time he was behind bars we were able to know his record. Not waiting for MSM to report it, which they did. But to this day I can tell you where and when he will appear in court, any motions filed for bond, who the judge is, etc. It should be public information.

If I were a resident in TN I would get with a media rep, senator or something to get it changed. It's inconceivable to me. The PUBLIC could have picked up on his behavior many arrests ago had they only known. This is just my opinions.

MO - Hailey Owens, 10, Springfield, 18 Feb 2014

 

[Carla Lashelle]

I thought every state has a public access via internet to court cases, arrests, court rulings and sentences. I guess I was being naïve. I cannot find that TN has one. But if that's the case, it should change.

At least here it is by county so you would check the county of record for the offenses.

 

[Foxfire]

"Justice for Holly" covers the case from arrest(s) to trial(s):
http://s296.photobucket.com/user/crankycrankerson/library/Holly%20Bobo%20%20-TN-/Justice%20for%20Holly#/user/crankycrankerson/library/Holly%20Bobo%20%20-TN-/Justice%20for%20Holly?sort=6&page=1&_suid=1394382480011047650170594564606

Main Case Archive for Holly Bobo:
http://s296.photobucket.com/user/cr...&page=1&_suid=1394382477332035509026301797547

You just don't know how much we appreciate you, AmandaReckonwith. I spent several hours yesterday viewing the photos and watching the videos of pressers, etc., in the HB abduction case. It is amazing how much you forget over 3 years. Your site is a backwards walk in time, very informative, and I would advise everyone, especially newcomers, to review the site... TY...

 

[jggordo]

At least here it is by county so you would check the county of record for the offenses.

So can you go to at least to his county and see his arrest(s), dates, court(s), judges, attorneys, sentence dates or probation lengths of times?

If so do you have the link?

 

[Carla Lashelle]

So can you go to at least to his county and see his arrest(s), dates, court(s), judges, attorneys, sentence dates or probation lengths of times?

If so do you have the link?

I have not looked for Holly's county. I have just had experience looking up records in my county in FL.