Holly Bobo, missing from TN 2014 discussion #4 ***ARRESTS***

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  • #501
What you are saying basically is that since the evidence does not match the suspect, the evidence should be ignored?

I took from the quoted post that eye witness testimony is highly subjective and less trustworthy than other sorts of evidence and then gave an anecdote as to why she would likely not make a good eye witness in regards to someone's height.
 
  • #502
I am a short person, 5 feet tall. I cannot accurately guestimate the height of anyone taller than me because from my perspective you just cannot tell. Anyone taller than 5 feet to me has surpassed my ability to see their height accurately or nearly accurately. All I can do is say one person was/is taller than the other. So, the person in question's height estimate doesn't concern me.

I'm 4'11" and can stand under a clothesline to get out of the rain. I can't judge properly either lol.
 
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  • #504
My opinions only, no facts here:

I want to clear something up here.

The oft-repeated phrase that eyewitness accounts are unreliable is a myth. If this were true, life itself would become impossible for all of us. When you went to work you would not be able to recognize your boss, you could not identify your office, and you would not notice that the new employee is less than 5 feet tall or over 7 feet tall. You would not recognize your spouse when you got back home or a new bird's nest under the eaves of your house or a cold beer in your hand.

Eyewitness accounts weigh VERY heavily in criminal trials and civil trials. Yes, the prosecution will criticize those eyewitness accounts it does not like and the defense will do likewise. Also, in high-profile incidents where the powers-that-be have an agenda, there often are strong official efforts to discredit any and all witnesses.

Frankly, nothing beats an honest eyewitness.

If you were innocent of a crime and the prosecution were claiming that your DNA was all over the murder scene, wouldn't you like to have a couple eyewitnesses who factually can place you a thousand miles from the crime scene? If you were 5' 6", and accused of a crime, wouldn't you like an eyewitness who says the perpetrator was 6' 6" tall?

Eyewitness testimony becomes unreliable only when THE WRONG QUESTIONS ARE ASKED by authorities. If a witness claims that a suspect is five feet, 11 inches tall, ask them what additional item of known height did they use for scale? The answer will commonly be, nothing (so the height estimate becomes only a guess). But in some cases, the witness will say "they stood in a doorway" or "they stood next to a window" or "they stood next to a 5' 3" woman", etc.

Sleuth On!
 
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vhttp://www.newschannel5.com/story/25733037/authorities-not-commenting-on-possible-new-holly-bobo-evidencehttp://www.newschannel5.com/story/25733037/authorities-not-commenting-on-possible-new-holly-bobo-evidence
Possible new evidence in the Holly bobo case.
 
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vhttp://www.newschannel5.com/story/25733037/authorities-not-commenting-on-possible-new-holly-bobo-evidencehttp://www.newschannel5.com/story/25733037/authorities-not-commenting-on-possible-new-holly-bobo-evidence
Possible new evidence in the Holly bobo case.

Good Morning Everyone!:seeya:

This will be a drive by post today since I am very busy working outside.

But I wanted to comment on your linked article, Golden before I get back to work again.

This is one case where some of the rumors and gossip seems to have been true. "Over there" it has been said several times for sometime now that a video had been made, and now I think based on this article, it is true.:(

As everyone knows by now I have always felt that Holly was kidnapped to be raped and tortured by the A-Train and any of their followers.

I truly believe that Adams is worse than any monster we have seen in any horror movies. I firmly believe he kidnapped Holly and then contacted all of his 🤬🤬🤬 buddies to come over and have their way with Holly for days on end and they came in droves.:(

I cannot even begin to comprehend what Holly had to endure being attacked by these people that are worse than a pack of rabid animals.

I think the saying we have always heard may ring true in Holly's case. "Sometimes living is much harder to do than dying.' Holly knew she was never going home again. I think with death she knew that was the only way peace would come. God bless her sweet soul.:heart:

I hope and pray they round up everyone of these vile perverted sick monsters and ask for the death penalty for all of them. They do not deserve to breathe the same air as the Bobo family.

IMO
 
  • #509
Good Morning Everyone!:seeya:

This will be a drive by post today since I am very busy working outside.

But I wanted to comment on your linked article, Golden before I get back to work again.

This is one case where some of the rumors and gossip seems to have been true. "Over there" it has been said several times for sometime now that a video had been made, and now I think based on this article, it is true.:(

As everyone knows by now I have always felt that Holly was kidnapped to be raped and tortured by the A-Train and any of their followers.

I truly believe that Adams is worst than any monster we have seen in any horror movies. I firmly believe he kidnapped Holly and then contacted all of his 🤬🤬🤬 buddies to come over and have their way with Holly for days on end and they came in droves.:(

I cannot even begin to comprehend what Holly had to endure being attacked by these people that are worse than a pack of rabid animals.

I think the saying we have always heard may ring true in Holly's case. "Sometimes living is much harder to do than dying.' Holly knew she was never going home again. I think with death she knew that was the only way peace would come. God bless her sweet soul.:heart:

I hope and pray they round up everyone of these vile perverted sick monsters and ask for the death penalty for all of them. They do not deserve to breathe the same air as the Bobo family.

IMO

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  • #510
Good Morning Everyone!:seeya:

This will be a drive by post today since I am very busy working outside.

But I wanted to comment on your linked article, Golden before I get back to work again.

This is one case where some of the rumors and gossip seems to have been true. "Over there" it has been said several times for sometime now that a video had been made, and now I think based on this article, it is true.:(

As everyone knows by now I have always felt that Holly was kidnapped to be raped and tortured by the A-Train and any of their followers.

I truly believe that Adams is worse than any monster we have seen in any horror movies. I firmly believe he kidnapped Holly and then contacted all of his 🤬🤬🤬 buddies to come over and have their way with Holly for days on end and they came in droves.:(

I cannot even begin to comprehend what Holly had to endure being attacked by these people that are worse than a pack of rabid animals.

I think the saying we have always heard may ring true in Holly's case. "Sometimes living is much harder to do than dying.' Holly knew she was never going home again. I think with death she knew that was the only way peace would come. God bless her sweet soul.:heart:

I hope and pray they round up everyone of these vile perverted sick monsters and ask for the death penalty for all of them. They do not deserve to breathe the same air as the Bobo family.

IMO

When I saw this report last night, I thought of you and how it's been discussed that some sort of a video REALLY was made.

Thanks for this post~
 
  • #511
My opinions only, no facts here:

I want to clear something up here.

The oft-repeated phrase that eyewitness accounts are unreliable is a myth. If this were true, life itself would become impossible for all of us. When you went to work you would not be able to recognize your boss, you could not identify your office, and you would not notice that the new employee is less than 5 feet tall or over 7 feet tall. You would not recognize your spouse when you got back home or a new bird's nest under the eaves of your house or a cold beer in your hand.

Eyewitness accounts weigh VERY heavily in criminal trials and civil trials. Yes, the prosecution will criticize those eyewitness accounts it does not like and the defense will do likewise. Also, in high-profile incidents where the powers-that-be have an agenda, there often are strong official efforts to discredit any and all witnesses.

Frankly, nothing beats an honest eyewitness.

If you were innocent of a crime and the prosecution were claiming that your DNA was all over the murder scene, wouldn't you like to have a couple eyewitnesses who factually can place you a thousand miles from the crime scene? If you were 5' 6", and accused of a crime, wouldn't you like an eyewitness who says the perpetrator was 6' 6" tall?

Eyewitness testimony becomes unreliable only when THE WRONG QUESTIONS ARE ASKED by authorities. If a witness claims that a suspect is five feet, 11 inches tall, ask them what additional item of known height did they use for scale? The answer will commonly be, nothing (so the height estimate becomes only a guess). But in some cases, the witness will say "they stood in a doorway" or "they stood next to a window" or "they stood next to a 5' 3" woman", etc.

Sleuth On!

MOO-Eyewitness testimony needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Quick example. A person is rear ended by a tractor trailer. The person said they heard the screech of breaks before the actual impact. Question posed to the person "How much time elapsed from when you first heard the tires screeching to the time of impact?" Answer: "About a minute or so." Now, I would ask you to sit there and count to 60 seconds and ask yourself if that eyewitness testimony is even possible. Doesn't mean that you disregard all eyewitness testimony but you also have to take it with a grain of salt and understand that it is not infallible and there are often more inconsistencies than you would think.
 
  • #512
When I saw this report last night, I thought of you and how it's been discussed that some sort of a video REALLY was made.

Thanks for this post~

Ah, thank you Lyric.

OT:

Well that's it for my outside work today. The area I am working in has the full sun on it now so I will have to start again tomorrow when daylight comes. Its so terrible to get old in some ways and nice in other ways. The heat never bothered me but now it zaps me. It makes me realize I cant run with the big boys anymore like I have done most of my life.:scared:

Back on topic:

When I read the article the first case I thought about was Joseph Duncan's case when he videoed all the rapes and tortures he did to Shasta and Dylan Greone. I believe the video alone would have gotten him the death penalty and it sure is going to go a long way in this case.

What I also think about is those poor jurors who are going to have to look at this video of a young vibrant beautiful woman being tortured/beaten and raped and her life being taken away from her by these savages. It is like these damn creeps wanted to make a snuff film. :(

I truly hope each and every one of them burns in Hell!

IMO
 
  • #513
MOO-Eyewitness testimony needs to be taken with a grain of salt. Quick example. A person is rear ended by a tractor trailer. The person said they heard the screech of breaks before the actual impact. Question posed to the person "How much time elapsed from when you first heard the tires screeching to the time of impact?" Answer: "About a minute or so." Now, I would ask you to sit there and count to 60 seconds and ask yourself if that eyewitness testimony is even possible. Doesn't mean that you disregard all eyewitness testimony but you also have to take it with a grain of salt and understand that it is not infallible and there are often more inconsistencies than you would think.

Exactly. There is a world of difference between an alibi eyewitness and a eyewitness giving a description of events.
Years ago in one of my criminology courses, at the start of the lecture, a guy ran in, removed something from the professor's desk, and quickly ran out. Well, we were just in shock at what had occurred. Then our wise old professor starting asking questions. :)
We were a small class of 16, and not one of us agreed on the description of the guy, what he was wearing or even what item was taken. In fact, one student insisted the 'suspect' had spoken. The lesson that day was how eyewitness testimony is subjective. Hope I explained that right. I am not a very good story teller. And all is jmo and based on life experience.
 
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  • #515
Is this it?

Authorities Not Commenting On Possible New Holly Bobo Evidence

LEXINGTON, Tenn. - Officials with the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation are not commenting on the possible existence of a video that could possible be connected to the kidnapping of nursing student Holly Bobo.

Court documents obtained by NewsChannel 5 from Henderson County showed that on May 29, Jeffrey Kurt Pearcy was arrested and charged with Tampering with Evidence and Accessory After the Fact.

The affidavit said that Jeffrey Pearcy has a video on an electronic device, "that will prove to be beneficial in the prosecution of a current on-going investigation being conducted by the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation."

NewsChannel 5 also obtained court documents from Decatur County, which suggested another man, Mark Lynn Pearcy, may have also appeared in that video.

http://www.newschannel5.com/story/2...ommenting-on-possible-new-holly-bobo-evidence


Respectfully Snipped:

BBM: Whoa . . .

:twocents: Remember the presser when a reporter asked TBI about a "video" ?

Hmmm ... JMO but "where there is smoke there is a fire" ...


:seeya: Morning Y'all !

And THANKS for this update ... INTERESTING !

:moo:
 
  • #516
Respectfully Snipped:

BBM: Whoa . . .

:twocents: Remember the presser when a reporter asked TBI about a "video" ?

Hmmm ... JMO but where there is "smoke there is a fire" ...


:seeya: Morning Y'all !

And THANKS for this update ... INTERESTING !

:moo:

I remember that presser. We were all speculating about a possible video. You have a great memory, doggonecute.
'Over there' peeps have been talking about a video for some time. It has surprised me how so many of the things being discussed there have turned out to be true. I read there at times, but have never joined. The peeps over there are too mean. :fence:
 
  • #517
Respectfully Snipped:

BBM: Whoa . . .

:twocents: Remember the presser when a reporter asked TBI about a "video" ?

Hmmm ... JMO but "where there is smoke there is a fire" ...


:seeya: Morning Y'all !

And THANKS for this update ... INTERESTING !

:moo:

I believe there is a recording. When most people think of tape we usually think of videotape. But there are many ways to record events now and in the last three years. I have believed this since shortly before that presser. I have waited since for MSM to mention a video or tape.

This is the reason I have believed this: The day of the presser and previous court hearing, there was a picture of Zach standing there with his attorney. He was standing there like a scolded child and Thompson was shaking her finger at him. I will have to go find the photo but I believe we all remember it. There was a tweet that accompanied that photo either from the reporter or photographer in regard to Zach "confirming" a TBI "rumor" that a video existed. The tweet was taken down within a short time, but the photo remained. Therefor when I went back to link it I could not. I suppose because they were disclosing attorney/client conversation.

I think it was this reporter that asked at the presser about the video and all the air got sucked out of the room. IIRC she asked if there was a tape of the "rape and killing of Holly that existed". TBI and District Attorney tossed the question like a hot potato. The recording may only be the "party" and who was at the party and not the actual killing.

I believe the "video" IS the "witnesses".

JMO's
 
  • #518
Fixed that link to story about new evidence - Wow!

http://www.newschannel5.com/story/2...ommenting-on-possible-new-holly-bobo-evidence



This is definitely getting interesting!

I just wonder why we haven't heard of this other missing woman before. Perhaps she has been discussed here but I haven't seen her mentioned in any of the articles before.

Yes, it is getting interesting, Thought Fox.. Couple the Heather Sullivan abduction attempt in with this new info emerging, and previously raised red flags should be raised a little higher, imo. Imo, HB was not the A Train's first, last, or only innocent victim taken..


TBI looking to possible Adams connection to attempted abduction...
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WSMV‑TV

Zachary Adams (Photo from TN Dept. of Correction) ... Heather Sullivan claimed a man tried to abduct her
http://www.wsmv.com/story/24917906/tbi-looking-to-possible-adams-connection-to-attempted-kidnapping
 
  • #519
I believe there is a recording. When most people think of tape we usually think of videotape. But there are many ways to record events now and in the last three years. I have believed this since shortly before that presser. I have waited since for MSM to mention a video or tape.

This is the reason I have believed this: The day of the presser and previous court hearing, there was a picture of Zach standing there with his attorney. He was standing there like a scolded child and Thompson was shaking her finger at him. I will have to go find the photo but I believe we all remember it. There was a tweet that accompanied that photo either from the reporter or photographer in regard to Zach "confirming" a TBI "rumor" that a video existed. The tweet was taken down within a short time, but the photo remained. Therefor when I went back to link it I could not. I suppose because they were disclosing attorney/client conversation.

I think it was this reporter that asked at the presser about the video and all the air got sucked out of the room. IIRC she asked if there was a tape of the "rape and killing of Holly that existed". TBI and District Attorney tossed the question like a hot potato. The recording may only be the "party" and who was at the party and not the actual killing.

I believe the "video" IS the "witnesses".

JMO's


BBM: Yep ... I remember the look on their faces: like they got caught with their pants down ...

:moo:

:seeya:
 
  • #520
Fixed that link to story about new evidence - Wow!

http://www.newschannel5.com/story/2...ommenting-on-possible-new-holly-bobo-evidence



This is definitely getting interesting!

I just wonder why we haven't heard of this other missing woman before. Perhaps she has been discussed here but I haven't seen her mentioned in any of the articles before.

We haven't talked about her before.

This goes way back... there is also another couple of kids that are missing, that has to do with many players, or their relatives and even a wife of a murder suspect that she killed him in "self-defense". I have read a lot of these characters, when I first started reading about Pearls, Then there is another woman who is missing who was suppose to help LE and she was then "gone".

All of this in the same area.....the players keep changing but it's all murder.
 
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