Huckaby defense seeks second Sandra Cantu autopsy

  • #81
I believe she (MH) is being represented by the state at the moment. The public defender who represented her at the arraignment will not be representing her in the future. From what I understand another PD has already been assigned to her case who I imagine is the one asking for a second autopsy. I'm pretty sure I heard her first PD say at the arraignment that she had conferred with MH just briefly prior to the proceedings... which would probably mean that she (PD) had just been assigned the case. i.e. The arraignment being her first order of business.

Yes, I understand. But how did any of that prevent the motion and hearing for the second autopsy being expedited so that the second autopsy could be conducted prior to Sandra being laid to rest, thereby allowing Sandra the dignity and respect she deserves?
 
  • #82
Question for those "law savvy" folks...
Is this a common occurance (defense asking to do their own autopsy?) I have never heard of such a thing!!

Seems like they're just rubbing salt in the wounds of Sandra's family... :(
 
  • #83
They exhumed Darlie's boys. I know that.
 
  • #84
Yes, I understand. But how did any of that prevent the motion and hearing for the second autopsy being expedited so that the second autopsy could be conducted prior to Sandra being laid to rest, thereby allowing Sandra the dignity and respect she deserves?

On what grounds would a second autopsy be demanded? I see none, as the first autopsy hasn't even been completed? How many autopsies does a victim have to undergo? What if this defendant has her charges dismissed and a second person is later arrested? Does he get another autopsy, too, just because his defense wants one, with no grounds? What if that autopsy is considered insufficient without any grounds named? How about another one, just in case?

This would go beyond the pale of injustice, it would be a legal nightmare.
 
  • #85
  • #86
Question for those "law savvy" folks...
Is this a common occurance (defense asking to do their own autopsy?) I have never heard of such a thing!!

Seems like they're just rubbing salt in the wounds of Sandra's family... :(
The most recent case was that of Caylee Anthony. A second autopsy was requested, fought over, and given to the defense. The defense then took her body and held her for an extended (IMO, inappropriate) period of time which meant the accused killer/mother had complete control over the victim's remains. I honestly felt like Caylee was being held hostage and revictimized by the accused killer in that case.
 
  • #87
Yes, I understand. But how did any of that prevent the motion and hearing for the second autopsy being expedited so that the second autopsy could be conducted prior to Sandra being laid to rest, thereby allowing Sandra the dignity and respect she deserves?

I couldn't begin to answer that without knowing the level of efficiency of the CA public defender system... I suppose you would have to ask them as to the why or why nots. I can't imagine the state (PD) is doing it on purpose to disrespect the victim or the victims family.
 
  • #88
I use the "burning of witches" as an analogy to what I see going on here. -The accused has been hunted down by the mob, strung up and burned alive. All this well ahead of any concrete evidence or trial. I find this somewhat disturbing. Not enough for a call to arms but good enough for a wince... a wince that may feel the need to express it's distaste in the form of a reply from time to time.

And YES this is a forum and NO you needn't wait for concrete evidence in order to form an opinion but does that opinion have to hold so much venom? The question is rhetorical. Let it drift.

IMO the accused voluntarily approached the mob(LE) with conflicting statements. Those statements lead to plenty of concrete evidence. Therefore it appears that the accused strung herself up.
 
  • #89
They just throw out the BS and spin stories. I am surprised Geragos didn't get into this one. He loves the camera.
Geragos is still busy looking for the homeless satan worshippers in a brown van that murdered Laci...
 
  • #90
Reminder: Attack the post not the poster. ;)
 
  • #91
Question for those "law savvy" folks...
Is this a common occurance (defense asking to do their own autopsy?) I have never heard of such a thing!!

Seems like they're just rubbing salt in the wounds of Sandra's family... :(

I can't speak to the question of whether this has ever happened before. I simply question whether it can be done without grounds. Perhaps others know the answer to your question.

What the judge decides, I don't know. But I would be shocked to see this request granted considering that the original autopsy isn't even finished. How can the defense cite any grounds without even seeing the orginal autopsy?

Guess we'll find out, as the talking heads will weigh in on this, no doubt. And the judge will rule on it, as well, eventually.
 
  • #92
This reminds me of another case where the defense team demanded the right to the crime scene DURING the time LE was processing the scene. It was a failed attempt only staged for publicity as they knew darn well they had no right to request such a thing!
 
  • #93
I haven't noticed any precedence wherein the defense gets to conduct their own autopsy.

Think of how that would go....

What victim and his/her family wouldn't feel doubly violated if defendants all got to demand their own autopsies. Once a precedence is set, it opens a floodgate. Graveyards all over opening up.

What's next? Defendants get to do physical GYN exams on rape victims?

I don't think this is going to happen.

This attorney isn't doing his/her job. He/she is asking to RAPE THE VICTIM AGAIN. Bastid.

Hi KK! I seem to remember Scott Peterson's team examining the bodies, although I don't know if that was considered a second autopsy. I believe there was a second autopsy also done on Caylee Anthony. But in both cases there hadn't been a burial yet I believe.

I read this story this morning and it really made me angry. I guess I shouldn't be surprised or shocked at the request. I am hoping the original autopsy was documented completely and there will be no need to exhume Sandra.
:wave::wave:
 
  • #94
I use the "burning of witches" as an analogy to what I see going on here. -The accused has been hunted down by the mob, strung up and burned alive. All this well ahead of any concrete evidence or trial. I find this somewhat disturbing. Not enough for a call to arms but good enough for a wince... a wince that may feel the need to express it's distaste in the form of a reply from time to time.

And YES this is a forum and NO you needn't wait for concrete evidence in order to form an opinion but does that opinion have to hold so much venom? The question is rhetorical. Let it drift.

I can't resist adding my:twocents: . There is a difference in venom, and NORMAL ANGER. I am hearning anger not venom. Secondly, I feel this same anger myself! Not only for the sweet innocent child that was possibly drugged, and raped with A FOREIGN OBJECT, and murdered!:furious: That to me is enough bring out this degree of anger in any normal person. Then add that MH may have done this to other children, and the fact that we are all keeping our children now under lock and key to protect them from monsters like MH (alledegly???), afraid to let them even go to school, or play in our own back yards. YES WE ARE ANGRY!!! AND PROBABLY WILL BE UNTIL THIS B#### COMES TO JUSTICE. :furious::furious::furious::furious::furious::furious: NONNI
 
  • #95
Am I gonna get a TO now? Never had one. Sorry, just telling you "what I really think." Nonni
 
  • #96
There was an exhumation done in the case of Drew Peterson's ex-wife (Kathleen Savio) several years after her burial. Most exhumations and second autopsies are the result of new evidence coming to light to bring into question the first autopsy.

I think asking for a second autopsy to be performed on Sandra does go against the standard when the first has not been completed or if there is no known reason for it to be called into question already (my opinion only).
 
  • #97
  • #98
I think Darlie did???? They were trying to match the "foreign" fingerprint.


So the victims' family agreed, as well as there was the fact that the ME didn't take fingerprints of the victims. That would also be grounds for an exhumation, to collect evidence not taken at the original autopsy, though I have no idea if the state played a part in the second autopsy request.
 
  • #99
Am I gonna get a TO now? Never had one. Sorry, just telling you "what I really think." Nonni

Well, at least I'll be in good company when I get mine! Pass the cig's! :behindbar:behindbar
 
  • #100
There was an exhumation done in the case of Drew Peterson's ex-wife several years after her burial. Most exhumations and second autopsies are the result of new evidence coming to light to bring into question the first autopsy.

Wasn't that autopsy requested by the state, of Mrs. Peterson, when the circumstances of the first wife's death came to light? Maybe I'm not remembering that right though.
 

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