Hoover & D. Casey Depos in Gonzales Case

[amethyst221]

In the beginning of the interviewing by police, Casey was shown a picture of ZFG and was asked... is this the nanny? ZFG? Casey said NO and signed the picture that she did not know who that person was. Essentially, this states that she did not have Caylee.
ZFG was asked to look at a picture of Casey and was asked.. do you know this person? She said no.. and signed it.

In my book, CASE CLOSED. ZFG was found by Fox news and asked to do an interview... she said yes and did it under the shadow.. if she did not want the attention.. she should not have done the interview. There are other ZFG's in FLORIDA and they are not suing.

Casey also states in the jail house video that ZFG was in her twenties with straight sometime curly hair. UMMMM ZFG that is 40 and has FAKE blond hair.. that does not sound like you.....:waitasec:

If she can't get a job (she was already living in a motel) then maybe she needs to work on that.

I am not for the Anthony's but I am sorry....

we all know Casey did it, Orlando knows Casey did it.. I do not think that ZFG could find 1 person in Orlando that thinks she killed Casey. She is suing for defamation right? Do we think this ZFG did this? Do you know ANYONE that thinks this particular ZFG killed Caylee? I bet not.. then I hereby state how can one be defamed if no one thinks you did anything? What about the other ZFG's????


So if she "proves" Casey did it through her "civil suit" and Casey shows that she said early on and signed a paper that the ZFG was not this ZFG then I do not see where Casey EVER said it was this PARTICULAR person.

I think using her civil case as a way to "get titalating juicy tidbits" about the murder case is not nessecary.. Why does she just not wait until the trial.. CASEY WILL BE CONVICTED????? She is not waiting because then it will prove she was not the one who killed Caylee.. and she will not have a case.

Now you can all burn me at the stake...

I don't want to burn you at the stake. I probably disagree with your interpretation of some of the "facts" and in my legal interpretations of how to prove a defamation claim, don't find the lawsuit wholly frivolous, and I'm not opposed in general to people using the courts for relief when that is necessary, obviously. I won't beat that dead horse again. I also don't have any illusion that the motives of the attorney who filed (not necessarily his client's) are mixed. He wants to explore the issues in the murder case, to the extent he can, and garner some publicity, perhaps, or help. I'd leave it to the SA's, though he doesn't have to. I personally, in the interest of my client's claims, would not have released the deposition transcripts of the witnesses so far, and would want the witnesses sequestered, to avoid their "harmonizing" their testimony. Even though the press and people like me have a prurient interest, I wouldn't do it this way.

 

[darlin gal]

I've only seen one small clip of an interview with both George and Cindy at the meet and greet and during that interview, I heard a cell phone ringing. No one answered it. I wondered then if perhaps it was either George or Cindy's phone and thought it odd that it was not answered, especially in light of all the live sightings being called in.
I have never heard anything discussed about Cindy using or not using a cell phone during the meet and greet. Is there a video of the whole event? I would be very interested in seeing that.

I personally believe that the whole "meet and greet" was staged to divert the media attention away from the Anthony home/area and to refocus it on the "meet and greet" so that the investigators could search/dig around the area without it being noticed/reported by anyone.

The minute they announced the meet and greet it sounded hinky and knowing what I know now, confirms it in my mind.

 

[bunnyphoenix1]

I just checked DC's website, and he now advertises to contact him with information regarding Haleigh...I feel sick. I hope someone lets the Cummings know about this, assuming they don't already.

 

[Searchfortruth]

In the beginning of the interviewing by police, Casey was shown a picture of ZFG and was asked... is this the nanny? ZFG? Casey said NO and signed the picture that she did not know who that person was. Essentially, this states that she did not have Caylee.
ZFG was asked to look at a picture of Casey and was asked.. do you know this person? She said no.. and signed it.

In my book, CASE CLOSED. ZFG was found by Fox news and asked to do an interview... she said yes and did it under the shadow.. if she did not want the attention.. she should not have done the interview. There are other ZFG's in FLORIDA and they are not suing.

Casey also states in the jail house video that ZFG was in her twenties with straight sometime curly hair. UMMMM ZFG that is 40 and has FAKE blond hair.. that does not sound like you.....:waitasec:

If she can't get a job (she was already living in a motel) then maybe she needs to work on that.

I am not for the Anthony's but I am sorry....

we all know Casey did it, Orlando knows Casey did it.. I do not think that ZFG could find 1 person in Orlando that thinks she killed Casey. She is suing for defamation right? Do we think this ZFG did this? Do you know ANYONE that thinks this particular ZFG killed Caylee? I bet not.. then I hereby state how can one be defamed if no one thinks you did anything? What about the other ZFG's????


So if she "proves" Casey did it through her "civil suit" and Casey shows that she said early on and signed a paper that the ZFG was not this ZFG then I do not see where Casey EVER said it was this PARTICULAR person.

I think using her civil case as a way to "get titalating juicy tidbits" about the murder case is not nessecary.. Why does she just not wait until the trial.. CASEY WILL BE CONVICTED????? She is not waiting because then it will prove she was not the one who killed Caylee.. and she will not have a case.

Now you can all burn me at the stake...

No burning at the stake from me. I have thought about the other ZG's and they all could have a potential lawsuit, IMO. I am no lawyer, so I can't say for sure, but just the fact that the Anthony camp has not taken back the "Zenaida took Caylee" mantra, none of them have denied that a Zenaida took Caylee, but we all know they are lying...hence, a potential defamation lawsuit could be brought by the others, IMO. Casey did tell LE that this ZG was not the "one" that took Caylee, but there are similarities...this is the only ZG that police went to after Caylee went missing, this was the only ZG that had actually visited the Sawgrass Apts, Casey said Zenaida took Caylee from Sawgrass, this ZG had NY tags on her car, Casey said the ZG that took Caylee was from NY and Miami. I can't remember any other similarities, but this ZG did receive a lot of threats on her Myspace page, threats from phone calls immediately after the story broke. When she first appeared on TV, channel 6 interview, she insisted they darken her face so that noone could see her face on TV, this doesn't sound like someone looking for fame, to me. I don't really care who takes Casey to court, Casey did throw a name out there and accused this ficticious person of kidnapping her child, Casey needs to pay for that. She is paying in criminal court and now in civil too, I am glad for that...it could be this ZG or another one, doesn't matter much to me, I am just glad someone is holding her accountable.

 

[Lanie]

In the beginning of the interviewing by police, Casey was shown a picture of ZFG and was asked... is this the nanny? ZFG? Casey said NO and signed the picture that she did not know who that person was. Essentially, this states that she did not have Caylee.
ZFG was asked to look at a picture of Casey and was asked.. do you know this person? She said no.. and signed it.

In my book, CASE CLOSED. Respectfully snipped for space.

Remember R. Kronk, the guy who found Caylee's remains? He was accused of kidnapping his ex-gf, or whatever, about 20 years ago. About 20 years later, he is interested in the case of a missing little girl, just like the 1,000 or so of us. He happens to find Caylee's remains, and this former accusation of kidnapping, which was dismissed, and which he is the one who was upfront enough to mention in the first place, is dragged out, and this man is crucified. "OMG, he's a kidnapper, he must be involved, he must know Casey, he must have put the body there himself....etc." I truly believe there are still a few people out there believing this carp.
10 or 20 years from now, long after most everyone has forgotten Casey said it wasn't this ZFG, blah, blah, blah, people are still going to be remembering this name, and that this name had something to do with the murder of a 2-year-old child.
JMO
Lanie

 

[Searchfortruth]

Also, it seems to me it's not just Casey that has the ability to throw a name out there, to accuse an innocent person of a horendous crime, her mother doesn't mind doing it too. Cindy wasn't afraid to point the finger at Jesse, Amy, Ricardo, whoever she could to take the blame off of her daughter. These are innocent, young people that did nothing wrong. You can't just go around accusing INNOCENT people of a serious crime to get the guilty person off (even if that guilty person is your daughter). These accusations were intentional, they were meant to derail the investigation away from Casey. What if the police actually believed that Jesse, or one of the others, was responsible for this crime ? Do you really think Casey or Cindy or the other Anthony's would step up to set the record straight ? I don't.

 

[ibyoungr]

IMO, this has a lot to do with the lawsuit in question.
According to Casey, Caylee was kidnapped by ZFG. If you follow this in a straight line, in December, when Caylee's body was found, who do you think put it there? Well, ZFG, of course, the person who kidnapped her. We have D. Casey searching right by the place Caylee's body ended up found, talking on the phone, claiming he was speaking to a psychic, yet that can't be backed up. So, again, going in a straight line, who would know where the body was a month before it was discovered by RK and reported to the police? Again, ZFG.
Now, we have Z(F)G saying, "Nope, didn't have anything to do with it, don't even know these people." Morgan, as her attorney, is out to prove this, and therefore prove her name has been dragged through the mud, so he needs to show who really was on the phone. One logical choice is Cindy A herself. If that is the case, what reason would D. Casey have to lie about it? Maybe they are having an affair.....
That is why Morgan is asking this stuff, and yes, at least IMO, it does pertain to this defamation lawsuit.
Lanie

But the police have it on record TWICE that this Casey did not KNOW or recognize this ZFG, ZFG did not recognize her and she is not 20 with straight or sometime curly hair. FACT-POLICE RECORD

Casey supposedly, maybe, possibly, assuming because she said SAWGRASS apts meant this ZFG specifically. ASSUMPTION ONLY

We also have shown here on WS that Kio has an aunt name ZG and there is a ZG down the street. The name ZG or ZFG was only used the first time on JULY 16th to the police. Other than ALL DOCUMENTATION PRIOR TO JUNE 16th has Casey calling the nanny ZANNY/ZANI..NOT ZENAIDA... I think she pulled Zenaida outta her A$$$ because it sounded most like ZANI and she knew the police would not buy the name ZANI. She pulled NY, NC and Puerto Rico outta her A$$ because she wanted to go there. She pulled Sawgrass outta her A$$ because she was recently looking at apts and had friends who lived there previously.

To the real ZFG... so was your nickname Zani.. for 2 years? Did you live at Sawgrass Apt 210... do you have a puppy? Were you in Cocoa Beach in July? Were you in the hospital?
Do you have Cell phone pings on the date in question that shows Casey was at Sawgrass? What actual physical proof do you have that puts Casey at Sawgrass to read your license plates?


Whoops.. guess not.. sorry not you that Casey was talking about.. because that ZFG does not exist.

 

[Chilly Willy]

Remember R. Kronk, the guy who found Caylee's remains? He was accused of kidnapping his ex-gf, or whatever, about 20 years ago. About 20 years later, he is interested in the case of a missing little girl, just like the 1,000 or so of us. He happens to find Caylee's remains, and this former accusation of kidnapping, which was dismissed, and which he is the one who was upfront enough to mention in the first place, is dragged out, and this man is crucified. "OMG, he's a kidnapper, he must be involved, he must know Casey, he must have put the body there himself....etc." I truly believe there are still a few people out there believing this carp.
10 or 20 years from now, long after most everyone has forgotten Casey said it wasn't this ZFG, blah, blah, blah, people are still going to be remembering this name, and that this name had something to do with the murder of a 2-year-old child.
JMO
Lanie

Kronk is one who, IMO, has a legitimate case for a lawsuit. Not only was a finger pointed directly at him, it was done repeatedly on national TV by someone who claimed to have inside knowledge of the case.

Not one person pointed a finger at this particular ZFG.

 

[LancelotLink]

I personally believe that the whole "meet and greet" was staged to divert the media attention away from the Anthony home/area and to refocus it on the "meet and greet" so that the investigators could search/dig around the area without it being noticed/reported by anyone.

The minute they announced the meet and greet it sounded hinky and knowing what I know now, confirms it in my mind.

I agree whole-heartedly!!

 

[Chilly Willy]

Also, it seems to me it's not just Casey that has the ability to throw a name out there, to accuse an innocent person of a horendous crime, her mother doesn't mind doing it too. Cindy wasn't afraid to point the finger at Jesse, Amy, Ricardo, whoever she could to take the blame off of her daughter. These are innocent, young people that did nothing wrong. You can't just go around accusing INNOCENT people of a serious crime to get the guilty person off (even if that guilty person is your daughter). These accusations were intentional, they were meant to derail the investigation away from Casey. What if the police actually believed that Jesse, or one of the others, was responsible for this crime ? Do you really think Casey or Cindy or the other Anthony's would step up to set the record straight ? I don't.

Cindy had an obligation to share with LE the names of anyone she thought might be involved in the disappearance of her granddaughter. LE wasn't about to arrest anyone based soley on Cindy's suspicions.

 

[whiteangora]

I am not surprised. From what I can tell, he's been about the only one of the A team that has been forthcoming with police (even if not as quickly as he could have been). I don't think he is facing any possible charges, or has done anything wrong, so he probably doesn't need a lawyer for this sort of thing at all.

I agree. Hoover has proven to be a true gem for the prosecution.
If it weren't for him, nobody would have even known about Dominic Casey and his disgusting prodding into the soil for a body. If it is discovered that Cindy was on the other end of his phone, it will be HUGE for the state. Then maybe people would want some answers for all of the out of state Caylee sightings and the donations taken under false pretenses.

 

[ibyoungr]

Remember R. Kronk, the guy who found Caylee's remains? He was accused of kidnapping his ex-gf, or whatever, about 20 years ago. About 20 years later, he is interested in the case of a missing little girl, just like the 1,000 or so of us. He happens to find Caylee's remains, and this former accusation of kidnapping, which was dismissed, and which he is the one who was upfront enough to mention in the first place, is dragged out, and this man is crucified. "OMG, he's a kidnapper, he must be involved, he must know Casey, he must have put the body there himself....etc." I truly believe there are still a few people out there believing this carp.
10 or 20 years from now, long after most everyone has forgotten Casey said it wasn't this ZFG, blah, blah, blah, people are still going to be remembering this name, and that this name had something to do with the murder of a 2-year-old child.
JMO
Lanie

Roy Kronk name will be mostly related to FINDING CAYLEE.. for the few moron's that believe that carp.. are just that MORONS. Everybody that watches this on the news KNOWS Casey did it because of the 31 day, smell in the trunk, etc...
If the real ZFG would not have voluntarily went on tv, and filed a civil suit..she would be thought of as about as much as the the other ZG's that were interviewed... betcha can't even tell me what they look like.

You state:
"long after most everyone has forgotten Casey said it wasn't this ZFG, blah, blah, blah, people are still going to be remembering this name, and that this name had something to do with the murder of a 2-year-old child. "


Nah.. in twenty years.. they will only remember the crazy screwed up mother's name was Casey.

People may remember a "Zani" or even a "Zenaida".. or even a "Roy".... but the average person and the majority of the population.. does even pay attention to this case now. Not every one follows this case as closely as we do. If they did remember.. they would remember that.. just a name... I did follow the OJ trial.. what the heck was the guy's name that was killed with Nicole Brown and what was the name of the gal that was recently released that hid out for years and was in the group that kidnapped Patty Hearst?

I knew of these trials.. can't remember names...

 

[Manny]

...and until we see/hear CA's depo we may not know what the connection is...or where his thinking is leading.

Maybe he is planning on writing a book and wants lots of juicy details... I have no idea why he asks the questions he does or why he thinks it is his job to "solve the case" to prove ZG didn't do it. Everybody already knows that.sheezzzz:furious:.

 

[momtective]

I just checked DC's website, and he now advertises to contact him with information regarding Haleigh...I feel sick. I hope someone lets the Cummings know about this, assuming they don't already.

He's been there for weeks! I thought everyone already knew that.

 

[ibyoungr]

Cindy had an obligation to share with LE the names of anyone she thought might be involved in the disappearance of her granddaughter. LE wasn't about to arrest anyone based soley on Cindy's suspicions.

ITA, She was asked.. she answered and at any rate.. Jesse G probably even has more of a case than ZFG...because she directly pointed to him.. A REAL PERSON.

Honestly, if this ZFG would have NOT went on TV and filed a lawsuit.. herself as a person would not be even recognizable on the street. She would have been even a smaller bleep on the radar than Roy Kronk.

Both of them could have declined interviews on national tv. Ummm, I do not see this KW on tv or even Casey's friends who are being displayed on national tv kissing her filing suit.... that there seems worse to me.

 

[MarleneM]

<snipped for space> People may remember a "Zani" or even a "Zenaida".. or even a "Roy".... but the average person and the majority of the population.. does even pay attention to this case now. Not every one follows this case as closely as we do. If they did remember.. they would remember that.. just a name... I did follow the OJ trial.. what the heck was the guy's name that was killed with Nicole Brown and what was the name of the gal that was recently released that hid out for years and was in the group that kidnapped Patty Hearst?

I knew of these trials.. can't remember names...

Wow.

That "guy's" name was Ronald Goldman, a innocent promising young man butchered and wasted for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I haven't read-up on the OJ case since it's verdict was announced many years ago and I didn't even have to look that up. I remember him, and I still feel for him when I do.

:tsktsk: I think your reference to him is harsh just to prove a point about what you perceive to be a 'frivilous' lawsuit in this case.

 

[Searchfortruth]

Cindy had an obligation to share with LE the names of anyone she thought might be involved in the disappearance of her granddaughter. LE wasn't about to arrest anyone based soley on Cindy's suspicions.

No, LE wasn't going to believe Cindy, it was easy to tell what she was trying to do with the "red flags" and "clues". Had she been less obvious and more skilled at placing blame, LE might have followed her lead, and that is a dangerous thought, IMO.

 

[Searchfortruth]

Video is up
http://www.wftv.com/news/19011434/detail.html

 

[Amster]

And if, in Hoover's opinion, Cindy and DC were a bit too touchy-feely, what does that prove?

Maybe.....pillow talk?

 

[Chilly Willy]

No, LE wasn't going to believe Cindy, it was easy to tell what she was trying to do with the "red flags" and "clues". Had she been less obvious and more skilled at placing blame, LE might have followed her lead, and that is a dangerous thought, IMO.

You truly don't give LE any more credit than that? You think, if Cindy had been better 'skilled' they would have arrested Jesse for kidnapping without one shred of evidence against him, while disregarding the evidence they had against Casey?