Human Remains/Blue Barrel

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  • #201
Littledeer, they probably already know who it is, especially if it's Stacey and are doing proper notifications, etc. When someone is missing, especially in this case, dental records have already been on stand by in the coroners office in case a body does show up. So those didn't have to be acquired, which takes more time.

They alraedy know.
 
  • #202
The site was located at 34th and Kedzie, and at least six officials could be seen from Sky5 combing through snowy woods. An inspector was touring the site and made the discovery Friday afternoon.


http://www.nbc5.com/news/15140963/de...=headlineclick


If you guys have google earth put in "3500 kedzie,chicago illinois"
Go west on map, that's where you start any kind of forest, following the channel, then the arch of the channel a bit further.

The arch is where (I think) the first search was...
 
  • #203
Really?? I never knew this. Are you saying that the attorney would have to know without a doubt/fact that his/her client did indeed do the crime? How much does he need?

Well, not exactly. In order for the attorney to declare his client innocent and build a case based on innocence, he has to reasonably believe his client IS innocent. In other words, once an attorney finds out for SURE his client is guilty, he now has to either resign from the case or build a defense based on guilt. In other words, he can no longer say "my client didn't kill Mr. X". The case would have to be "My client killed Mr. X but he did it accidentally" or "it was in self-defense". It has to do with ethics; if an attorney who knows for a FACT his client did the deed (maybe the client told him) he can't then LIE to the court and say he believes in his client's innocence!

Maybe Wudge can help us out here in explaining it better. This was my understanding from the few legal classes I took over 15 years ago!
 
  • #204
WELL THEN THEY HAD BETTER HURRY UP AND LET US KNOW!!!!!!!!!!

I don't think I can handle much more of this waiting!! :mad:

If it is Stacy, can DP be arrested on suspicion of her demise today?
 
  • #205
rbt:

Your explanation was fine. Made perfect sense to me. Thanks!! Very interesting............
 
  • #206
WELL THEN THEY HAD BETTER HURRY UP AND LET US KNOW!!!!!!!!!!

I don't think I can handle much more of this waiting!! :mad:

If it is Stacy, can DP be arrested on suspicion of her demise today?

I certainly hope so. Having a body coupled with the fact that their cadaver dogs got hits in the home and car sure should make it easier for them!
 
  • #207
Those poor children.................hope someone is close by watching DP's house!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
  • #208
Okay, on the ethics issue, I just looked it up and found this blurb. It states something along the lines of what I was trying to say. If an attorney knows his client is guilty, he should not then introduce perjured testimony. Which, if I remember, includes pleading innocent. That of course is a problem for an attorney!

http://www.allacademic.com/meta/p94662_index.html
 
  • #209
This case may not be related to Stacey at all, but I am anxious to learn as we all are. Can you imagine what her family is going through? Ugh, my heart goes out to them.

I think the telephone game happens all the time everywhere. Often there is no harm intended, and we just repeat what we have heard, read or seen a little differently--and it goes down the line. That's why I try not to speculate too much until I have more facts. Speculations can often take you off in a tangent, but speculations based on inaccurate info can turn a story sideways.

Thinking more about it, I don't know if DP would chance trying to race to the scene to remove, "the barrel". If he was caught drivng off with a barrel that would just look so bad. Or if he were pulled over with the barell before he dumped it for a second time, it wouldn't look so good. He knows all of LE has address and model, make, and plate of his vehicles. I would think that a killer would want to keep himself distanced for psychological reasons, too. Who knows? He is one twisted man.

Even if there is no barrel, and that it may have been a mistake in the reporting of a blue barrel/trashcan, the body could still be Stacey's. There is no proof that Stacey was dumped inside of and along with a barrel. There may well have been a barrel involved, but we don't know exactly what happened.

I have to run off to train now, but I am so anxious to learn if there are any new details in this case. Have a great day sleuthers:).

Lion
 
  • #210
Lion:

Thanks for the mind of reason! You are so right! We should keep a level head and not make assumptions at this time until more facts are known. It does not serve any purpose.

Does anyone have an account for the FSP site? What are they saying over there? They might know more than we do. I know, but inquiring minds want to know. :)

rbt:

So, in the cases where the defense attorney is pleading insanity, etc. they probably in most cases know their client is guilty?

That is how I am reading your last post.
 
  • #211
Good points. I have to add that I don't believe the barrel was a red herring, for the reason that Drew has always been trying so hard to make this a missing person's case. His story from the beginning was that Stacy ran off with another man. To allow people to start seeing him with barrels plants suspicion in people's minds and automatically turns the spotlight on him. I'm not convinced he was purposefully trying to turn the spotlight onto himself. It would have served him better to have had NOBODY see a blue barrel, and to stick with his disappearance story.
 
  • #212
Fox news is now reporting the remains are of a white female. Guys this is probably Stacey, or maybe Lisa. I think it's Stacey. Reporting it's not far from where she went missing, under 30 miles.

I like the drop of the barrel from the airplane theory, but we have testimony from the step brother concerning the blue barrell he helped drew dispose of since we now know the body is in tact.


Drew's plane is an ultralight (sp?). It's almost alike a bicycle with wings. It wouldn't hold a barrel. It's just a little plaything....couldn't have happened. I lean towards a place he knew of from police work----plenty of places.
 
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Does anyone know what color hair Lisa Stebic had? I seriously doubt it is her based on how long Lisa has been missing, but .............
 
  • #215
They are as much awaiting the results of the autopsy as we are here, LD. FSP doesn't seem to have any more information than we do and probably not as much actually.

I wish that the media were still staked out in Bolingbrook, but they have...for the most part...gone on to other cases and the presidential election (the primary is the lead story today nationwide). If they were still there...we would be hearing of the family physically meeting at BPD or ISP for notification, they would have Drew's place covered, and they would be all over this story. Unfortunately, it isn't the case and we will have to wait.
 
  • #216
Does anyone know what color hair Lisa Stebic had? I seriously doubt it is her based on how long Lisa has been missing, but .............
Aha! You aren't going back and reading posts...gotcha! I stated already two or three times that Lisa Stebic has very dark hair. Please refer to her site: www.findLisaStebic.com for photos.
 
  • #217
SS:

I am so sorry.........you did catch me in not going back and reading posts. (guess I haven't sharpened my antlers yet today!). However, I am STOMPING!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well someone did mention that the remains found had reddish blond hair....
couldn't the hair color turn if it was in water for a long period of time or nearby some chemical?
 
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This was posted from the Herald News about 1 hr ago. Do not know if this is fact!
January 26, 2008
from staff reports
The remains of the woman found on Chicago's southwest side near an overturned blue barrel is not Stacy Peterson, an official said. The remains of the woman do not match the "profile" of Stacy Peterson, the official said.
 
  • #220
SS:

I am so sorry.........you did catch me in not going back and reading posts. (guess I haven't sharpened my antlers yet today!). However, I am STOMPING!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well someone did mention that the remains found had reddish blond hair....
couldn't the hair color turn if it was in water for a long period of time or nearby some chemical?

Yes, pool chlorine comes to mind. I'm recalling my creepy body melting research. I had theorized that pool chlorine, with a body sealed in a container would create a very explosive situation. I don't know if it would throw a body 25 feet. But the container would not stay intact.
 
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