...I 'advize' you to be rested?

[Ames]

Patsy used her left hand IMO. Even though she could write with both it was harder to write with her left. Add to that the attempt to disquise the handwriting and you have Patsy writing the note.

I would be my life and the life of any one I know on it. It's a fact. If you look at the facts without trying to jump through hoops showing that she didn't do it.
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And I totally agree with you. Holdon was wondering why RDI's believed that Patsy's sample RN was messier than the original. I believe also that the orginal was written with her left hand, and her left hand sample RN was messier, because she was taking drugs at the time. Guess she had to stay drugged up to be able to live with herself, and what she had done!!​

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[JMO8778]

I agree as well.And it is utterly absurd to think that Patzy didn't know how to spell the word advise correctly.That's just downright silly.

 

[Ames]

Could it be that intentional disquising of the handwriting as best as she could in a pinch was the reason the ransome note required starting over at least a time or two.... hummmmmm

That would be my guess too....the practice RN's (and I believe that all of those pages that were missing...were ALL the beginnings of the RN)...were just not quite messy enough. You know..those SFF folks, just don't have very neat handwriting.

 

[Ames]

I agree as well.And it is utterly absurd to think that Patzy didn't know how to spell the word advise correctly.That's just downright silly.

Yez, I know it is! I mean, her with that Journalizm major and everything. She obviouzly mizzpelled advize on purpoze.

 

[DeeDee249]

i believe a period would certainly look different depending of whether it was written with a felt tip or ballpoint. Despite what seems to be a universally identical symbol, people DO make periods differently. Some make it like a dot that almost pierces the paper, some look like a tiny dash or curve when magnified. I'd think that a felt tip might "spread" the dot a bit; make it flatter or wider.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Again, since nobody even noticed these misspellings, I'm not buying that there was any conspiracy to alter spellings, or that any such conspiracy could be automatically deduced now, years later, as RDI has done here.

The deliberate misspelling is just an assumption at this point. It seems that the RN author and PR spell words differently, and that makes perfect sense if and only if they are not one and the same. Callan, another IDI, noted the 'advize' misspelling and he seemed to believe it should eliminate PR as the RN author.

How many 'inconclusives' and 'negative matches' does RDI need to read about to get a clue?? With all these massively overconfident claims that PR wrote the note, you'd think the whole ABFDE stood up and volunteered PR wrote it.

That sure didn't happen.

 

[Ames]

i believe a period would certainly look different depending of whether it was written with a felt tip or ballpoint. Despite what seems to be a universally identical symbol, people DO make periods differently. Some make it like a dot that almost pierces the paper, some look like a tiny dash or curve when magnified. I'd think that a felt tip might "spread" the dot a bit; make it flatter or wider.

My point was...that the RN author used a Sharpie (felt tip), and that Patsy used a Sharpie (felt tip)...but not the same one. Everyone knows that felt tip pens get flatter, the more that you use them...and depending on how much pressure is applied when writing with one. So, this tells me...that all of the words and markings written with the Sharpie on the ORIGINAL RN...will not look the same as all of the words and markings written with the Sharpie on the SAMPLE RN. IOW...the pen that Patsy used to write the SAMPLE with, could have been the reason for the different looking periods at the end of the sentences. But, as I have said before...it doesn't matter WHAT either of the notes were written with...nothing...absolutely nothing can account for the fact that Patsy's q's and the RN author's q's were identical....like a figure 8. And that is just ONE example...there are many more where that one came from. Some of the strokes though..as well as periods, question marks, etc...may look different...because she used a different pen, than the author of the RN used.

 

[Ames]

Again, since nobody even noticed these misspellings, I'm not buying that there was any conspiracy to alter spellings, or that any such conspiracy could be automatically deduced now, years later, as RDI has done here.

The deliberate misspelling is just an assumption at this point. It seems that the RN author and PR spell words differently, and that makes perfect sense if and only if they are not one and the same. Callan, another IDI, noted the 'advize' misspelling and he seemed to believe it should eliminate PR as the RN author.

How many 'inconclusives' and 'negative matches' does RDI need to read about to get a clue?? With all these massively overconfident claims that PR wrote the note, you'd think the whole ABFDE stood up and volunteered PR wrote it.

That sure didn't happen.

I wouldn't say that since one or two of us RDI's didn't notice....that NOBODY noticed. That is very inaccurate.

I have only read about one negative match...the rest were either inconclusive...or positive matches.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

I wouldn't say that since one or two of us RDI's didn't notice....that NOBODY noticed. That is very inaccurate.

OK, if that is sooo inaccurate, who do you know of that noticed PR misspelled 'advise'?

I have only read about one negative match...the rest were either inconclusive...or positive matches.

There's more than one negative, and the ones typically quoted here as positive aren't really that positive.

 

[Ames]

OK, if that is sooo inaccurate, who do you know of that noticed PR misspelled 'advise'?



There's more than one negative, and the ones typically quoted here as positive aren't really that positive.

Holdon, I am fairly new to the case. As far as I know...every poster here...except for me and one other...(I can't remember if it is JMO or Rashomon)...knew about Patsy misspelling advise. I posted this over on FFJ..and everybody there...knew about it...it was old news. I have only been studying this case, and on these JBR boards for about a year.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Holdon, I am fairly new to the case. As far as I know...every poster here...except for me and one other...(I can't remember if it is JMO or Rashomon)...knew about Patsy misspelling advise. I posted this over on FFJ..and everybody there...knew about it...it was old news. I have only been studying this case, and on these JBR boards for about a year.

There doesn't seem to be much discussion on the 'advize' topic prior to now, except for a bit last year on another forum where Callan brought it up.

 

[rashomon]

Holdon, I am fairly new to the case. As far as I know...every poster here...except for me and one other...(I can't remember if it is JMO or Rashomon)...knew about Patsy misspelling advise.

Yep, that was me.

Holdontoyourhat: do you have the primary source where it says that Patsy misspelled advise in the samples she gave? Is it in one of the books on the case?

 

[RiverRat]

There doesn't seem to be much discussion on the 'advize' topic prior to now, except for a bit last year on another forum where Callan brought it up.

Oh please....after a decade - it's been covered as much as the other mispellings that Patsy tossed in there to throw people off of her track

 

[JMO8778]

There's another factor to writing left-handed,I just happened to think about it since my son is left-handed...anyway,some left-handers hold the pen/pencil differently from the way a right-handed person does,i.e.-my son writes with it facing upwards.I would think that would be a factor,if Patsy chose to hold the pen differently than she did when she wrote the RN,when she was writing the left-handed samples.

 

[Ames]

There doesn't seem to be much discussion on the 'advize' topic prior to now, except for a bit last year on another forum where Callan brought it up.

It was also discussed on FFJ, from what I have been told.

 

[Ames]

Yep, that was me.

Holdontoyourhat: do you have the primary source where it says that Patsy misspelled advise in the samples she gave? Is it in one of the books on the case?

Rash, its on acandyrose's site...under Patsy's Handwriting...or something like that. It was on the front of one of those TABLOID JUNK magazines..(that Holdon always says that the RDI's get their info. from....ironic, huh?) Click on Patsy's Handwriting...and then click on the two RN SAMPLE notes. You will have to magnifiy it, in order to be able to tell that the Z in advize, is not an s. That is why I never noticed it before.

 

[rashomon]

Rash, its on acandyrose's site...under Patsy's Handwriting...or something like that. It was on the front of one of those TABLOID JUNK magazines..(that Holdon always says that the RDI's get their info. from....ironic, huh?) Click on Patsy's Handwriting...and then click on the two RN SAMPLE notes. You will have to magnifiy it, in order to be able to tell that the Z in advize, is not an s. That is why I never noticed it before.

Thanks Ames for directing me to the handwriting samples. It is simply incredible how similar the samples look to the original, despite Patsy's efforts to camouflage that she was the RN writer.

 

[JMO8778]

Rash, its on acandyrose's site...under Patsy's Handwriting...or something like that. It was on the front of one of those TABLOID JUNK magazines..(that Holdon always says that the RDI's get their info. from....ironic, huh?) Click on Patsy's Handwriting...and then click on the two RN SAMPLE notes. You will have to magnifiy it, in order to be able to tell that the Z in advize, is not an s. That is why I never noticed it before.

..from me,too,thx.and I noticed she didn't misspell it all the time.only on 2 of them is all I noticed.guess that's why Hold didn't want to direct us to them?

 

[Ames]

Thanks Ames for directing me to the handwriting samples. It is simply incredible how similar the samples look to the original, despite Patsy's efforts to camouflage that she was the RN writer.

You are welcome!!

I KNOW...the resemblance is UNCANNY!!

 

[Ames]

..from me,too,thx.and I noticed she didn't misspell it all the time.only on 2 of them is all I noticed.guess that's why Hold didn't want to direct us to them?

I did notice too, that her handwriting was neat and tidy, in the existing documents...the ones that she wrote before she accidently killed her daughter..and had to disquise her handwriting.