How Did The PI's Get The Remains Spot...

[ecs5298]

I think I should change my vote to the code speak between LA and KC. I think that got them to the general areal. Then by JB kiting letters to LA, they were able narrow it down to "closer to Hopespring" , look for 3 rocks, etc.

 

[impatientredhead]

Okay here is my take on the PI-

DC knew things about the location of the body and what to look for that only the person who placed her there would know.

He worked for JB and met personally with Casey as early as August.

When the remains were found in December JB could not have been any clearer that he already knew the remains were Caylee's.

Casey has told her defense team what might be found and where.

What was Baez's intention? I will give him the benefit of the doubt with regards to ethical standards and assume that he was accumulating what facts might surface so he can plan a defense.

DC on the other hand to me seemed to be there either to get the finding of the body on video for later money making use, or was there with the intent of removing said evidence when he found it.

I am not sure JB knew they were there in November until the rumors started swirling. He definitely knew the body that was found there was Caylee's before any confirmation came in officially, and he was very clear that DC had privileged information that he didn't want shared with LE.

 

[Jay D]

I'll just throw this in here for thought. KC dumped the bag, most of us agree. There is no evidence of the bag ever being buried. So if KC gave info to DC or JB, why the probes and shovel? Surely she didn't tell them it was buried. If she did give them info, it seems that she wasn't very specific, which leads me to believe another source.

I actually think that JH came to the conclusion that spot would be a good place to look based on AL's statement that he was there when Casey ran out of gas. I don't think that had much to do with DC's search other than reinforce whatever information DC got from the person who told him about black garbage bags and three rocks.

This thought makes a lot of sense to me and jives with what I posted last eve in the PI thread.
But I'm not secure enough in my theory to actually vote in this thread!:waitasec: Gosh, it gets confusing.

 

[SuziQ]

Me too !!.....however, KC sure likes that ZG name, how odd the neighbors closest to the remains site share these names ??

That is soooo weird. Not that I think the ZG story is valid. But you start seeing a pattern of how KC took bits and pieces out of the life of those that surround her and wove them into her lies.

 

[SuziQ]

Baez never said that it would not be in Casey's favor to have Caylee found. He did say something about it would not be in her best interests to tell her story, (I am assuming he meant what happened to Caylee,) but that was several months ago, when they were still saying Caylee was alive.
Baez might have wanted the PI's to videotape that area to prove Caylee's remains were NOT there. But I doubt seriously that he was told by Casey where the remains were and then told the PI's. Remember, the PI's did not work for Baez in Nov., they worked for the Anthonys.
I do not believe that the Anthonys... any of them... knew where Caylee's body was all this time and did nothing about it. If anything they would have gone and retrieved her in the dead of night and buried her in private. There is no way in the world Cindy or George would have let that child's body lay out there in the woods and rot for months... not even to protect Casey. I jut don't buy that at all.

As far as we know, that could have been the intention of the search. The fact that they couldn't find Caylee would have put a kink into that plan. What the intention was depends on who DC was doing the search for. There are so many possibilities. And if Baez was behind it, he would be crazy to admit he paid DC to do the search and claim attorney client priveledges. It would have brought a hammer down on him and his client. Baez's only option was to file a motion to be present when LE questioned DC, claim atty client priviledge prior to Oct 1st, and hope for the best. JMO of course.

 

[SuziQ]

I'll just throw this in here for thought. KC dumped the bag, most of us agree. There is no evidence of the bag ever being buried. So if KC gave info to DC or JB, why the probes and shovel? Surely she didn't tell them it was buried. If she did give them info, it seems that she wasn't very specific, which leads me to believe another source.

This thought makes a lot of sense to me and jives with what I posted last eve in the PI thread.
But I'm not secure enough in my theory to actually vote in this thread!:waitasec: Gosh, it gets confusing.

Lol, I keep finding holes in my theories big enough to drive a bus through. I'm really stuck until I know who was behind the search. One thing I do know is, the search was based on info that was way too specific and IMO, would only come from someone inside. It wasn't a vague tip from the public or related to Kio or AL's statement that KC ran out of gas there. None of them would have known about a specific configuration of three rocks.

 

[nursebeeme]

http://www.wftv.com/video/18440731/index.html

around 1300 into this raw interview the atty for Hoover says "someone knew where the body could be found" (meaning the someone who tipped to DC) He kinda slipped up when he said this because earlier in the interview..........:

When Kathy Belich asked did someone tell DC where the body was the atty said I cannot confirm this at this time

Leads me to believe that Hoover did in fact share this with LE and explains what was overheard at the SA table during the hearing on the photos (that they were looking for landmarks)

Also Hoovers atty said that Padilla was wrong and when asked why Hoover hadn't come forward sooner he said that there are so many people using this case as a way to get in front of cameras that the other integral parts of the case have a harder time fitting together.

 

[b1c2]

My vote is Baez as I think telling where the body was hidden was paramount to the plea bargain we heard was on the table. Before JB would agree to the plea bargain he wanted to be certain that KC was telling the truth and not yanking his chain as she so obviously does. So, he sent the PIs out to make certain it was where she said it was and when it wasn't, the plea was purposely held up by the defense until they could get to the bottom of it. The last thing JB would want is KC saying "yes, the body is here" and it not be there. Then the plea goes bye-bye and KC basically admits she is a killer. Hard to defend against that. This, of course, is just moo/wag.

 

[tangerinemoon]

IMO, it's possible it was overheard while Casey (Caylee's mom) was at Baez's office, since the PI went to the area AFTER he resigned from working for Baez in October.

That's another excellent possibilty.

 

[Boston]

She says not only is he not invited but if he shows up he will not be let in

After everything he's said about that family I can't blame them for trying to keep him away.

And this is probably the only thing I've ever sided with the Anthony's about.

 

[nursebeeme]

if it WAS Baez giving DC this info does anyone know how LE would go about investigating if it came from Casey? Would that be privledged and inadmissible since remains were never found by the PIs?

Either way, circumstantially it will be more great fodder for the proseution... to show the private investigator for the As out poking with shovels and probes right next to where the body was later found

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Lol, I keep finding holes in my theories big enough to drive a bus through. I'm really stuck until I know who was behind the search. One thing I do know is, the search was based on info that was way too specific and IMO, would only come from someone inside. It wasn't a vague tip from the public or related to Kio or AL's statement that KC ran out of gas there. None of them would have known about a specific configuration of three rocks.

Were there 3 rocks where Caylee was found tho? In those photos, I have not seen any.

 

[Boston]

I think Casey always intended on going back & moving the body to another location far away from her home.

When Cindy called 911, Casey knew she had left too much evidence behind & she probably expected that the body would be found as soon as the first search was conducted in that area.

As time went by & nobody found Caylee I think Casey became desperate to have somebody .."Get Caylee out of there" before she was found.

The entire defense rested on the claim that Caylee was alive & without a body they would actually have an outside shot at an acquittal.

Is it possible that Casey told Cindy & George where she hid the body & because of all the activity around the Anthony home (Protesters, News, LE) they just never had the opportunity to send the PI's down there to look until november.?

 

[LancelotLink]

I seem to recall Sept 2 being mentioned as another date that D Casey went to that same area. Does anyone recall who said this? I was thinking it was during the interview with Hoover and his lawyer.

 

[nursebeeme]

Were there 3 rocks where Caylee was found tho? In those photos, I have not seen any.

http://www.wftv.com/video/18450209/index.html
SS, go to around 1:30

 

[jennyb]

I think Casey always intended on going back & moving the body to another location far away from her home.

When Cindy called 911, Casey knew she had left too much evidence behind & she probably expected that the body would be found as soon as the first search was conducted in that area.

As time went by & nobody found Caylee I think Casey became desperate to have somebody .."Get Caylee out of there" before she was found.

The entire defense rested on the claim that Caylee was alive & without a body they would actually have an outside shot at an acquittal.

Is it possible that Casey told Cindy & George where she hid the body & because of all the activity around the Anthony home (Protesters, News, LE) they just never had the opportunity to send the PI's down there to look until november.?

I agree. I also feel that someone in the family took the step to place the pavers as a guide for the PI's. Most likely LA, even though it was a risky move, I believe one of them did it and physically and emotionally he was probably the most up to the task. He also would be the most likely to understand where KC was pointing to the body, in a backwards kind of way. Just my opinion.

 

[jennyb]

Unless of course, as some here have theorized, JB and the PI's were communicating via internet images brought into the jail on his laptop for KC's input, to narrow down the site. I think I count 5 times in total that DC was at that spot. Lots of give and take there, if JB was able to pull that off in the jail setting. I don't know. Another incredibly risky move.

 

[panthera]

I think Casey always intended on going back & moving the body to another location far away from her home.

When Cindy called 911, Casey knew she had left too much evidence behind & she probably expected that the body would be found as soon as the first search was conducted in that area.

As time went by & nobody found Caylee I think Casey became desperate to have somebody .."Get Caylee out of there" before she was found.

The entire defense rested on the claim that Caylee was alive & without a body they would actually have an outside shot at an acquittal.

Is it possible that Casey told Cindy & George where she hid the body & because of all the activity around the Anthony home (Protesters, News, LE) they just never had the opportunity to send the PI's down there to look until november.?

I agree with your theory, Boston! I don't think she told her parents though but my inclination is more toward her telling her brother whether it was just the 'code' she gave him or maybe telling him exactly when she was home on house arrest. If anything though I don't think anybody wanted Caylee to be found and maybe he didn't have a chance to go move Caylee, with all the media attention, then the flooding. I think when the PIs were at the site in November it was to say "she isn't here". MOO

 

[SuziQ]

Were there 3 rocks where Caylee was found tho? In those photos, I have not seen any.

I don't know if we've seen pics of the exact spot Caylee was found though. And if the CSI techs didn't know the significants of the rocks, they could have been moved. Also, I've heard the rocks referred to as pavers. Maybe that's what led LE back to the A's house? So really, I have no answer for you. lol.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

http://www.wftv.com/video/18450209/index.html
SS, go to around 1:30

Thanks, NeeBee! I did see that part, but it makes me wonder where or even if they came into play at the actual site.