HPV vaccine mandatory for all texas girls

[JBean]

Here's another link regarding vaccine safety issues, written by Jon Rappaport, an investigative journalist:

http://www.vaclib.org/basic/evidence.htm

I was wondering when you would weigh in on this topic!

 

[Kim Ii]

Julianne,

Yes, it's all true. I wouldn't say it if it weren't.

The vaccine industry is truly one of the biggest scams perpetuated on the public.

I researched the entire controversy regarding the polio vaccine and that, too, shocked me unbelievably. I viewed a documentary re: the origins on the polio vaccine...it was shown on the Sundance Channel...and it sickened me.

Please read up on the links I've posted...take time to study the issue of vaccination and its harmful effects on our health before you vaccinate your children further. I used to do the side step on this one and state that this was an issue that is entirely personal...that it involves personal choice...but I won't do that any longer.

Vaccines, as our homeopath, Dr. Randall Neustaedter has told us, ARE POISON. Don't vaccinate...Educate Before You Vaccinate.

A woman by the name of Wendy Callahan has a great website...just a wealth of information...check her out, too. In fact, our son's story is the first story on one of her links regarding vaccine injuries to kids.

More people take extra time to investigate where to have their cars repaired, then they do in studying up on vaccine issues. I believe it is because we have been programmed to believe in the sanctity of vaccination...we are pressured into vaccinating our children and told not to give it a second thought, because 'they' know better than you do what is best for your child. Nothing could be further from the truth, but you have to DIG to find the truth a bit.

That digging helped save our son and a possible lifetime of grief if we hadn't uncovered the truth before it was too late for Ryan.

 

[Kim Ii]

Just a note: It's Sunday morning and I have our son and two dogs waiting for me outside my office door!

I will not get into a debate on this topic. Vast numbers of physicians, scientists, researchers and the like, have debated the topic of vaccine safety issues ad nauseum. I have Freedom of Information Act papers that document the data that is being covered up (the lies and downright deceit perpetuated on the American public vis-a-vis the cover-up re: the thimerosal issue and autism, for example.)

Just do the research...read the information that is available...and use your own deductive reasoning skills. Common sense should tell anyone that, when you see the numbers of autism rising, when you see the numbers of kids in schools who seem to have so many learning disorder issues and behavioral issues, that something is terribly, terribly WRONG. Once you delve into the research, as I have (through medical libraries, telephone conferences with pediatricians, health departments, etc.), then you start connecting the dots. It really doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out.

 

[Kim Ii]

Yes, and I will continually weigh in on this topic until I'm dead and buried, thank you very much. :banghead:

 

[Kim Ii]

Here's a link to Wendy Callahan's website (this is a GREAT site for vaccine safety research...Wendy's really done her homework)...

http://www.vaccinetruth.org/

 

[JBean]

Yes, and I will continually weigh in on this topic until I'm dead and buried, thank you very much. :banghead:

I look forward to your posts Kim. I meant that as a compliment.I am not sure of you took my post the wrong way, I hope not. Even though I have different opinions on this topic I always look forward to your informative and well thought out posts. I even mentioned that you have done lots of research in one of my early posts.
Thanks for weighing in.

 

[accordn2me]

Yes, and I will continually weigh in on this topic until I'm dead and buried, thank you very much. :banghead:

Thank you for all of the information you are putting out. Please don't beat yourself up for having your son vaccinated. Obviously, you are a very conscientious mother. At the time, you did what you believed was best for your baby.

In 1984, I was in the hospital after delivering my daughter when my husband's sister called and said their 4 month old daughter was in ICU. Our niece had been diagnosed with polio. We were floored. She had gotten it from her first vaccination.

As soon as my daughter's pediatrician walked into the room, I told him how scared I was. A baby in our family had polio! He said he would do some research and we would decide later about vaccinations. He went to see our niece in the hospital. He talked to her doctors. When I took her for her first check up, he said he was still reading everything he could find, talking to other doctors, and we would decide in a few weeks. At her 2 month check up, he sat me down and said after all the reading and talking with other doctors, he would vaccinate her if she were his child. He said the risks of not vaccinating far outweighed the risks of giving the vaccinations.

While my niece was paralyzed from polio she got from her vaccine, I chose a genuinely concerned doctor's advice and had my daughter vaccinated. Thankfully, except for being a major meanie :razz: and lazy, she turned out fine...I guess. Twenty-two years later, after all of these other cases have come to light, I don't know that I would make the same decision. I wonder if the doctor would give me the same advice. No matter. I did what I believed was best for my baby at the time. You did too!

You are doing a lot of good by putting this information out for people to learn about. If grandchildren are in my future, I hope my daughter is as informed as you are.

Thank you, again.
Paula

 

[Details]

Common sense would say that all these doctors would not be vaccinating their own children, and are not such monsters as to deliberately give children the diseases supposed to come from vaccinations, if vaccinations were really dangerous.

I've read the statistics, anti-vaccine sites as well. The evidence is clear that vaccines are not causing autism. The worst of it is if you follow links on anti-vaccine sites to the researchers quoted, the studies cited, you find that they do not agree - the quotes are not accurate, or the researcher's qualifications have been massively overstated; the studies actually say the opposite, or are unbelievably small and non-random.



Autism is rising - unsurprising when previously it wasn't even a diagnosis, then it was a diagnosis but not well known, most doctors wouldn't spot it, then it was the disorder of the moment, and everyone knows about it. A really facinating little statistic is to watch the decrease in children marked as mentally retarded, and how that number goes down precisely as autism diagnosis rise. It seems very clear that children that were previously considered morons or otherwise mentally retarded are now recognized as autistic.

Polio - now that was a know possible side effect - just rare enough (and I believe it's rarer or not possible now?) that it was far better than not vaccinating. With everything in medicine, you are playing the odds. A simple surgery to fix a life-threatening torn artery can still kill you if you have the bad luck to be allergic to the anesthesia, or something weird goes wrong. If you only look at that - "If I have this surgery, there's a .1% chance I'll die from it!" - then you don't have the surgery, and die from the torn artery (oops!). You always have to look at the good (no more children getting polio from one another, no more epidemics) with the bad (a very, incredibly rare case where a child gets polio from the vaccine). If you only look at the negative side (the vaccine might cause ...), you're missing a large part of the story.

 

[accordn2me]

Details, that's a good point about the rise in autism diagnosis and fall in MR diagnosis. My mom had all kinds of diagnosis, hypoglocemia is one (if I could spell the others...:blushing: ), until they finally settled on her being bipolar...first it was called manic depression, I think.

I believe the polio vaccine they give now is not a live one. I had that option at the time but my doctor said the immunity was not lifelong with the dead virus injection. I hate needles too. So, I chose the live oral vaccine. I don't think you can have the live vaccine now, so maybe I didn't make the best call. I'm thankful there were no repercussions.

 

[txsvicki]

Thank you Kim Ii for all the information about adverse reactions to Gardasil. I don't in any way compare to children who have suffered due to reactions, but after what happened to me after the HepB vaccine, I take all this very seriously. I will definitely opt out of Gardasil for my granddaughter in a few years even though I will worry that I'll be turned into CPS by the school. She can decide for herself when older.

Also, this is not on topic of Gardasil, but I have read where most kids with Autism also test positive for c difficile toxin and are lactose intolerant. I have both of these plus developed problems with writing about the same time, most likely a super infection due to my taking antibiotics. Could autism possibly be related to antibiotics?

 

[Autumn2004]

Kim Ii- Im so sorry what happened to your son and your friend's daughter. It was situations like yours that made me have many many sleepless nights over what to do for my daughter. We did end up vaccinating and thankfully we didnt have any problems with them.

Seizures as a side effect is a huge deal with me since epilepsy runs very strong with my family. I have dealt with it for nearly 20 years personally.

Regarding the autism link, I also think its how our food system is tainted is a reason for it since when following a gluten free casein free diet that alot of cases gets better or go away completely. I follow that diet also due to celiac disease as well as my family. Everything from arsenic in our chicken, hormones in milk (proven to cause breast cancer and early puberty) . The joke about organic being only 70% natural which is why I buy only kosher meat. And everything containing high processed corn which is a natural toxin. Corn syrup slows down your metabolism, its been proven and high processed corn is in almost everything. They inject it in our meats, spray on our fresh veggies and fruits. I wash, scrub, and soak them with baking soda to get it off the veggies and fruit. They wonder why everyone is getting fat???

If you want any info on food contamination in our foods ask me I have been studying it for years.

 

[PrayersForMaura]

Yes, and I will continually weigh in on this topic until I'm dead and buried, thank you very much. :banghead:

ok, so you may have personal experience with vaccinations gone bad. I have not.
However, I HAVE had cervical cancer created by the illness, which is the topic of this thread.
Have you?

 

[accordn2me]

To those who have had abnormal paps due to HPV:

Do you know if the particular strain of HPV you had is one of the ones that the vaccine protects against?

 

[Kim Ii]

Dear Prayers,

Keep doing your research, hon. MANY physicians within our own FDA, CDC, DOD, etc., know the truth about these vaccines. I understand your anger and confusion with this issue, but that's not going to stop me from telling the truth about this subject.

I've posted several threads above for anyone to read if they so choose. It's up to 'you' to do the reading...then connect the dots.

And yes, I had a reaction to an MMR vaccine as a young child (age 5), as well. Our SON, now 13 years of age, had SEVERE reactions to all his vaccines and is now paying the price (i.e., severe learning disorder issues).

Why the anger? If you don't want to read this thread, or accept the information I've shared, then don't let it upset you. If you want to know the TRUTH, then start reading up on Dr. Len Horowitz's material for starters. He's an excellent and prominent authority on this subject.

 

[Kim Ii]

Eli Lilly: The Habitual Offender

Here's an article, written by medical investigative journalist, Evelyn Pringle, that will knock your socks off (and make you angry ):

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0701/S00353.htm;

And a snip:

"The revelations that Eli Lilly concealed the side effects of Zyprexa and promoted the drug for unapproved uses is not newly discovered misconduct. It is a persistent pattern of conduct indicative of a nasty habit that needs breaking."


AND...if you don't think they do this vis-a-vis the vaccine industry, think again. BIG PHARMA is rampant with this sort of behavior...it's buyer beware. They line their pocket books while we keep getting sicker and sicker.

 

[Autumn2004]

ok, so you may have personal experience with vaccinations gone bad. I have not.
However, I HAVE had cervical cancer created by the illness, which is the topic of this thread.
Have you?

I have to say this , Are you threatened by people posting both sides of the issue? You seem to attack everyone who is not for it. Are you getting kickbacks from the company?? This is a DISCUSSION FORUM. We ARE ALLOWED to discuss all sides of it. Do you have children? She is allowed to post on here just as much as YOU are! VACCINATIONS are NOT the cure all, its not even neaer 100% effective. GEESH! THIS POST IS ABOUT VACCINATIONS! WHICH I PERSONALLY WANT TO HEAR ALL SIDES! You have no reason to attakc her.

BTW----- CHEMO is not the same thing as this vaccination. IF you are taking chemo you obviously have a disease that will take your life and it might save you. This is not anything like this vaccine that might protect you IF you get it.

Im sorry you have dealt with this personally but your NOT going to turn everyone onto it saying if your daughters dont receive the vaccine that as a parent it is your fault if they get cancer. IF they didnt care they would not be discussing it......

Sorry but your attitude is getting to be a bit much for me since you have voiced it through with the same message throughout the Thread.

 

[PrayersForMaura]

Dear Prayers,

Keep doing your research, hon. MANY physicians within our own FDA, CDC, DOD, etc., know the truth about these vaccines. I understand your anger and confusion with this issue, but that's not going to stop me from telling the truth about this subject.

I've posted several threads above for anyone to read if they so choose. It's up to 'you' to do the reading...then connect the dots.

And yes, I had a reaction to an MMR vaccine as a young child (age 5), as well. Our SON, now 13 years of age, had SEVERE reactions to all his vaccines and is now paying the price (i.e., severe learning disorder issues).

Why the anger? If you don't want to read this thread, or accept the information I've shared, then don't let it upset you. If you want to know the TRUTH, then start reading up on Dr. Len Horowitz's material for starters. He's an excellent and prominent authority on this subject.

You're compariing apples to oranges, HUN.
The anger is really irritation, not anger.

You have never had cervical cancer, have you? I know your son wouldn't have because it's a female thing.

If vaccinations were such a bad thing, then why are we all not having the same issues? Obviously we've all had vaccinations that were mandatory or we wouldn't have been allowed in schools.

This vaccination might be deemed "mandatory" but it's not. You can opt out.
If people want to opt out, fine.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
It's just a risk to not take a precaution when one is there available.

If I had a vaccination available when I was younger and wouldn't have had to have a whopping 6-inch needle placed inside me to eliminate the cancerous cells, then I might feel a bit differently.
Having the leap procedure was the most painful thing I have ever experienced in my life. Painful and violating.

I pray that no one here has to ever go through what I did.
My whole body broke out in hives that were as big as potatoes.
I lost 15 pounds.
I lost some dignity.

A simple vaccination could've helped me feel differently about not only intimacy but about this subject.

Your experience with vaccinations gone wrong is a very sad story, but not everyone goes through what you have with vaccinations.
They wouldn't be out there if they didn't do some good.

 

[PrayersForMaura]

I have to say this , Are you threatened by people posting both sides of the issue? You seem to attack everyone who is not for it. Are you getting kickbacks from the company?? This is a DISCUSSION FORUM. We ARE ALLOWED to discuss all sides of it. Do you have children? She is allowed to post on here just as much as YOU are! VACCINATIONS are NOT the cure all, its not even neaer 100% effective. GEESH! THIS POST IS ABOUT VACCINATIONS! WHICH I PERSONALLY WANT TO HEAR ALL SIDES! You have no reason to attakc her.

BTW----- CHEMO is not the same thing as this vaccination. IF you are taking chemo you obviously have a disease that will take your life and it might save you. This is not anything like this vaccine that might protect you IF you get it.

Im sorry you have dealt with this personally but your NOT going to turn everyone onto it saying if your daughters dont receive the vaccine that as a parent it is your fault if they get cancer. IF they didnt care they would not be discussing it......

Sorry but your attitude is getting to be a bit much for me since you have voiced it through with the same message throughout the Thread.

oh well...
you're misinterpreting me. I never "personally attacked" anyone about this subject.

Maybe you need to adjust your sensitivity level?

 

[Kim Ii]

The Truth Behind the Vaccine Cover-Up, by Dr. Russell Blaylock (certified neurosurgeon);

Here's the link: http://herballure.com/ubbthreads/sh...r=2387&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1;

Here's the snip:

The Truth Behind the Vaccine Coverup
Dr. Russell Blaylock, M.D.

"I was asked to write a paper on some of the newer mechanisms of vaccine damage to the nervous system, but, in the interim, I came across an incredible document that should blow the lid off the coverup being engineered by the pharmaceutical companies in conjunction with powerful governmental agencies."

"It all started when a friend of mine sent me a copy of a letter from Congressman David Weldon (R-Fla.), M.D. to the director of the CDC, Dr Julie L. Gerberding, in which he alludes to a study by a Dr. Thomas Verstraeten, then representing the CDC, on the connection between infant exposure to thimerosal-containing vaccines and neurodevelopmental injury."

"In this shocking letter, Weldon refers to Dr. Verstraeten's study which looked at the data from the Vaccine Safety Datalink and found a significant correlation between thimerosal exposure via vaccines and several neurodevelopmental disorders including tics, speech and language delays and possibly to ADD."

"Weldon questioned the CDC director as to why, following this meeting, Dr. Verstraeten published his results, almost four years later, in the journal Pediatrics to show just the opposite. That is, there was no correlation to any neurodevelopmental problems related to thimerosal exposure in infants. In his letter, Weldon refers to a report of the minutes of this meeting held in Georgia, which exposes some incredible statements by the "experts" making up this study group."

"The group's purpose was to evaluate and discuss Dr. Verstraeten's results and data and make recommendation that would eventually lead to possible alterations in the existing vaccine policy."

 

[PrayersForMaura]

BTW----- CHEMO is not the same thing as this vaccination. IF you are taking chemo you obviously have a disease that will take your life and it might save you. This is not anything like this vaccine that might protect you IF you get it.

I never had chemo, either.
I don't know what you're talking about. Cervical cancer is different than lung cancer.

If parents can prevent something with an option now, then parents have the responsibility if the child develops HPV before they are old enough to make their own decisions.