Holly Bobo, missing from TN 2014 discussion #1 ***ARREST***

[~n/t~]

I have posted the link twice in the last few days with family spokesman Kevin Bromley discussing the Coon Hunt. According to him, Holly did not sing there and Karen was not there at all.

ZA's friend said both Karen and Holly were there. Holly' friend Candace said she double dated with Holly at the coon hunt. Obviously Someone is not being truthful.

 

[mck16]

I didn't interpret that way. I think he was comparing it to the horrendous nature of what was done to the two victims in the other case.

Also no where did I think he meant Holly was into meth. The monster who did this was a meth head and Holly had to endure what this meth head did to her.

Imo, Holly didn't see anything. She lived in another world. She got up that morning like she always had and was heading out to school to take a big test that day. ZA was waiting THERE and the nightmare started.

I still continue to believe that the motive in this case is the very same motive in other cases just like it. Holly was kidnapped because she was an unobtainable, beautiful, good person, that ZA could never have in a normal way. So he took what he knew he couldn't have any other way and his full intentions was to rape and have his way with this young woman, and unfortunately, imo, that is exactly what he did.

IMO

I do believe he had stalked her because he obviously knew her habits as to when she left for school. He also knew that no one would be home. Was probably surprised Clint was there. jmo

 

[~n/t~]

I think the only reason we're questioning physical description has to do whether or not he acted alone or had an accomplice (s).

 

[mck16]

ZA's friend said both Karen and Holly were there. Holly' friend Candace said she double dated with Holly at the coon hunt. Obviously Someone is not being truthful.

Or is terribly confused.

I wuld not believe za's friend in the least. jmo

 

[~Lyric~]

There's a reason carnival barkers hawk the guess the weight game. Height and weight are extremely difficult to estimate. With weight, a lot of physical factors come into play...muscle weighs more than fat, bone structure often gives a false impression of weight, a woman with very large breasts and a small waist may weigh much more than she appears to, and so on and so forth. With height, perspective and reference points come into play. Was the person far away, towering over the witness, did he/she have poor posture, was he/she observed stationary or moving, etc. etc. Add to both of those things a stressful situation that is rapidly unfolding and it's not difficult to understand why witness descriptions are often highly inaccurate.

There's a show on NatGeo called Brain Games. On one episode, they created a scenario of a car chase that resulted in a crash. They staged this in front of eyewitnesses, and then asked the witnesses questions like what color was the car, how fast was it going when it hit the second car, how many people were in the car, and so on. How the interviewer worded the questions often lead witnesses to recall events differently, even though they had all seen the same thing. If the interviewer asked, "How fast was the car traveling when it smashed into the parked car?", witnesses increased the speed. If the interviewer asked, "How fast was the car travelling when it bumped the parked car?", witnesses estimated the speed of the moving car much slower.

Many things come into play with eyewitness accounts. It's wise to always take these accounts with a grain of salt, imo.

I watch this show from time to time.
I too, think that what I may see, will be different then what you may see.
My brother is over 6 Ft, my husband is over 6 Ft my son is under 6 FT, I think they all weigh about the same, but if truth be known, I'd say there is at least a 10-15 pound difference in them.
Ive been known to think someone is someone else in the distance, until they are right up in my face.

 

[~n/t~]

Or is terribly confused.

I wuld not believe za's friend in the least. jmo

I see no reason for her to lie about it. I can see Bromley covering up that information though.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

ZA's friend said both Karen and Holly were there. Holly' friend Candace said she double dated with Holly at the coon hunt. Obviously Someone is not being truthful.

Yes and no...

Candace could have double dated with Holly (and Drew) but that doesn't mean Karen was there. I think it is odd that, while she may mention this, she mentions no incident.

Holly could have been there/was there but did not sing (as is widely claimed)

I would not hold ZA to any accurate statement about anything and I have not seen those statements in any mainstream report.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

I see no reason for her to lie about it. I can see Bromley covering up that information though.

Ok so you have the family spokesman lying/covering up stuff but believe ZA and or his drugged out buddies?

I think people are making this case wayyyyyyyyy too complicated and convoluted with weird theories and connections JMOO

 

[~n/t~]

Yes and no...

Candace could have double dated with Holly (and Drew) but that doesn't mean Karen was there. I think it is odd that, while she may mention this, she mentions no incident.

Holly could have been there/was there but did not sing (as is widely claimed)

I would not hold ZA to any accurate statement about anything and I have not seen those statements in any mainstream report.

I wasn't referring to Holly singing and I don't recall mentioning ZA making any statement about the coon hunt.

 

[giagreen]

Don't really know what to say.

Wow...That is quite the resemblance. Defiantly something that should be looked at.

 

[jggordo]

I am working on a timeline of ZA's arrests, charges, court, judge, sentence imposed, plea, and then actual time served. Kind of like a spreadsheet. But I cannot find a definitive source to obtain the information. Because the state itself does not seem to have one. Does anyone know, do you have to go to each county one by one to find it? Is it accessible online or do you have to go there?

I think we all are outraged by the general concept that he went too far too long. But when I get outraged I like to know exactly what I am outraged about. And also I believe if anyone wants to pursue changes there should be a concise basis for it. JMO

 

[~n/t~]

Ok so you have the family spokesman lying/covering up stuff but believe ZA and or his drugged out buddies?

I think people are making this case wayyyyyyyyy too complicated and convoluted with weird theories and connections JMOO

She isn't his drugged out buddy as far as I know and I see no reason for her to lie to the police.

Danielle Darnell, who grew up with Adams, revealed another connection between Adams and Bobo when she was interviewed by police last week.
Darnell says she told police that Bobo encountered Adams and friends out on a racoon hunt a week before her disappearance.

'Holly was on stage and walking around the coon hunt and they basically followed, stalked her a bit,' Darnell told WBBJ. 'Karen [Bobo] even went up and introduced herself as Holly's mom.'
Darnell says Adams made a few comments about Bobo in the past year to close friends, and that she and others reported the comments to the TBI.
'I do believe he is involved along with three others. I just know from things I've heard,' she said.


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[maskedwoman]

I'm sure you guys have discussed this at length in the past, but this just does NOT add up for me.

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• 7:50 a.m.: A barking dog wakes Clint Bobo up. He notices his sister's car still in the driveway and calls his mother's cellphone at school. His mother does not have the phone with her but receives the message from the school secretary, phones home and talks to her son, who tells her that Holly Bobo's car is still there.

• 7:55 a.m.: Karen Bobo calls 911 from school; she reaches the wrong county's emergency dispatcher. Clint Bobo looks out the window and sees a man dressed in camouflage walking with his sister toward the woods. Clint Bobo calls his sister's phone and gets voicemail; he also calls her boyfriend's phone and gets voicemail.

• A little before 8 a.m.: Karen Bobo calls her house again. Her son tells her that he saw his sister and her boyfriend walking toward the woods. Karen Bobo tells him that the man is not Holly Bobo's boyfriend and to call 911.

• 8 a.m.: Clint Bobo gets a loaded pistol at his mother's request and walks out the back door through an open garage attached to the house. He sees a puddle of blood near his sister's car. His neighbor's mother pulls up the driveway to say she heard screams 15 or 20 minutes ago. Clint Bobo then calls 911. At nursing school, a few of Holly Bobo's classmates wonder why she's not there; one thought she might have been in a car wreck. [/I]

Clint doesn't hear the scream, but is woken up 10 minutes after the scream by a barking dog? Okay, this would make sense if Holly was already in the woods, or closer to the woods than the house. But when exactly was Clint supposed to have seen Holly and the person he thought was Drew bending down in the carport? When did he supposedly hear them arguing? Or has that never been verified?

I don't know if it's been verified or not but perhaps the dog was inside the house? We live on 40 acres surrounded by woods, not too different from the Bobo's property. My dogs could bark their fool heads off outside and I wouldn't hear a thing.

 

[~n/t~]

There are reasons family spokespeople don't always reveal information whether by advice from the family or LE.

If he said Holly wasn't there, he may have done so to protect the family or the integrity of the investigation. IMO.

 

[MalPal]

I don't think Zach would have kidnapped or killed holly over her finding out something to do w his and his friends meth dealings. For one I don't think holly would have been in a position to find out anything about all that. The girl had nothing to do w drugs. Two, if she did by chance find out something about them, I think she would have called the police immediately or told her family. Three, ZA allegedly bragged quite a bit about his dealings. I think he liked people to think he was a "big dog." I think he felt invincible in regard to getting away with drug crimes. I can't see him kidnapping her for that reason even if by some bizarre chance she had found out something incriminating about them. I think the motivation was to sexually assault her. I wonder if they had seen her somewhere or maybe just knew of her and had been Facebook stalking her somehow and got obsessed and then got into a meth craze and decided to get her.

 

[Foxfire]

I have posted the link twice in the last few days with family spokesman Kevin Bromley discussing the Coon Hunt. According to him, Holly did not sing there and Karen was not there at all.

RE: Coon Hunt

Imo, the coon hunt controversy began three hears ago and has continued due to the silence by the TBI, as well as the silencing of the ms media, the HB spokersperson; Bromley, and others in the HB investigation..

I am as confused as many others due to the miss info and silence. The WOW team was either hired or was working with approval of the HB family. It would be reasonable to conclude that they would have been given much of the info by them, imo.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/54600357/...g-terms-reality-holly-bobo-case/#.UyCfGfldUuc

Candace Wood double-dated with Bobo at the coon hunt just days before Bobo was kidnapped and murdered. Wood said Bobo did not associate with or tolerate people like Zachary Adams, the man suspected in the kidnapping and death of Holly Bobo, or his friends who were always in trouble with the law.


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http://www.nbc12.com/story/22116238/case-of-missing-nurse-holly-bobo-has-new-clues-new-detectives

Holly Bobo vanished from her family's Parsons, TN, home in Decatur County on April 13, 2011, and in a video clip she is seen singing at a coon hunt just one week before her abduction. What may have seemed like a day of harmless family fun was hardly that at all.

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http://www.wbbjtv.com/news/local/Wo...w-with-TBI-in-Bobo-Search--247948711.html?m=y
Woman Speaks Out about Interview with TBI in Bobo Search
By Natalie Potts

Darnell told WBBJ 7 Eyewitness News that Adams reportedly had an incident with Holly Bobo at a coon hunt the week before she went missing.

"Holly was on stage and walking around the coon hunt and they basically followed, stalked her a little bit," said Darnell. "Karen even went up and introduced herself as Holly's mom."

Although law enforcement cannot confirm a relationship between Adams and Bobo, neighbors said they feel there is a connection.

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http://s296.photobucket.com/user/cr...y/030514KevinBromley-spokesperson002.mp4.html
3/5/14 Kevin Bromley, On Behalf Of The Bobo Family Talks About What Happened. He Also Mentions The Coon Hunt, And Contradicts What Was Reported.

 

[~n/t~]

I don't know if it's been verified or not but perhaps the dog was inside the house? We live on 40 acres surrounded by woods, not too different from the Bobo's property. My dogs could bark their fool heads off outside and I wouldn't hear a thing.

They have (had) 2 dogs. Outside dog Golden Retriever we saw in a video and inside dog

 

[maskedwoman]

Hmm. That Facebook post is concerning to me. In 2011, folks didn't really post to FB via smart phones - or at least it wasn't regular practice. Heck, he may have not even owned a smart phone at that point. I didn't. I had a Blackberry for work and a Samsung flip phone for personal use. Also, she lived in BFE, so cell/Wifi access was probably non-existent.

If he posted that from home, it isn't likely that he is the perp, given the timeline, IMO. LE needs to release some of what they have on this guy to clear up the doubts. I fear they may have just honed in on him because he bragged about doing it, which is something stupid people do rather than evil, calculating perpetrators.

JMO

I have plenty of my own burning questions but I disagree that LE needs to release anything to to clear up any doubts that may exist among the general public. LE's job is not to convince the public at large that they have the right man. Their job is to gather evidence so the DA can convince a jury that they have the right man.

 

[Carla Lashelle]

Like I said, the family spokesperson said Karen wasn't there. So it boils down to an official source of info versus a friend of the suspect...

But, ultimately, I don't think any of the Coon Hunt whatever had any real bearing on what happened in the case. It would have happened if there was a coon hunt or not IMHO.

She isn't his drugged out buddy as far as I know and I see no reason for her to lie to the police.

Danielle Darnell, who grew up with Adams, revealed another connection between Adams and Bobo when she was interviewed by police last week.
Darnell says she told police that Bobo encountered Adams and friends out on a racoon hunt a week before her disappearance.

'Holly was on stage and walking around the coon hunt and they basically followed, stalked her a bit,' Darnell told WBBJ. 'Karen [Bobo] even went up and introduced herself as Holly's mom.'
Darnell says Adams made a few comments about Bobo in the past year to close friends, and that she and others reported the comments to the TBI.
'I do believe he is involved along with three others. I just know from things I've heard,' she said.


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[~n/t~]

Like I said, the family spokesperson said Karen wasn't there. So it boils down to an official source of info versus a friend of the suspect...

But, ultimately, I don't think any of the Coon Hunt whatever had any real bearing on what happened in the case. It would have happened if there was a coon hunt or not IMHO.

Didn't he say Holly wasn't there either? That's ok if you don't believe the coon hunt had anything to do with it. I do. Something happened.