Hurricane Irma - #2
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FlossyMay had asked about storm surge:
[video=cnn;weather/2017/09/09/hurricane-irma-storm-surge-threat-orig-mg.cnn]http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/09/us/hurricane-irma-storm-surge-explained/index.html[/video]
[video=cnn;weather/2017/09/09/hurricane-irma-storm-surge-threat-orig-mg.cnn]http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/09/us/hurricane-irma-storm-surge-explained/index.html[/video]
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Tie down straps.
What is that on the house? Bungee cords?
[video=twitter;906683666377658369]https://twitter.com/EricBurrisWESH/status/906683666377658369[/video]
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Parts of the Florida Keys will experience extreme winds and storm surge. On its west-northwest heading late Saturday, Irma was aimed toward the west of Key West, which would put the the city on the storm's more dangerous right-hand side. However, Irma is beginning to angle rightward, and this will most likely bring its core somewhere between Key West and Islamoradaperhaps close to Marathonbetween around 2 and 8 am Sunday. Winds of 120 mph or more can be expected just east of the eye, and storm surge is predicted to range from 5 to 10 feet.
A catastrophic storm surge is increasingly likely from Fort Myers to Naples on Sunday afternoon*as Irma passes along or just to the west of this coastline. Surge values of 10 to 15 feet are expected from Cape Sable to Captiva. Vanderbilt Beach at Naples experienced a*peak surge of 10-13 feet during Hurricane Charley, and Captiva Island experienced a surge of 6.5 feet.*Irmas surge will be more widespread and devastating to southwest Florida than the surge experienced during Charley, since Irma is a much bigger storm and has had more time to build up a larger surge. Parts of this coastline may also experience destructive Category 2 or 3 winds if Irma intensifies as expected and its center remains just offshore. Assuming that Irma moves inland between Fort Myers and Tampa as predicted, surge values northward through the Tampa area will be somewhat lower, but still potentially 5 to 8 feet. It would take a significant jump westward in the forecast track to put Tampa on the more dangerous right-hand side of the storm.
https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/irma-reorganizes-en-route-devastating-florida-hit
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A catastrophic storm surge is increasingly likely from Fort Myers to Naples on Sunday afternoon*as Irma passes along or just to the west of this coastline. Surge values of 10 to 15 feet are expected from Cape Sable to Captiva. Vanderbilt Beach at Naples experienced a*peak surge of 10-13 feet during Hurricane Charley, and Captiva Island experienced a surge of 6.5 feet.*Irmas surge will be more widespread and devastating to southwest Florida than the surge experienced during Charley, since Irma is a much bigger storm and has had more time to build up a larger surge. Parts of this coastline may also experience destructive Category 2 or 3 winds if Irma intensifies as expected and its center remains just offshore. Assuming that Irma moves inland between Fort Myers and Tampa as predicted, surge values northward through the Tampa area will be somewhat lower, but still potentially 5 to 8 feet. It would take a significant jump westward in the forecast track to put Tampa on the more dangerous right-hand side of the storm.
https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/irma-reorganizes-en-route-devastating-florida-hit
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Didn't FEMA run out of money today? (Saw a report projecting Saturday earlier in the week)
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Marking this, thanks.
Cuba is taking a beating. ☹️
GOES-16 satellite image of Irma taken at 6:39 pm EDT Saturday, September 9, 2017. Multiple concentric eyewalls created a spiraling pattern. GOES-16 images are preliminary and non-operational. Image credit:*NOAA/RAMMB.
Hurricane Hunters found on a late-afternoon flight that Irma had developed concentric eyewalls, with an inner eyewall about 17 miles wide and an outer one about 35 miles wide. The dual-eyewall structure means that Irma’s peak sustained winds are somewhat lower than before (120 mph as of 8 pm EDT), but spread out over a broader area.*
Irma’s inner core spent more time over Cuba than forecasters had expected, although the track forecast overall was quite good. The resulting interaction with land disrupted Irma’s core and reduced the strength and coverage of its core thunderstorms. Satellite imagery late Saturday afternoon showed that Irma was having only fitful success at reorganizing its intense thunderstorms around the outer eyewall. Irma will be moving over very warm waters Saturday night (sea surface temperature of around 30°C or 86°F), and wind shear will remain light to moderate. Outflow from the storm’s top will be enhanced by two jets, one on the north and one on the south. Irma’s dual eyewall structure and its large size will put some brakes on rapid intensification, but some strengthening appears likely, and we expect Irma to reach the Florida Keys early Sunday and southwest Florida by midday Sunday as a Category 4 storm, as predicted by NHC.
https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/irma-reorganizes-en-route-devastating-florida-hit
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no such thing as ignorance yeh visually
it is what it is like I think a lot of people visualize it as like an event when it actually is like a tsunami it keeps coming in -- its not like a wave that comes in and goes out it keeps coming in
also visually it can be perceived as a tidal wave but only in the context that is
pushed up and piled on water as the hurricane moves across the ocean.
As it gets closer to land the the ground
is shallower so it rises up and up allowing to overflow obstacles
lots of variations in terms of how it landfalls cause the wind can keep - for hours keep pushing the water inland ) what this is going to be.
As she slows down in forward motion very bad for storm surge cause the winds just keep pushing the water in
In storms like Ike and Ivan those closest to the beach are pretty much swept away - its a wall of water coming at things at high speeds cause of the speed of the winds
it kills the most people in hurricanes not the wind
cars are floating in the water at high speeds destroyed houses and trees are zooming along banging into other stuff destroying them debris builds up and keep mowing over the stuff ahead of it
so yeh it is a lot like a tsunami which in preinciple is the same thing a bunch of water suddenly thrown upward but is not really seen until it rises up as it gets closer to land and in shallower water it just rises and reise
I learned a lot from the big one the first time I saw it it was not at all what I expected I did not think the ocean just keeps and keeps and keeps and keeps coming in it wigged me out totally
tsunamis that start out far in the ocean travel at 600 mph and you cant even see it on top of the water
during the big one there were tons of ships out in the ocean that had no idea the were on top of it it looks and acts like just a regular little wave
notice how nothing it is when it is in deep water
90 second animation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLFtDiGV1Ao
really bad stuff i am sorry to say
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Direct link to Duval St cam in front of Sloppy Joe's from JerseyGirl's post:
https://youtu.be/PbAh78NvJZk
https://youtu.be/PbAh78NvJZk
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Nope....but CNN wanted you to believe it with a headline "FEMA could run out of cash this weekend". I really don't watch any mainstream news anymore...
Inside the article it says this...
The House*passed an emergency relief bill Wednesday*that would provide $7.85 billion in emergency funds -- the vast majority of which to FEMA, with some going to the Small Business Administration.
The Senate is expected to vote on that bill Thursday, tacking on another $7.4 billion in emergency funds for a total of $15.25 billion for FEMA's disaster relief fund.
On top of that, the Senate is voting on another $6.7 billion for funds that were already slated to go to FEMA in a spending bill that keeps the government open for another three months.
Once the bill goes back to the House -- so it can vote on additions made in the Senate -- Congress will have voted on close to $22 billion in funds for disaster relief.
[video=cnn;politics/2017/08/27/sotu-long-full-interview.cnn]http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/07/politics/fema-funding-disaster-relief/index.html[/video]
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That is just for fema to send you a text for the nearest shelters that are open and have vacancies
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Sad....but they do have excellent safety protocols for weather events....
"Fortunately, Cuba experienced the less intense left-hand side of the storm, and chances are the islands excellent disaster preparedness strategy kept deaths and injuries to a minimum."
https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/irma-reorganizes-en-route-devastating-florida-hit
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My area Tampa Bay:
https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/irma-reorganizes-en-route-devastating-florida-hit
Tampas hurricane history: only two major hurricanes since 1848
Tampa Bay doesn't get hit very often by hurricanes. This is because the city faces the ocean to the west, and the prevailing east-to-west trade winds at that latitude make it uncommon for a storm to make a direct hit on the west coast of Florida from the ocean. This is fortunate, since the large expanse of shallow continental shelf waters offshore from Tampa Bay (less than 300 feet deep out to 90 miles offshore) is conducive for allowing large storm surges to build. Tampa Bay is most vulnerable to large storm surges from storms approaching from the southwest or west and passing just north of the city, since the westerly winds in the hurricane's eyewall will force a massive storm surge directly into the bay. Tampa Bay is much less vulnerable to large storm surges from a storm approaching from the south, like Irma, since the hurricane's winds will be blowing offshore until the eye of the storm passes to the north. At that time, the winds will reverse and bring a storm surge into Tampa Bay.
The last time Tampa suffered a direct hit by any hurricane was 1946, when a Category 1 storm came up through the bay. The Tampa Bay Hurricane of October 25, 1921 was a the last major hurricane to make landfall in the Tampa Bay Region. This low-end Category 3 storm with 115 mph winds at landfall brought a storm tide of 10 - 11.5 feet (3 - 3.5 meters), causing severe damage ($10 million in 1921 dollars.) The only other major hurricane to hit the city occurred on September 25, 1848, when the Great Gale of 1848, the most violent hurricane in Tampa's history, roared ashore as a Category 3 or 4 hurricane with 115 - 135 mph winds. A 15-foot storm surge (4.6 meters) was observed in what is now downtown Tampa, and the peninsula where St. Petersburg lies, in Pinellas County, was inundated, making St. Petersburg an island. A large portion of what few human structures were then in the area were destroyed.
https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/irma-reorganizes-en-route-devastating-florida-hit
Tampas hurricane history: only two major hurricanes since 1848
Tampa Bay doesn't get hit very often by hurricanes. This is because the city faces the ocean to the west, and the prevailing east-to-west trade winds at that latitude make it uncommon for a storm to make a direct hit on the west coast of Florida from the ocean. This is fortunate, since the large expanse of shallow continental shelf waters offshore from Tampa Bay (less than 300 feet deep out to 90 miles offshore) is conducive for allowing large storm surges to build. Tampa Bay is most vulnerable to large storm surges from storms approaching from the southwest or west and passing just north of the city, since the westerly winds in the hurricane's eyewall will force a massive storm surge directly into the bay. Tampa Bay is much less vulnerable to large storm surges from a storm approaching from the south, like Irma, since the hurricane's winds will be blowing offshore until the eye of the storm passes to the north. At that time, the winds will reverse and bring a storm surge into Tampa Bay.
The last time Tampa suffered a direct hit by any hurricane was 1946, when a Category 1 storm came up through the bay. The Tampa Bay Hurricane of October 25, 1921 was a the last major hurricane to make landfall in the Tampa Bay Region. This low-end Category 3 storm with 115 mph winds at landfall brought a storm tide of 10 - 11.5 feet (3 - 3.5 meters), causing severe damage ($10 million in 1921 dollars.) The only other major hurricane to hit the city occurred on September 25, 1848, when the Great Gale of 1848, the most violent hurricane in Tampa's history, roared ashore as a Category 3 or 4 hurricane with 115 - 135 mph winds. A 15-foot storm surge (4.6 meters) was observed in what is now downtown Tampa, and the peninsula where St. Petersburg lies, in Pinellas County, was inundated, making St. Petersburg an island. A large portion of what few human structures were then in the area were destroyed.
Also posted upthread...I'll post again...
Amber DeBevec, the owner of Key West's Finest, told weather.com that Mani was being celebrated for his kind act and that the chickens were delivered out of harm's way.
"Jayesh Mani is the man on a mission," DeBevec said. "The chickens have been delivered to another helpful friend in Key West and are safe."
https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/key-west-chickens-rescued-viral-photo
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(O/T, I'm quite disturbed by this "fake news" phenomenon during Harvey and Irma...people composing fake videos from old footage from previous storms, etc....)
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