How?

[camillllla]

Ok, this girl has got to be kidding us. Investigate? Ok, how did she investigate this? I wanna know.

Darlie Fan? FAN? Are you kidding me? You guys know that I like many of the supporters, but FAN????????????????

Heck all the supporters I know of at least hold some harbored doubt.

DarlieFan, tell you what....I don't think you have any idea how to investigate this case. If you think you do, please share it with me.

Dasgal, I was thinking the very same thing... ...FAN???
But since Im a newbie here I didnt want to be the first one to say anything. :silenced: :chicken:

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[cami]

Gosh, I didn't know so many people hadn't read it. I will get on it right away.

Well, what did we learn, LOL. Two black guys? What happened to the guy she saw walking away from her when she, cough, cough, woke up?

 

[mollymalone]

Dasgal, I was thinking the very same thing... ...FAN???
But since Im a newbie here I didnt want to be the first one to say anything. :silenced: :chicken:

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There's been a lot of "fan" sites being set up for convicted murderers. SP now has "fan listings." There's something terribly wrong with that concept. These are not rock stars or celebrities. They are murderers. To be a fan of a murderer says quite a lot about the fan. IMO

 

[mollymalone]

I can't get over the similarities between Darlie and Mac the knife. Jongalt did a really good comparison years ago on Stark's website. You can read it here

Thanks! It really is a good comparison. With a few changes it could fit Diane Downs too, and probably other cases. Darlie did say they "had a few words" which to many means a verbal fight,but she sure made sure she said that everything was okay.

 

[Yellowrose]

You're absolutely right, SP is nothing but a cold blooded murderer, just look at him, you don't even have to follow that case. He's guilty as sin. He probably didn't want to pay child support and alimony. So he chose murder. He was a SPOILED creep and his mother is a JO, AHOE, just like him, and I do mean AHOE.

There's been a lot of "fan" sites being set up for convicted murderers. SP now has "fan listings." There's something terribly wrong with that concept. These are not rock stars or celebrities. They are murderers. To be a fan of a murderer says quite a lot about the fan. IMO

 

[cami]

You're absolutely right, SP is nothing but a cold blooded murderer, just look at him, you don't even have to follow that case. He's guilty as sin. He probably didn't want to pay child support and alimony. So he chose murder. He was a SPOILED creep and his mother is a JO, AHOE, just like him, and I do mean AHOE.

I watched that case and trial very closely. To see a sociopath at work just fascinated me. The havoc they wreck on those close to them. We've read about it so much--Diane Downs, Darlie, MacDonald, etc., this time we were right in the middle of it observing-well as much as possible that is. There's no doubt in my mind he is guilty of the crimes charged.

 

[camillllla]

There's been a lot of "fan" sites being set up for convicted murderers. SP now has "fan listings." There's something terribly wrong with that concept. These are not rock stars or celebrities. They are murderers. To be a fan of a murderer says quite a lot about the fan. IMO

Hi Molly,

yes it sure does.
Ok, Im sure this poster who calls herself a Darlie-fan does not belive Darlie is a murderer. So its not like she exactly qualifies as a murder-groupie.
She just wants her support of Darlie to be obvious.
I'd say she just chose a lousy handle.

Molly, you seem to have a good grip on the case, the only thing I disagree with you (from what Ive read so far of your posts) is that the vacuum machine is evidence of guilt. I think its just a red herring, moved there after she supported herself on it by the bar. It was most likely moved there by someone as it was in the way and noone remembers it (can't blame them!) But still there is so much evidence apart from the vacuum cleaner that I am sure the jury did not convict her just for that.





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[Jeana (DP)]

Maybe she didn't already have a name in mind when she registered. In any event, let's stick to her theories of the case and not on her name please.

 

[mollymalone]

Hi Molly,

yes it sure does.
Ok, Im sure this poster who calls herself a Darlie-fan does not belive Darlie is a murderer. So its not like she exactly qualifies as a murder-groupie.
She just wants her support of Darlie to be obvious.
I'd say she just chose a lousy handle.

Molly, you seem to have a good grip on the case, the only thing I disagree with you (from what Ive read so far of your posts) is that the vacuum machine is evidence of guilt. I think its just a red herring, moved there after she supported herself on it by the bar. It was most likely moved there by someone as it was in the way and noone remembers it (can't blame them!) But still there is so much evidence apart from the vacuum cleaner that I am sure the jury did not convict her just for that.
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Oh, the vaccum is just one facet, not an overriding piece of the circumstances of the case. I think she put it down to support her story somehow just like she broke one glass. The vaccum cleaner position in relation to the blood tells it's own piece of the puzzle.

I followed the case, but I'm having to refresh my memory by looking things up, it's been awhile, and I hadn't really discussed the case with anyone. It's great to discuss it with other posters and hear their ideas. There are others here who are much more informed about the case than I am.

Anyone who chooses a nic that involves the name of an inmate they support IMO is making it clear where their support lies. I don't fault them for that.
I do wonder about some of the more rabid supporters motivation when they create "fan listings."

 

[camillllla]

Oh, the vaccum is just one facet, not an overriding piece of the circumstances of the case. I think she put it down to support her story somehow just like she broke one glass. The vaccum cleaner position in relation to the blood tells it's own piece of the puzzle.

I followed the case, but I'm having to refresh my memory by looking things up, it's been awhile, and I hadn't really discussed the case with anyone. It's great to discuss it with other posters and hear their ideas. There are others here who are much more informed about the case than I am.

Anyone who chooses a nic that involves the name of an inmate they support IMO is making it clear where their support lies. I don't fault them for that.
I do wonder about some of the more rabid supporters motivation when they create "fan listings."

Hi Molly

When I first came across the Routier case on the net and the discussion boards of the time, I think its fair to say that us posters were 50%-guilty ('Anti's')50%-innocent (supporters), and many were not at all sure. I was totally undecided for more than a year. Even if I read the transcripts and studied the photos, I wasn't sure, mainly because there were so many persistent supporters arguing everything in Darlies favor. I kept giving her second chances. Now I have no more dillusions and no difficulties detecting the many flaws in supporters arguments and the misinformation they are built on.
Anyway, I finally 'got it' and joined the 'Anti' club.
We have successfully debunked all intruder theories and corrected a lot of misinformation since then which sole purpose was to spawn new supporters. Nowadays you can count them on one hand. They are a rare breed (supporters who have encountered us and still believe in Darlie, maybe only 1-2).

I also understood in time that us Anti's have our own disagreements when it comes to evidence, motive and Darins involvement.

I do not agree with everthing the State presented as evidence.
And (here comes the bomb...) I do not believe that Darlie staged anything inside the livingroom or kitchen. (Apart from cleaning the sink area)
The only staging meant for police to SEE was the cut screen.

Ok, you dont know me at all and maybe you think Im a little bit ...far out there :crazy: , but I can assure you that...Im not ! Haha!
I leave very little to imagination. I only follow the evidence.

If you have the crime scene photos, take a moment to note down all the items you think were staged/have been taught were staged. Then if you like we can go through them one by one and I bet you'll be surprised.

I had actually stopped discussing this case by now, but I find the question of staging still to be quite interesting.




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[mollymalone]

Hi Molly
SNIP

I do not agree with everthing the State presented as evidence.
And (here comes the bomb...) I do not believe that Darlie staged anything inside the livingroom or kitchen. (Apart from cleaning the sink area)
The only staging meant for police to SEE was the cut screen.

Ok, you dont know me at all and maybe you think Im a little bit ...far out there :crazy: , but I can assure you that...Im not ! Haha!
I leave very little to imagination. I only follow the evidence.

If you have the crime scene photos, take a moment to note down all the items you think were staged/have been taught were staged. Then if you like we can go through them one by one and I bet you'll be surprised.

I had actually stopped discussing this case by now, but I find the question of staging still to be quite interesting.


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I'm quite aware some think Darin was involved and some don't. There are some people who just cannot wrap their heads around the fact that she would do this to her own children. I'm sure that's what is said quite often in many cases. As for staging, Darlie may have thought she had to "stage" a few things to prove that there had been an intruder who had knocked these things over, such as the screen, the broken glass and maybe even the vaccuum. She did feel she had to clean up any blood there was by the sink.

As you say, the screen may have been the only thing LE was supposed to see, but then she thought at the last moment, I have to add something. That's the reason I think she may have added those other touches at the last moment.

 

[cami]

Hi Molly

When I first came across the Routier case on the net and the discussion boards of the time, I think its fair to say that us posters were 50%-guilty ('Anti's')50%-innocent (supporters), and many were not at all sure. I was totally undecided for more than a year. Even if I read the transcripts and studied the photos, I wasn't sure, mainly because there were so many persistent supporters arguing everything in Darlies favor. I kept giving her second chances. Now I have no more dillusions and no difficulties detecting the many flaws in supporters arguments and the misinformation they are built on.
Anyway, I finally 'got it' and joined the 'Anti' club.
We have successfully debunked all intruder theories and corrected a lot of misinformation since then which sole purpose was to spawn new supporters. Nowadays you can count them on one hand. They are a rare breed (supporters who have encountered us and still believe in Darlie, maybe only 1-2).

I also understood in time that us Anti's have our own disagreements when it comes to evidence, motive and Darins involvement.

I do not agree with everthing the State presented as evidence.
And (here comes the bomb...) I do not believe that Darlie staged anything inside the livingroom or kitchen. (Apart from cleaning the sink area)
The only staging meant for police to SEE was the cut screen.

Ok, you dont know me at all and maybe you think Im a little bit ...far out there :crazy: , but I can assure you that...Im not ! Haha!
I leave very little to imagination. I only follow the evidence.

If you have the crime scene photos, take a moment to note down all the items you think were staged/have been taught were staged. Then if you like we can go through them one by one and I bet you'll be surprised.

I had actually stopped discussing this case by now, but I find the question of staging still to be quite interesting.




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Hey Cam, maybe we can talk you into bringing your how she did it based on the blood evidence over here.

You know, I never did get all that stuff with the vacuum cleaner. It totally confused me. I don't think Darlie staged anything with the vacuum, I think she bled on it when she went to the Utility room, where it was stored, so it had to become part of the crime scene. I just can't see a neatnik like Darlie leave the vacuum out.