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I've wondered about the zoo and the aquarium. I haven't heard a thing.
 
Ntegrity said:
I've wondered about the zoo and the aquarium. I haven't heard a thing.

The zoo and aqaurium sustained minimal damage. The only death was a fish at the aquarium who was sick prior to the hurricane.
 
The parents of a friend are still stuck in NO. The could not drive out . They are elderly . They were notified yesterday that they needed to walk 9 blocks to where a bus will pick them up to take them to Baton Rouge where their daughter can meet them. They have been living on the second floor of their house for the last week as the first floor is flooded. These 80+ year old people have to walk 9 blocks threw 2 ft of water. They will not be allowed to take their 12 year old pet on the bus. They have to leave it behind in the house to die.
 
Olivia77 said:
The zoo and aqaurium sustained minimal damage. The only death was a fish at the aquarium who was sick prior to the hurricane.
Really?! I am happy to hear that! Where did you get that information? Are the animals being cared for? I image the zoo had a large stock of food and supplies right there. And fortunately, for the animals, their food is not desirable to humans.
 
nanandjim said:
I agree. To me, "victim" means something bad has happened to someone beyond his/her control. I think that we are labeling everyone affected by the storm as "victims." In actuality, many of those left behind chose not to leave even though they were given advance warning and offered assistance to do so.

I wouldn't want to be in that position, no matter what. However, I feel the worst for the true victims that didn't have the ability to leave the city. :(

Oh, please. The hurricane was beyond anyone's control - so to that extent they ARE all victims.

But, yes, some people - maybe most people - contribute in some way to their own misfortunate. They buy tickets for the Titanic, they go sightseeing at the WTC on the wrong day, they ignore warnings from a government that has lied repeatedly to them in the past.

Compassion for so-called "innocent" victims is cheap. A generous spirit shows compassion for the unfortuante despite their mistakes.
 
Casshew said:
Why is homeland security even involved? this has nothing to do with terrorism it's a natural disaster :confused: do they think al qaeda is behind the levees breaking?:confused:

They have to send someone in. Bush has been dismantling FEMA since 9/11. This was going to be the department's last year of existence.
 
Olivia77 said:
The zoo and aqaurium sustained minimal damage. The only death was a fish at the aquarium who was sick prior to the hurricane.
I just found this article:

The Audubon Aquarium of the Americas in New Orleans apparently survived Hurricane Katrina relatively unscathed according to a report in The Baltimore Sun. Hurricane Katrina hit the Louisiana city Monday.

According to Ron Forman, president of the Audubon Nature Institute that oversees the city's aquarium and zoo, only a few flamingos died and was little other loss of animal life. The Audubon Zoo also fared well in the storm suffering limited damage from fallen trees.

More at the website.
 
CNN just showed a reporter at the airport (I think) holding up a little puppy named Goliath who had been found tied to a tree in a yard. He was there for 2-3 days. The family was not allowed to take him on an evacuation bus. He's a very cute and VERY LUCKY puppy.
 
Nova said:
The hurricane was beyond anyone's control - so to that extent they ARE all victims.
Their response wasn't beyond their control. Many people should have taken a MANDATORY evacuation to mean mandatory. I do feel very bad for the ones who couldn't leave for whatever reason. Those who chose to stay have to assume some responsibility for their own fate. Yes, the government response was inadequate, on both state and federal levels, but they can't bear all the blame.
 
Ntegrity said:
That's a good point. I would never leave my animals behind, no matter what. Every community should have an emergency plan that takes this into consideration. My local kennel club has worked with the local agencies to develop a plan for pets. It's very important to people that their animals have a safe place to ride out the storm.
We actually took our dog with us when we evacuated from Florida during Hurricane Frederick. We could not bring him into the National Armory. So, we took turns going out to the car, looking after him, letting him out of the car, etc. It was a hassle, but we did it.

I understand that pets are like children and very much dependent on their owners. I kind of raised my eyebrows when I heard the recommendation was to just let them go free to give them a chance at survival.

There should be a plan for pets. However, I can well imagine that the planning would take about as much or even more than it would for people!
 
Ntegrity said:
That's a good point. I would never leave my animals behind, no matter what. Every community should have an emergency plan that takes this into consideration. My local kennel club has worked with the local agencies to develop a plan for pets. It's very important to people that their animals have a safe place to ride out the storm.

Nor would I leave my cat, guys. I can agree in theory that my priority is wrong, but that's how I feel.
 
less0305 said:
:rolleyes: <------- Me standing over there with Nan.
:doh: <-----------Me right there with you all!

I hate it when the city and state drops the ball and then whines that the US Gov. isn't "taking care of them". :hand:

Just as in 9/11, some can't help but politicize it. Gotta bring up all the "right" words to use. Makes me want to barf.:sick:

Edited to update the corner counter. :angel:
 
Ntegrity said:
Their response wasn't beyond their control. Many people should have taken a MANDATORY evacuation to mean mandatory. I do feel very bad for the ones who couldn't leave for whatever reason. Those who chose to stay have to assume some responsibility for their own fate. Yes, the government response was inadequate, on both state and federal levels, but they can't bear all the blame.

If you read my entire post you would have discovered that I already acknowledged and addressed the fact that people contribute to their misfortune.

We have a government that lies to us repeatedly and without conscience. So let's don't be surprised that some people stop listening.
 
Nova said:
We have a government that lies to us repeatedly and without conscience. So let's don't be surprised that some people stop listening.
Oh brother!! I won't even bother commenting on that one.
 
Ntegrity said:
That is the most disgusting thing I've ever seen. I hope they get the book thrown at them.
I just have to shake my head. How absolutely disgusting. If nothing else, I hope that Walmart prosecutes.
 
Nova said:
If you read my entire post you would have discovered that I already acknowledged and addressed the fact that people contribute to their misfortune.
Yes, you did but you put it in the context of being a passenger on the Titanic. A better scenario would be that the people on the Titanic were told the ship would sink but they still chose to risk it because they wanted to say they were on its maiden voyage. :rolleyes:
 
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