Human Predators Stalk Haiti's Vulnerable Kids
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"But those things they say about him, I doubt they're true . . . He told me, 'Mami, I swear I didn't.' He would never hurt a child."
And how many men have lied to their mothers?
I'm almost certain that Cain told his mom he didn't have a clue as to where Abel had gone for the day. And when confronted with the dead body, responded with, "Mami, I swear I didn't".
And how many men have lied to their mothers?
I'm almost certain that Cain told his mom he didn't have a clue as to where Abel had gone for the day. And when confronted with the dead body, responded with, "Mami, I swear I didn't".
I've looked but can't find proof of this but wanted to put it out there. Is there any possibility that Puello crossed paths with Silsby while she was at Hewlett-Packard? I know she worked in Boise but they also have plants across Canada, where Puello supposedly lived.
Anybody found him in Canada yet?
Anybody found him in Canada yet?
I hadn't noticed this name before. This is in the updated article in the WSJ:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704124704575063793563174122.html
"New Life Children's Refuge began the process of buying land in Magante. One of Ms. Silsby's colleagues in the venture – former dentist Rob Chenvert, now a realtor in the Dominican Republic who worked with Ms. Silsby to find land and buildings for the planned orphanage – said on Friday that the group had no contact with Mr. Puello until after the arrest."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704124704575063793563174122.html
"New Life Children's Refuge began the process of buying land in Magante. One of Ms. Silsby's colleagues in the venture – former dentist Rob Chenvert, now a realtor in the Dominican Republic who worked with Ms. Silsby to find land and buildings for the planned orphanage – said on Friday that the group had no contact with Mr. Puello until after the arrest."
A photo and website for Rob Chenvert in the Dominican Republic. He looks to be of similar age to Silsby and we know that he's described as a former dentist. I wonder if she knew him through her Dad or brother (who makes dentures)?
http://www.drlistings.com/en/home/agent/rob-chenvert/email.html
i.b.nora--Don't you find it comical that Demara's nick name was Waldo--as in "Where's Waldo?" I laughed out loud when I was doing a search for Puello in Canada and came upon a Waldo Puello.
Maybe, the imposturing profession is like magic, only passed down to the initiated.
http://www.drlistings.com/en/home/agent/rob-chenvert/email.html
i.b.nora--Don't you find it comical that Demara's nick name was Waldo--as in "Where's Waldo?" I laughed out loud when I was doing a search for Puello in Canada and came upon a Waldo Puello.
Maybe, the imposturing profession is like magic, only passed down to the initiated.
Another site for one of Chenvert's properties in Sosua:
http://www.filterspecialistsinc.com/cgi-bin/ListingInfo2.cgi?listing_id=659&lang=en
Sosua is known to have a well established Jewish population as does Santo Domingo. This looks very much like something I would imagine Laura being interested in.
I surely don't want to second guess Rabbi Pelman's comment concerning Puello. If anyone would know Puello in the DR, Rabbi Pelman would, especially if Puello were actually "President of the Sephardic Community" (which we know now is simply a incorporated name). I found this comment:
"The current population of known Jews in the Dominican Republic is approximately 400, the majority live in Santo Domingo, the capital. A very high percentage of the nation's Jews have intermarried although some spouses have fomalized their Judaism through conversions and participate in Jewish communal life. There are three synagogues. One is the Centro Israelita de República Dominicana in Santo Domingo, another is a Chabad outreach center also in Santo Domingo and the other is in the country's first established community in Sosua.........."
more at this link:
http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/fa...9.html?cid=6a00d83451b71f69e20120a899fced970b
http://www.filterspecialistsinc.com/cgi-bin/ListingInfo2.cgi?listing_id=659&lang=en
Sosua is known to have a well established Jewish population as does Santo Domingo. This looks very much like something I would imagine Laura being interested in.
I surely don't want to second guess Rabbi Pelman's comment concerning Puello. If anyone would know Puello in the DR, Rabbi Pelman would, especially if Puello were actually "President of the Sephardic Community" (which we know now is simply a incorporated name). I found this comment:
"The current population of known Jews in the Dominican Republic is approximately 400, the majority live in Santo Domingo, the capital. A very high percentage of the nation's Jews have intermarried although some spouses have fomalized their Judaism through conversions and participate in Jewish communal life. There are three synagogues. One is the Centro Israelita de República Dominicana in Santo Domingo, another is a Chabad outreach center also in Santo Domingo and the other is in the country's first established community in Sosua.........."
more at this link:
http://failedmessiah.typepad.com/fa...9.html?cid=6a00d83451b71f69e20120a899fced970b
I think people have always been intrigued by impostors. They are very much like magicians--now you see me, now you don't. And who doesn't admire their chutzpah--unless you are being hurt by them or attempting to arrest them?
I've always wished that people such as this--the charisma, the smarts, the boldness--could be harnessed to do good works. Truly good works.
I've always wished that people such as this--the charisma, the smarts, the boldness--could be harnessed to do good works. Truly good works.
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I don't see anything "fractured" or "frenzied" about Silsby's behavior. She seems to have displayed, over the past 10 years, very systematic and steady behavior, in her relentless pursuit of personal profit. She has very carefully and very successfully deceived others -- including some very sophisticated people who worked for her company -- in her efforts to keep her schemes on track while not paying her bills or her employees. She's certainly energetic, but so are many people who don't suffer from bipolar disorder or any other mental disorder. It's the normal state of most people who are very successful at any demanding type of career, and of most people who are very successful at carrying out long-term frauds. And no one has ever mentioned noticing her going through a "down" period. Everybody who worked for her at her company who has spoken to the media (and some worked for her for many years) has described a woman who has *always* been very energetic and driven.
Her demeanor in media interviews since her arrest has always exuded a superficial calm confidence that everybody will soon realize how wonderful and well-intentioned and innocent she is, and the only thing I see peeking through from underneath the superficial layer is a realization that she's lying about a lot of things and is really (and very reasonably) afraid she won't be able to extricate herself from this in a way that will allow her to go back to the way she was living before. I just don't see any evidence of bipolar disorder at all. Will she get depressed after all this shakes out? Of course she will, but most people do when something happens to make them realize that their life as they knew it and wanted it to continue is definitively over. This is not a symptom of bipolar disorder; it's a feature of normal human psychology.
You know, now that we know more about Puello, first of all, I don't think for a second that he was ever in the Army. And, second, I doubt very much that he is even Jewish, much less a Sephardic Jew. I do think that imposters tend to be Momma's boys. And, he is that.
I am glad his mother and step father spoke with the press. It really needed to happen. If his mom wants to believe some of the things about him, I think that is understandable.
I am glad his mother and step father spoke with the press. It really needed to happen. If his mom wants to believe some of the things about him, I think that is understandable.
Hmmm....I wonder if someone is reading our posts too? Very interesting blog:
Who is Jorge Puello? Pt. 2 Jumping down the rabbit hole
http://bastardette.blogspot.com/2010/02/who-is-jorge-puello-pt-2-jumping-down.html
Lots of new details........
Who is Jorge Puello? Pt. 2 Jumping down the rabbit hole
http://bastardette.blogspot.com/2010/02/who-is-jorge-puello-pt-2-jumping-down.html
Lots of new details........
I respectfully disagree Pink. I probably should have added a word or two to the fractured and frenzied comment. It would be "secretly" or "privately". People with bipolar often (of course there are vast personal differences) have wonderfully grandiose schemes. On the surface, they can seem so plausible, viable, well-meaning.
During the mania, these folks are often highly charismatic and lure and entice others to willingly go along with the plan. I have no doubt that many great figures in history have been seriously bipolar.
Often times, the public does not see the depressed side of the coin. There seems to be some shame with that mental state and the person will "hole" up. I actually worry that this will occur for Laura at some point while she is in jail. For all the posts I've written about Laura Silsby, I do worry about her personal safety. I wish the woman no harm whatsoever.
ITA that people very often have high regard for the person with "big dreams". It's only long after the "victims" or the "duped" have been separated from the person's grip and control, that they come to their senses and realize that they've been used.
I am, in no way, a mental health professional. However, I do have three adult sons with varying types of bipolar. All had sudden adult onset at the age of 28. One has Rapid Cycling Type 1 with Borderline Personality Disorder, one has Type 2 along with Multiple Sclerosis, and one has Rapid Cycling Mixed State. Each was a normal and happy child who showed no signs until their onset. One has a daughter with the disorder and autism.
Trust me when I tell you that these handsome, brilliant, charming men have owned more successful businesses, had more incredibly wonderful women fall for them, traveled more, and dreamed bigger dreams than most. They can be entrancing and then vicious, hard-working and then un-caring, grandiose and then nit-picky. They are something else. It's an intriguing disorder/difference.
I love them with all my heart but I've learned to protect myself, my heart, and my bank account. The funny thing about them is that they would read this and smile as they are not in the least ashamed of who they are or what they've done. After all, they'd tell you, they've lived quite a life.
During the mania, these folks are often highly charismatic and lure and entice others to willingly go along with the plan. I have no doubt that many great figures in history have been seriously bipolar.
Often times, the public does not see the depressed side of the coin. There seems to be some shame with that mental state and the person will "hole" up. I actually worry that this will occur for Laura at some point while she is in jail. For all the posts I've written about Laura Silsby, I do worry about her personal safety. I wish the woman no harm whatsoever.
ITA that people very often have high regard for the person with "big dreams". It's only long after the "victims" or the "duped" have been separated from the person's grip and control, that they come to their senses and realize that they've been used.
I am, in no way, a mental health professional. However, I do have three adult sons with varying types of bipolar. All had sudden adult onset at the age of 28. One has Rapid Cycling Type 1 with Borderline Personality Disorder, one has Type 2 along with Multiple Sclerosis, and one has Rapid Cycling Mixed State. Each was a normal and happy child who showed no signs until their onset. One has a daughter with the disorder and autism.
Trust me when I tell you that these handsome, brilliant, charming men have owned more successful businesses, had more incredibly wonderful women fall for them, traveled more, and dreamed bigger dreams than most. They can be entrancing and then vicious, hard-working and then un-caring, grandiose and then nit-picky. They are something else. It's an intriguing disorder/difference.
I love them with all my heart but I've learned to protect myself, my heart, and my bank account. The funny thing about them is that they would read this and smile as they are not in the least ashamed of who they are or what they've done. After all, they'd tell you, they've lived quite a life.
Another name to watch for:
"In 1998, under the name Jorge Torres alias George Boyd, Jr, he was indicted for bank fraud in Philadelphia. He was sentenced to 12 months in prison, 6 months in a halfway house, 5 years probation and a $5000 fine after pleading guilty to attempting to negotiate a stolen $66,0000 US Treasury check. He appealed his sentence unsuccessfully..........."
more at link:
http://bastardette.blogspot.com/2010/02/who-is-jorge-puello-pt-2-jumping-down.html
I have to hand it to this blogger. There's an amazing amount of info at this site. Lots of angles to check out if one is interested.
"In 1998, under the name Jorge Torres alias George Boyd, Jr, he was indicted for bank fraud in Philadelphia. He was sentenced to 12 months in prison, 6 months in a halfway house, 5 years probation and a $5000 fine after pleading guilty to attempting to negotiate a stolen $66,0000 US Treasury check. He appealed his sentence unsuccessfully..........."
more at link:
http://bastardette.blogspot.com/2010/02/who-is-jorge-puello-pt-2-jumping-down.html
I have to hand it to this blogger. There's an amazing amount of info at this site. Lots of angles to check out if one is interested.
http://cases.justia.com/us-court-of-appeals/F3/209/308/474123/
You can read more about the Jorge Torres ( Jorge Puello ) aka George Boyd, Jr. bank fraud at the link.
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"On September 14, 1997, Jorge Torres, identifying himself as George Boyd, opened a money market account at the Cottman Avenue branch of the Commonwealth Bank in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. He presented photo identification displaying a picture of himself and a non-issued social security number. Ten days later, Torres, again posing as Boyd, returned to the Cottman Avenue branch and opened a second money market account in the name of Kelly Services, Inc. He presented a license in Boyd's name "c/o Kelly" from the Department of Licenses and Inspection and deposited a subsequently dishonored $240.65 third party check made payable to Kelly Services. On the same day, at the Port Richmond branch of the Commonwealth Bank, another individual using Boyd's name (surveillance cameras indicate that it was not Torres) deposited a stolen U.S. Treasury check in the amount of $66,021.94 and payable to Kelly Services into the Kelly Services account. An investigation subsequently established that Torres' fingerprint was on the deposit slip used in that transaction. The following day, Torres, yet again claiming to be Boyd, appeared at the Castor Avenue branch of the Commonwealth Bank and attempted to withdraw $24,900 from the Kelly Services account. The bank refused to permit the withdrawal, advising Torres that the funds were unavailable. Either shortly before or shortly thereafter, the bank came to suspect that the account was fraudulent. It notified the authorities, and Torres was subsequently arrested."
There is more . . .
You can read more about the Jorge Torres ( Jorge Puello ) aka George Boyd, Jr. bank fraud at the link.
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"On September 14, 1997, Jorge Torres, identifying himself as George Boyd, opened a money market account at the Cottman Avenue branch of the Commonwealth Bank in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. He presented photo identification displaying a picture of himself and a non-issued social security number. Ten days later, Torres, again posing as Boyd, returned to the Cottman Avenue branch and opened a second money market account in the name of Kelly Services, Inc. He presented a license in Boyd's name "c/o Kelly" from the Department of Licenses and Inspection and deposited a subsequently dishonored $240.65 third party check made payable to Kelly Services. On the same day, at the Port Richmond branch of the Commonwealth Bank, another individual using Boyd's name (surveillance cameras indicate that it was not Torres) deposited a stolen U.S. Treasury check in the amount of $66,021.94 and payable to Kelly Services into the Kelly Services account. An investigation subsequently established that Torres' fingerprint was on the deposit slip used in that transaction. The following day, Torres, yet again claiming to be Boyd, appeared at the Castor Avenue branch of the Commonwealth Bank and attempted to withdraw $24,900 from the Kelly Services account. The bank refused to permit the withdrawal, advising Torres that the funds were unavailable. Either shortly before or shortly thereafter, the bank came to suspect that the account was fraudulent. It notified the authorities, and Torres was subsequently arrested."
There is more . . .
Some comments by our dentist turned real estate agent in defense of Silsby:
http://online.wsj.com/community/384eefc8-9ecc-4c08-8cc6-0ea59a1f61cb/activity#more
concerning the WSJ articles.
Note: There are a lot of comments. Make sure you keep clicking "more" at the bottom of the page. One of particular interest is the Comment directed to "Michael" from 9 days ago.
http://online.wsj.com/community/384eefc8-9ecc-4c08-8cc6-0ea59a1f61cb/activity#more
concerning the WSJ articles.
Note: There are a lot of comments. Make sure you keep clicking "more" at the bottom of the page. One of particular interest is the Comment directed to "Michael" from 9 days ago.
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Wow....what a mess....I had only seen a bit of this on tv, online...and figured that the "missionaries" were well meaning but foolish, I did think the leader was "hinky"...I read about the "notes" passed from the others about her while they were being held in Haiti
but now...what a really complicated mess...the "President of the Sephardic Jews" guy, the "former dentist" and who else?? The more I am reading about this Laura Sibley the worse it seems
The sad part is that this nonsense detracts from the real need and the real good works that people are doing in Haiti and for Haiti. It is very sad....the last 2 bodies of the Lynn U student and professor have been found in the rubble of the Hotel Montana..these good people went there on an established goodwill charity school misson/class....connected to Food for the Poor
Dr Rich Bruno, whose remains were found today was a friend of mine, fellow Pittsburgher, and a close friend of some people I know...how sad
IMHO these people on their ridiculous child taking/stealing or whatever romp are an insult to the depth of this disaster and the poor people of Haiti and the good people from all over who are risking so much to help them and an insult to Americans
but now...what a really complicated mess...the "President of the Sephardic Jews" guy, the "former dentist" and who else?? The more I am reading about this Laura Sibley the worse it seems
The sad part is that this nonsense detracts from the real need and the real good works that people are doing in Haiti and for Haiti. It is very sad....the last 2 bodies of the Lynn U student and professor have been found in the rubble of the Hotel Montana..these good people went there on an established goodwill charity school misson/class....connected to Food for the Poor
Dr Rich Bruno, whose remains were found today was a friend of mine, fellow Pittsburgher, and a close friend of some people I know...how sad
IMHO these people on their ridiculous child taking/stealing or whatever romp are an insult to the depth of this disaster and the poor people of Haiti and the good people from all over who are risking so much to help them and an insult to Americans
Regarding the ex-dentist's comment/s to Michael. Eight months he and his partner have been working with her. He has probably already made money off of Silsby's plans, and likely stands to make more.
I think all parties involved, have allowed themselves to see this as an economic opportunity. He is, in my opinion, no exception.
The dentist is another sucker, in my opinion.
Thanks for calling our attention to those comments, Izzy.
I think all parties involved, have allowed themselves to see this as an economic opportunity. He is, in my opinion, no exception.
The dentist is another sucker, in my opinion.
Thanks for calling our attention to those comments, Izzy.
With all the other things we now know about Jorge Puello aka Jorge Torres aka George Boyd, Jr., I have to ask how anyone could possibly believe for two seconds that he is a crypto / Sephardic / or any other kind of Jew. Anyone can don the costume and the accoutrements, and that does seem to me to be what it is, and anyone can register a business name or organization, (especially in Florida), and anyone can write stuff on the Wikipedia and all those other Wiki things (such as the History of Jews in El Salvador). It seems that Harry Ezratty fell hook, line, and sinker for his 'story'.
Not only did he claim to be President of Sephardics of Dominican Republic but he also registered himself as President of the Florida Non Profit Corporation called SEPHARDIC ORTHODOX JEWISH COUNCIL OF AMERICA, INC. I mean, good grief people!!!!! His partner and Vice President in that venture is his wife, the one in prison in El Salvador. And, a third person, with last name Orellana is Treasurer. Anyone can sign up and register anything in Florida. And, its all public, anyone can easily see it.
I guess I could say I am a Mayflower descendant, and most would believe me. Yes? Would you give me money because of it? Maybe if I said I was a lawyer who specialized in Mayflower descendants. Hmmmm. Not a bad idea!
Not only did he claim to be President of Sephardics of Dominican Republic but he also registered himself as President of the Florida Non Profit Corporation called SEPHARDIC ORTHODOX JEWISH COUNCIL OF AMERICA, INC. I mean, good grief people!!!!! His partner and Vice President in that venture is his wife, the one in prison in El Salvador. And, a third person, with last name Orellana is Treasurer. Anyone can sign up and register anything in Florida. And, its all public, anyone can easily see it.
I guess I could say I am a Mayflower descendant, and most would believe me. Yes? Would you give me money because of it? Maybe if I said I was a lawyer who specialized in Mayflower descendants. Hmmmm. Not a bad idea!
One of the things I found most interesting in regards to his "partner", was that he NEVER mentioned the partner's name! Makes me wonder if it is someone we have already come across in this story????? Inquiring minds want to know. :innocent:
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