Hoover & D. Casey Depos in Gonzales Case

[karenmamo]

Maybe he is planning on writing a book and wants lots of juicy details... I have no idea why he asks the questions he does or why he thinks it is his job to "solve the case" to prove ZG didn't do it. Everybody already knows that.sheezzzz:furious:.

Ok...going out on a limb again. The questions he is asking are to get into record lots of words. Every person he deposes is a potential witness in the trial coming. He is sly...he is shrewd. He is crafting all questions carefully for each individual.
Being deposed by Morgan is a walk in a park for all who are truthful.
Notice, however, that a couple of folks scattered like roaches with a light turned on.
All part of the plan, all part of the plan.....is that limb still holding...
It can never be proven that Morgan's main intent was NOT to defend ZFG...that was just a convenience that dropped into his lap.

 

[Searchfortruth]

You truly don't give LE any more credit than that? You think, if Cindy had been better 'skilled' they would have arrested Jesse for kidnapping without one shred of evidence against him, while disregarding the evidence they had against Casey?

Did I say arrested ? I wish you would read my post more carefully.

 

[Chilly Willy]

Maybe.....pillow talk?

LOL. Unless Hoover was there with his trusty video camera I doubt he would have any idea what, if any, pillow talk may have taken place between Cindy and DC. I think it was a totally irrelevant question and that Morgan was completely out of line in asking it. Morgan is still, IMO, playing for the Anthony hating audience.

 

[Chilly Willy]

Did I say arrested ? I wish you would read my post more carefully.

Please clarify then, please I'm not understanding. Where is the danger in Cindy sharing her suspicions with LE? I would do the same thing under the circumstances. What if she had been right?

 

[whiteangora]

Ok...going out on a limb again. The questions he is asking are to get into record lots of words. Every person he deposes is a potential witness in the trial coming. He is sly...he is shrewd. He is crafting all questions carefully for each individual.
Being deposed by Morgan is a walk in a park for all who are truthful.
Notice, however, that a couple of folks scattered like roaches with a light turned on.
All part of the plan, all part of the plan.....is that limb still holding...
It can never be proven that Morgan's main intent was NOT to defend ZFG...that was just a convenience that dropped into his lap.

bold,me

I am so thankful that Morgan is not Casey's attorney.
He is very sharp and never misses a beat.....what a real
Attorney should be. I just love him.

 

[Lanie]

But the police have it on record TWICE that this Casey did not KNOW or recognize this ZFG, ZFG did not recognize her and she is not 20 with straight or sometime curly hair. FACT-POLICE RECORD

Casey supposedly, maybe, possibly, assuming because she said SAWGRASS apts meant this ZFG specifically. ASSUMPTION ONLY

Respectfully snipped for space.

ZG works as a maid in people's homes.
Were my children still young, I would not be setting playdates for them with the twins of Gerry and Kate McCann.
There is not enough money in the world for me to ever have considered letting my children play at Michael Jackson's Neverland.
If one of my daughters expressed an interest in dating Drew Peterson, I would personally kidnap her and take her out of the country until she came to her senses.
I am simply not willing to take the chance. ASSUMPTION or not, it is what it is.
You can go back in these threads, and you will find lots of speculation this specific ZG was involved in what happened to Caylee. I remember posts tracing this myspace to that myspace, looking for some common denominator between this specific ZG and Casey. Not everyone has followed this case all these months. People hear this on the news, think it is interesting for a time, then move on. (Hard to believe, huh?) It is very reasonable to think this specific woman's name is going to be tied to what happened to Caylee for years and years to come.
So she shows up to clean my house. Was she or wasn't she involved? Well, I don't know, and I guess I could go to all the trouble to look up the files from the police, but why bother, and why take the chance, especially if I have small children? I can just hire another housekeeper, it's not like they are rare and/or hard to come by.
Lanie

 

[Searchfortruth]

Please clarify then, please I'm not understanding. Where is the danger in Cindy sharing her suspicions with LE? I would do the same thing under the circumstances. What if she had been right?

IMO, key words...in my opinion, Cindy was not sharing her suspicions with LE, she was trying to derail or direct the investigation away from her daughter. This opinion I have gathered from watching the various LE interviews. Even JA stated that Cindy wanted to tell them how to run their investigation. Honest suspicions are one thing, IMO, her "red flags", Zanny is Amy or Zanny is Jesse, goes beyond honest suspicions. I do not, for one minute, think she really thought Jesse or Amy or Ricardo kidnapped Caylee, you may and that is your right, but I think she knew exactly who "kidnapped" and murdered her Granddaughter.

 

[Chilly Willy]

IMO, key words...in my opinion, Cindy was not sharing her suspicions with LE, she was trying to derail or direct the investigation away from her daughter. This opinion I have gathered from watching the various LE interviews. Even JA stated that Cindy wanted to tell them how to run their investigation. Honest suspicions are one thing, IMO, her "red flags", Zanny is Amy or Zanny is Jesse, goes beyond honest suspicions. I do not, for one minute, think she really thought Jesse or Amy or Ricardo kidnapped Caylee, you may and that is your right, but I think she knew exactly who "kidnapped" and murdered her Granddaughter.

When Cindy said she has come to realize that ZFG was Amy or Jesse, what she was saying is that she realized that when Caylee was with Amy or Jesse, Casey was telling her that Caylee was with Zanny. That's not accusing anyone, except Casey, of anything.

 

[Amster]

LOL. Unless Hoover was there with his trusty video camera I doubt he would have any idea what, if any, pillow talk may have taken place between Cindy and DC. I think it was a totally irrelevant question and that Morgan was completely out of line in asking it. Morgan is still, IMO, playing for the Anthony hating audience.

Well....he sure has a HUMONGOUS audience if that's true!

 

[Chilly Willy]

Respectfully snipped for space.

ZG works as a maid in people's homes.
Were my children still young, I would not be setting playdates for them with the twins of Gerry and Kate McCann.
There is not enough money in the world for me to ever have considered letting my children play at Michael Jackson's Neverland.
If one of my daughters expressed an interest in dating Drew Peterson, I would personally kidnap her and take her out of the country until she came to her senses.
I am simply not willing to take the chance. ASSUMPTION or not, it is what it is.
You can go back in these threads, and you will find lots of speculation this specific ZG was involved in what happened to Caylee. I remember posts tracing this myspace to that myspace, looking for some common denominator between this specific ZG and Casey. Not everyone has followed this case all these months. People hear this on the news, think it is interesting for a time, then move on. (Hard to believe, huh?) It is very reasonable to think this specific woman's name is going to be tied to what happened to Caylee for years and years to come.
So she shows up to clean my house. Was she or wasn't she involved? Well, I don't know, and I guess I could go to all the trouble to look up the files from the police, but why bother, and why take the chance, especially if I have small children? I can just hire another housekeeper, it's not like they are rare and/or hard to come by.
Lanie

I may be wrong, but I seem to recall that ZFG worked as a maid for a motel, not as a private maid in people's homes. She was unemployed and homeless when Caylee went missing. Casey's accusations did not cause her to lose her job or her home. She was offered work, according to one of the TV stations that interviewed her, yet, as we are all aware, she is still not working.

There's no reason, at least none having to do with Casey, why she can't go back to cleaning hotel rooms. How many people ask the hotel housekeeper what her name is?

 

[MarleneM]

Please clarify then, please I'm not understanding. Where is the danger in Cindy sharing her suspicions with LE? I would do the same thing under the circumstances. What if she had been right?

The problem I have with CA sharing her suspicions of KC's friends was her timing. At the point of her implications to LE about them CA still wasn't owning up to the problems she had with KC in the weeks leading up to Caylee's 'disappearance'. CA made KC out to be "mother-of-the-year", and it took her own mother Shirley to let LE in on the serious drama CA was dealing with in her own home. I don't fault CA for throwing out possibilities, I only fault her for managing to not include KC in with the lot of them.

 

[Chilly Willy]

Well....he sure has a HUMONGOUS audience if that's true!

Yes, he does.

 

[Searchfortruth]

When Cindy said she has come to realize that ZFG was Amy or Jesse, what she was saying is that she realized that when Caylee was with Amy or Jesse, Casey was telling her that Caylee was with Zanny. That's not accusing anyone, except Casey, of anything.

Do you know that was what she was saying, for a fact, or is that your opinion ?

 

[smolea]

Totally O/T but this Hoover guy talks really weird. He reminds me alot of the Perfect Date Video Bobby Batronic...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ets0xkUk17Y

I can't help but giggle:laughitup:

 

[Chilly Willy]

Do you know that was what she was saying, for a fact, or is that your opinion ?

It is my opinion that what Cindy said is very clear when the entire interview is listened to instead of the bits and pieces that get taken out of context and twisted.

 

[bunnyphoenix1]

He's been there for weeks! I thought everyone already knew that.

I had no idea...wow.

 

[Searchfortruth]

It is my opinion that what Cindy said is very clear when the entire interview is listened to instead of the bits and pieces that get taken out of context and twisted.

Oh I have listened to those interviews, start to finish, several times. I just wanted to know if that was your opinion, so thank you for sharing that with me. Different people can watch the same movie and come away with different takes, opinions on it. If someone has a different opinion than yours it doesn't mean they haven't seen the whole movie, but only that they came away with a different impression.

 

[bunnyphoenix1]

Wow.

That "guy's" name was Ronald Goldman, a innocent promising young man butchered and wasted for being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I haven't read-up on the OJ case since it's verdict was announced many years ago and I didn't even have to look that up. I remember him, and I still feel for him when I do.

:tsktsk: I think your reference to him is harsh just to prove a point about what you perceive to be a 'frivilous' lawsuit in this case.

I agree. I don't think people will forget him too quickly. And most people only know the headlines from the news re this case, and years later it will become blurry, and some will be saying "roy kronk, wasn't he that guy involved in the caylee murder/kidnapping?". People still crack "the dingo took my baby" jokes, and everyone remembers her being ridiculed for that claim, but everyone forgets her conviction was overturned and she was exonerated, and dingos have taken many babies since. So, it is no joke...but people only remember it in a vague sort of way and still find the claim humorous.

ETA. I also remember Ron Goldman. The poor guy. And I feel very sorry for his family.

 

[Lanie]

Kronk is one who, IMO, has a legitimate case for a lawsuit. Not only was a finger pointed directly at him, it was done repeatedly on national TV by someone who claimed to have inside knowledge of the case.

Not one person pointed a finger at this particular ZFG.

Bolded by me.

Now, come on, Chilly, I know I have seen you on these threads from pretty much the start. There was a lot of finger pointing at this particular ZFG.
Casey knows what happened to Caylee, and she knows it doesn't have anything to do with ZFG. IMO, she used this ZFG as her model, then changed a couple of the details. This woman will now carry this with her for the rest of her life, unless she moves away and changes her name, and even then it might come back and bite her in the butt. I personally think this country is lawsuit happy, but in this case, I think this woman is entitled to a chance to clear her name. God forbid Casey should get acquitted of this crime, as IMO, I think this will just make it worse for poor ZFG.
Lanie

 

[Chilly Willy]

Bolded by me.

Now, come on, Chilly, I know I have seen you on these threads from pretty much the start. There was a lot of finger pointing at this particular ZFG.
Casey knows what happened to Caylee, and she knows it doesn't have anything to do with ZFG. IMO, she used this ZFG as her model, then changed a couple of the details. This woman will now carry this with her for the rest of her life, unless she moves away and changes her name, and even then it might come back and bite her in the butt. I personally think this country is lawsuit happy, but in this case, I think this woman is entitled to a chance to clear her name. God forbid Casey should get acquitted of this crime, as IMO, I think this will just make it worse for poor ZFG.
Lanie

I'll concede that. There was a lot of finger pointing at this ZG, but it didn't come from Casey or the A's. It came from bloggers and the media. Perhaps it might be more appropriate for ZG to sue those people.

There were very few details about this ZG and the imaginanny that actually matched....just the Sawgrass connection and the name. There's even some question about whether the names are the same. A great number of details say this woman is NOT the woman Casey accused.

It's unfortunate that ZG/ZFG's name is the same as that Casey gave to LE, but Casey also specifically said that this woman is not the kidnapper.