Huckaby tied to January missing girl report

[Sweetie_PI]

Benzodiazies interfere with memory formation but in a different way than e.g., scopolamine does. I wonder what a subject might describe it as, other than in scientific terms. I was slipped some BD's in alcohol in the pre-planned commission of a crime against me (steal computer/files/evidence) some years ago, but was able to fight it off as it was not a sufficient dose, yet though I had experienced some memory loss, it was still a full "time line" if with a few missing, a few fuzzy dots. I always wondered what a full dose would have done. I know with scope, it's a total erasure.

ON THAT NOTE, What I find so very very interesting, perhaps a tad disturbing, is that SHENEMAN had indeed interviewed the first (drugged) girl. He said she seemed fine to him. Just a bit sleepy, but it was late. WHAT?!!! I said, WHAAAT?! Tony, I thought we knew ya!!

Secondly the past few days I had spent some time looking into MH's escapades in Orange County, CA, and found some disturbing clues there, other than the two fires. That link to another State.

I wonder if anyone has done a missing child search - 7 - 8 y/o females - for Orange County, CA for the periods of 2002-2003-2004, for starters.

 

[mysteriew]

Early on LE said they had no suspects in Sandra's disappearance, after MH was arrested LE said that MH wasn't on their radar until after her interview with the reporter. I am sorry, but I think that LE dropped the ball on this one, or at least was slow in catching it.

The first missing child case- sounds like LE didn't follow up on that one very well. Family says child is missing, child later found at the park with the Sunday school teacher. Okay, maybe a problem in the family.

Family notices a problem, takes the child to the hospital. Child found to have drugs in the system. I am not sure but since a crime had possibly been committed, wouldn't police have been called as well as CPS? Okay, it was put down as a possible problem in the family, possible neglect by the mother. But didn't they investigate it? If the mother was allegedly neglecting the child to the point that she ended up at the hospital, shouldn't they have been investigating a possible criminal charge on the mother- and maybe would have found out more about MH during that investigation?

Sandra goes missing, Sandra lives in MH mobile home park. Did no LE not think of the previous missing kid case? Maybe think about the previous missing kid/drugging case that MH had been associated with? Esp. since it was known early on that Sandra was connected to MH. And MH put herself into the investigation very early on, admitting she saw Sandra, giving interviews, finding the note etc.

Oh yeah, MH must have surely had quite some line. She wasn't even on LE's radar until the media interview where she herself brought up the other missing girl and admitted to her missing suitcase.

 

[KoldKase]

The detective who is/was the spokesperson for the Tracey PD said the other night on NGrace that Huckaby was going to be arrested already, before she gave those press interviews. So maybe they did remember that previous drugging incident. We know they'd been searching the grandfather's home and church extensively.

Also, the mother of the child drugged in January took the child to the hospital ER, and that's when the tests were done which found the drug in the bloodstream. I'm not sure what LE's thinking was about that: why would the mother take the child to the ER if she'd drugged her? But crazy people do crazy things, so I guess LE had a right to investigate the mother. Why NOBODY seems to have decided to get a search warrant and FIND OUT who gave the child the drugs, I have no idea. That could and should have led to Huckaby.

 

[Melanie]

Early on LE said they had no suspects in Sandra's disappearance, after MH was arrested LE said that MH wasn't on their radar until after her interview with the reporter. I am sorry, but I think that LE dropped the ball on this one, or at least was slow in catching it.

The first missing child case- sounds like LE didn't follow up on that one very well. Family says child is missing, child later found at the park with the Sunday school teacher. Okay, maybe a problem in the family.

Family notices a problem, takes the child to the hospital. Child found to have drugs in the system. I am not sure but since a crime had possibly been committed, wouldn't police have been called as well as CPS? Okay, it was put down as a possible problem in the family, possible neglect by the mother. But didn't they investigate it? If the mother was allegedly neglecting the child to the point that she ended up at the hospital, shouldn't they have been investigating a possible criminal charge on the mother- and maybe would have found out more about MH during that investigation?

Sandra goes missing, Sandra lives in MH mobile home park. Did no LE not think of the previous missing kid case? Maybe think about the previous missing kid/drugging case that MH had been associated with? Esp. since it was known early on that Sandra was connected to MH. And MH put herself into the investigation very early on, admitting she saw Sandra, giving interviews, finding the note etc.

Oh yeah, MH must have surely had quite some line. She wasn't even on LE's radar until the media interview where she herself brought up the other missing girl and admitted to her missing suitcase.

Bang on mysteriew! As a mother, knowing I didn't drug my child, who would I personally confront? The last person my child was with! If LE wasn't going to do it, I sure would. How does a parent just "let it go". Now I'm not sure if she did or not -- but it sounds like she didn't stomp her feet hard enough. I would have filed a complaint saying she took the child without my permission, and my child came back drugged.

It sounds like LE didn't even bother to interview MH for this incident. I would have been all over her like white on rice, talking to neighbors, and to anyone who would listen. I would have also called CPS on MH. I certainly would have questioned MH's most recent statement with the press that she took the child to the park for 4 hours.

Baffling, just baffling.....

Best,

 

[Sweetie_PI]

AND THAT is the weirdest thing in my book, when it comes to the small closed community of a "healthy" Mobile Home Park, stuff like police activity in the Park is always discussed for safety reasons - why were the police here? What crime happened? Sorry, something is WAY OFF with that Park's property mgmt/ownership - and neighborhood culture.

 

[Sweetie_PI]

TURNS OUT TONY SHENEMAN KNEW OF THE FIRST GIRL'S SITUATION. All along. IMO he had downplayed it in Jan, and now.

 

[i.b.nora]

Its fairly obvious that police DID have Melissa on their radar for at least a number of days before Melissa gave those media interviews.
Why else would they have impounded her car when they did? Why else would they have had a round the clock police detail at the hospital? Why else were they searching the church when they were? The police knew what they were doing.

 

[KoldKase]

You didn't dream it. I heard it too. The reporter said that the family was asked to comment on the 'missing' January child, and that Angie Chavez said that the family did not know about the other child until the media broke the story.

So...if LE didn't talk to Huckaby about this drugging case...how did she know about it?

Lots of ways she could have found out, but the mother says LE told HER not to talk to Huckaby.

Maybe LE DID talk to Huckaby.

I swear, this is too tedious. I wish some reporter who asks ALL THE QUESTIONS needed would talk to the family of the January child.

WHO brought the child to her home after Huckaby had her?

Did LE check the child out before turning her over to her mother when Huckaby returned the child?

Did LE ever TALK to Huckaby after a drug was found in the child's bloodstream?

WHY didn't LE get a search warrant and find the drug and arrest the person who gave it to the child?

arrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh

 

[goofeegyrl]

Its fairly obvious that police DID have Melissa on their radar for at least a number of days before Melissa gave those media interviews.
Why else would they have impounded her car when they did? Why else would they have had a round the clock police detail at the hospital? Why else were they searching the church when they were? The police knew what they were doing.

Exactly. Sgt. S has said she was on their radar.

 

[KoldKase]

TURNS OUT TONY SHENEMAN KNEW OF THE FIRST GIRL'S SITUATION. All along. IMO he had downplayed it in Jan, and now.

Maybe. Maybe not. I don't know what the truth is about this. Now that there's a gag order by the judge, we probably won't know for a long time, if ever, since the incident involves a 7 year old.

 

[KoldKase]

Okay, I have been rereading, and I seem to be getting confused because this is dribbling out in piecemeal and it's hard to keep up.

But as best as I can now figure out, IT APPEARS that Huckaby returned the little girl to her home and "let her out"...?

What I don't understand is where was LE at this time?

And why did the mother identify Huckaby's car--the purple Kia Sportage? Did she say that to LE when her child was still missing, or when she was returned? Either way, the mother doesn't seem to have understood that Huckaby had that kind of car...? But Huckaby said that she had given the mother her cell phone number, which the mother lost--I know Huckaby lies, but just trying to pinpoint THIS lie, as well. If the mother knew Huckaby's cell number and car, why did she report her child missing in such a vehicle...or did she name the vehicle...when?

Shoot, I have to look all this up again, don't I? I don't know why this is so confusing to me.

 

[Salem]

No matter how this all went down, who ever the LE officer(s) was/were should be FIRED if they failed to "eyeball" the child and speak to her when she was returned home. No EXCUSE! They had a responsibility to make sure this missing child was alright and the ONLY way to do that was to have actually SEEN and HEARD her.

Salem

Now - if they did see and speak to the child and saw no issues and wrote that in their report, then they can keep their jobs

 

[Columbo]

TURNS OUT TONY SHENEMAN KNEW OF THE FIRST GIRL'S SITUATION. All along. IMO he had downplayed it in Jan, and now.

I wonder if that's part of the reason why he appeared SO grim, so clench-jawed, toward the end of the search, and before the arrest. Of course, a horrific case like this could do that to a person anyhow, but this earlier case with the little girl in January must have been haunting him.

 

[KoldKase]

Okay, here is one article where it states that the police log reports that the child had left in a purple Kia Sportage. So WHO reported that? HOW is it possible to forget a PURPLE car, if the mom knew Huckaby and had her cell number? I guess the mom could have never seen the Kia.

http://www.wbko.com/news/headlines/43356302.html#

[snip]In a telephone interview, the woman who asked not to be identified said her seven year old sister went missing January 17th for four hours before Huckaby allegedy returned her.

Police logs obtained by ABC News show there was a report of a missing child on January 17th from the Orchard Estates - the same mobile home park where Sandra Cantu disappeared, and where Huckaby lived with her grandparents.

The police logs also state "the child is possibly with another resident's grandaughter" and that both were seen driving "from the park in a purple Kia Sportage."

A day after Sandra Cantu's body was found, police seized a purple Kia Sportage which Huckaby allegedly drove.

[snip]

That would have to be someone related to Melissa, right? Huckaby said that her grandparents called her about cops looking for the child.

So the big question is did the cops actually see and check the child when she was returned or not? Was the child returned by Melissa to the home? Did she "drop her off" or go in to talk with the parent, to discuss the mix-up?

And if LE did not check on the child before leaving her after a suspected abduction, bad, bad error.

If the cop did check the child, was the child not exhibiting symptoms of being drugged?

In either case, there is still no explanation as to why LE didn't get a search warrant and someone didn't get arrested when the child did show up at the ER under the influence of a serious drug. I heard an ex-FBI agent say this week that is a FELONY.

 

[JDB]

Well, thanks for sharing JDB, and thanks for finding those posts for us, Winnow and SS.

But I am still going to refrain from making a judgment about this info. It certainly would be horrible to think that it's true, and that for some reason, Sandra was drugged and found unconscious and taken to the hospital six months ago and for some reason, nobody was arrested. (By LAW, the hospital would have called child protective services and LE, NO DOUBT.)

That happening would be as disturbing as the January child being drugged and stumbling around and taken to the hospital and nobody was arrested. This would be even worse in the context of Sandra having had it happen to her months before as well.

In fact, if either of those incidents didn't result in search warrants, I can't understand why.

Now that Sandra was murdered, it would be truly catastrophic to the legal system in Tracy if this all turned out to be true. LE would practically be worthy of being charged with negligent homicide in Sandra's death, if this is true.

I'm holding on to the "gossip" model, as things can get very mixed up going from the Cantus to someone who lived in the MHPark to someone's grandmother to the grandchild who told JDB on this forum who told us...that's a long chain to follow.
Because if this turned out to be true, Sandra Cantu would be a victim of much more than Huckaby's machinations.

The Bolding is mine? No where did I ever sayit was a grandmother who told a grandkid and then me. See this is how stories get so messed up.

What I said was a co worker MIL who knows people in the MHP was told all of what I shared. Also I found out that his MIL works at the school where Sandra went.

But belive what you want. All I am saying two of the 3 things I have been told have happened an I knew before the Media released anything.

 

[Kat]

Found it, the article I was looking for earlier.

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=6773250

Cantu's family unaware of previous case
Tuesday, April 21, 2009

Late Tuesday afternoon in Stockton, a San Joaquin County Superior Court judge issued a gag order in the Sandra Cantu case. All parties directly connected with the case can no longer speak with the media. Before the gag order was issued, ABC7 did speak with the family of another girl who went missing a few months ago.
"I guess if prosecution had happened, then maybe this wouldn't have happened," said Angie Chavez, Sandra's aunt.
The family of Sandra says they only found out Monday that earlier this year, another little girl had gone missing from the Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park. It was a girl later found in the company of murder suspect Melissa Huckaby.
Asked if she had wished she had known sooner, Chavez responded, "Yes, of course."

 

[Kat]

I don't which thread for this little girl to put this on? She's got two. I'll put it here and maybe everyone that had questions about how this child got home will see it...


same link as I posted above (post #161)

snip

Melissa brought her home. And after Melissa left and everybody else went, she wasn't acting right. Her speech was slurred. She could barely walk. She could barely stand," said the girl's sister.

 

[Kat]

KoldKase, the article I'm posting a link to quotes the adult sister of the victim as stating "Melissa brought her home".

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/east_bay&id=6773250

 

[KoldKase]

The Bolding is mine? No where did I ever sayit was a grandmother who told a grandkid and then me. See this is how stories get so messed up.

What I said was a co worker MIL who knows people in the MHP was told all of what I shared. Also I found out that his MIL works at the school where Sandra went.

But belive what you want. All I am saying two of the 3 things I have been told have happened an I knew before the Media released anything.

haha Okay, you're right, I screwed that up good.

But that was my point. No names, just anonymous people sharing info which can get garbled.

Let's see if I can get closer this time: From someone who lived at the MH Park--we don't know who, but maybe a relative of the child or maybe a neighbor, who would have to have heard about this from a relative of the child's, as a minor child's records are sealed/confidential--to the MIL...who told her SIL, your co-worker...and now you're telling us.

All I'm saying is that's a along line of people I don't know, and couldn't really tell you they were factually accurate if I did.

I'm not saying it's not true. I'm just saying I don't know until a source comes forward to verify it in some factual way. That's not asking too much before I believe something so unbelievable--that LE TWICE FAILED TO ACT WHEN MINOR CHILDREN WERE DRUGGED?

If your source turns out to be right, then I hope all the people who know about this RUN, not walk, to every single news media they can find and scream about it until it's published in every news media in this country.

 

[JDB]

I'm not saying it's not true. I'm just saying I don't know until a source comes forward to verify it in some factual way. That's not asking too much before I believe something so unbelievable--that LE TWICE FAILED TO ACT WHEN MINOR CHILDREN WERE DRUGGED?

If your source turns out to be right, then I hope all the people who know about this RUN, not walk, to every single news media they can find and scream about it until it's published in every news media in this country.

Hmm you want sources .
1 Huckaby was arrested on a Friday Night. I told SS in the morning who was going to be arrested.
2 The Girl in the park.After Huckaby was arrested my co-worker told me about Sandra an another girl Huckaby took to a park. I told SS that days before the media said a word.
The only thing left is Sandra's drugging 6 months before she was murdered.

Many people have asked why no search warrants in Jan. It is 2 words they have to have proable cause. An at the time there was not proable cause.I mean the Girls Mom had alchol on her breath when she took the girl in. Along with some typ of drug. For all the police knew the child was drugged by her Mom. And somewhere you asked why the cops would even think the Mom would bring her in? Think about it if a child of yours acted the way hers did. And maybe Mom gave her the Benzo because of a sore muscle and the child started acting weird. I know I would be taken my child in then and now. Hoping she did not die due to a OD.