I am so Angry

[Dara]

Dara,

IMO it's his JOB to take the blame! The only excuse I can even imagine is he didn't receive accurate intelligence. If that was the case, it's STILL his fault for not having competent people around him. ( All the man had to do was turn on the damn TV, how hard is that?)

I agree. As Ted Koppel said to Michael Brown after he kept saying he didn't know this and that: "Don't you guys watch television?"

 

[less0305]

If you think it's fixed, cool. But what he did came way too late, and thank goodness most of world is aware of it.

Well, amazingly, once he sent the guard in....people got out.

 

[Dara]

Well, amazingly, once he sent the guard in....people got out.

Well, except for the dead ones. Some of whom died in the convention center after having been there for days before Michael Brown knew it, though we all did.

I'm so glad the world is outraged. I'd hate to think human life means so little now.

 

[JBean]

Because it is against the law for him to ........he cannot and he was pissed at the governor when she didn't do her job.

SOP in disaster is for city/state to be self sufficient for 72 hours while waiting for federal help.
On a personal level it is important that each individual be prepared so they can wait for state/city aid. That's why we make disaster kits for such emergencies.Food, flashlights, water,etc etc. Along those lines it is critical that a city/state have their own evacuation, disaster,preparedness plan of action while they are waiting for FEMA to come on scene. Just like I want to be as self sufficient as possible while waiting for city/state aid, a state /city should have a plan until federal help arrives. New Orleans was winging it IMO and didn't have a clue what to do with it's citizens. that is positively frightening to me.
better believe i am going to find out what my city has available to me in case of natural disaster and how long it will take for me to access it.Then i can prepare for my family accordingly.

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

SOP in disaster is for city/state to be self sufficient for 72 hours while waiting for federal help.
On a personal level it is important that each individual be prepared so they can wait for state/city aid. That's why we make disaster kits for such emergencies.Food, flashlights, water,etc etc. Along those lines it is critical that a city/state have their own evacuation, disaster,preparedness plan of action while they are waiting for FEMA to come on scene. Just like I want to be as self sufficient as possible while waiting for city/state aid, a state /city should have a plan until federal help arrives. New Orleans was winging it IMO and didn't have a clue what to do with it's citizens. that is positively frightening to me.
better believe i am going to find out what my city has available to me in case of natural disaster and how long it will take for me too access it.Then i can prepare for my family accordingly.

:clap:

(And glad you're doing well enough to contribute here! Take care!)

 

[Tom'sGirl]

And she drowned Friday night. She drowned Friday night.


Wait.....she made it through a hurricane. She made it through the initial onslaught of rising water. The water stopped rising like by what, Wednesday at the latest. The water never rose any higher - and in fact they said it decreased 4 to 6 inches. How did she "drown" on Friday? I'd have to have an explanation of that.

Me too less,something missing here............. I personally think he was relating a story someone in the building told him myself and was emotionally unable to control himself to make that point straight!

Just a little while ago the Mayor said he saw the guy who jumped to his death at the Superdome, when in fact I know he wasn't right there when it happened, but was told.

 

[less0305]

Me too less,something missing here............. I personally think he was relating a story someone in the building told him myself and was emotionally unable to control himself to make that point straight!

Just a little while ago the Mayor said he saw the guy who jumped to his death at the Superdome, when in fact I know he wasn't right there when it happened, but was told.

THANK YOU! I noticed that same thing about the jumping death. Me thinks he has some trouble with telling the truth. And then he makes that little helicopter flight and throws some bottles of water down. The camera cut off just before the water bottles hit....but I can just bet that as high up as they were those bottles busted open on that roof, otherwise they would have shown the gentleman on the roof scooping them up. It was all a PR ploy.

 

[kgeaux]

Well, except for the dead ones. Some of whom died in the convention center after having been there for days before Michael Brown knew it, though we all did.

I'm so glad the world is outraged. I'd hate to think human life means so little now.

Dara, I'm going to acknowledge right off the bat that this is a poor excuse: You and I were sitting in our homes with power, watching this unfold on TV. Those on the ground in New Orleans had NO power, NO Tv. Is it possible that we were actually the better informed?

The second thing I want to say, is that there was no one person who took charge. It was like 45 Indians with no chief, no one knew what anyone else was doing. There doesn't seem to have been any central command, until the Feds finally got there.

 

[bulletgirl2002]

I've posted articles and links stating she did ask, and I keep reading claims that she didn't with no support. Do you know this for a fact, and that this law still applies in a federal emergency or are you believing what you've read other posters say? I want to know for a fact what is true.

In a federal emergency with people dying, I find it hard to believe the president can't send in troops. And I find it hard to believe that Blanco refused them when she accepted them last Sunday from New Mexico, but paperwork didn't come from Washington until Thursday (per a Yahoo article I posted an excerpt from and linked to in another thread). I just want to know the truth and I don't feel we're there yet.

http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2005/09/federal-government-tried-legal.php

I guess he could have, but there was a lot of political chest beating going on with the governor....the feds asked to take over Friday night and the governor, fearing politicial .......I think he should have said FU to the governor and done it anyhow....so he is to blame there...but politics is politics

 

[Ntegrity]

Those on the ground in New Orleans had NO power, NO Tv. Is it possible that we were actually the better informed?

After going through Hurricane Opal, I can assure you everyone in the country knew what was going on besides those of us in the middle of the destruction!! We had to get news from our son and friends in other states.

 

[Dara]

http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2005/09/federal-government-tried-legal.php

I guess he could have, but there was a lot of political chest beating going on with the governor....

Thank you!

I feel much better in one way knowing that at times like this, the president has the power to take over. I am very, very anguished that we have a president who did not exercise that power.

 

[kgeaux]

Thank you!

I feel much better in one way knowing that at times like this, the president has the power to take over. I am very, very anguished that we have a president who did not exercise that power.

Are you also anguished over the fact that the governor of Louisiana turned this into a power play? While people drowned?

 

[Dara]

Dara, I'm going to acknowledge right off the bat that this is a poor excuse: You and I were sitting in our homes with power, watching this unfold on TV. Those on the ground in New Orleans had NO power, NO Tv. Is it possible that we were actually the better informed?

I find it reasonable that I might be better informed than evacuees. I find it reasonable to believe that I might be better informed than doctors and nurses and police officers and volunteers. I do not find it reasonable that I was better informed than the head of FEMA.

I'm not sure I buy that he didn't know. He said, I swear, on Thursday he said he hadn't heard of any unrest. Hadn't FEMA suspended rescue efforts by then because of shooting? So, well, if that isn't unrest, what the heck is?

The second thing I want to say, is that there was no one person who took charge. It was like 45 Indians with no chief, no one knew what anyone else was doing. There doesn't seem to have been any central command, until the Feds finally got there.

Oh, I agree. That seems obvious. Now, as I heard it, Brown got credit from Bush banghead: ) for running the show, so he was apparently the one who was supposed to. But even evacuees I heard interviewed complained about just that--no one was in charge. Again, that was Bush's cue to step up when it was obvious no one was in charge. And that was long before he did.

 

[bulletgirl2002]

Thank you!

I feel much better in one way knowing that at times like this, the president has the power to take over. I am very, very anguished that we have a president who did not exercise that power.

"The Washington Post reported Sunday that Bush administration officials sent a draft legal memorandum to Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco just before midnight Friday asking her to request a federal takeover of the evacuation of New Orleans, according to a source within the state's emergency operations center. Administration officials had been seeking direct unified control over local police and National Guard units that would otherwise be under the Governor's jurisdiction. According to a senior Bush official, the President has the power (by state request or unilaterally) to federalize National Guard troops and put down civil unrest under the Insurrection Act [text; 2001 Congressional testimony on potential legal and other problems with federalizing the Guard during state emergencies, PDF]. Suspecting a political motive, however, state officials refused to make the request, recognizing its implications for state authority over a state emergency and arguing it would be analogous to a federal declaration of martial law, a legal condition that both the US military [JURIST report] and state authorities [JURIST report] had previously been at public pains to avoid. The next day Blanco shored up her authority over the situation by setting up a state relief fund and calling in former Clinton administration FEMA director James Lee Witt [professional profile] to advise on the state relief effort. Federal officials all the way up to President have suggested that state and local governments were overwhelmed by the scope of the disaster and were slow to respond, but that they themselves could not have moved more quickly because, in the words of Homeland Secutity Secretary Michael Chertoff, "our constitutional system really places the primary authority in each state with the governor."

but you would also be pissed if he did and the democrats started raising hell about it. How do you feel about the democratic governor that refused to let the feds take over? Or does she get a pass???? Yeah he should have told the to go screw herself. He was considerate of her state office and when she refused didn't do this. Maybe he was wrong to not do this...In reality, it was a pissing match that he let her win....

 

[Cypros]

THANK YOU! I noticed that same thing about the jumping death. Me thinks he has some trouble with telling the truth. And then he makes that little helicopter flight and throws some bottles of water down. The camera cut off just before the water bottles hit....but I can just bet that as high up as they were those bottles busted open on that roof, otherwise they would have shown the gentleman on the roof scooping them up. It was all a PR ploy.

Did he say that he saw the guy jump or that he saw the guy that jumped (ie. the body after the fact). I am sure that he saw the body as it had to have remained there at least until Friday or Saturday.

 

[less0305]

Did he say that he saw the guy jump or that he saw the guy that jumped (ie. the body after the fact). I am sure that he saw the body as it had to have remained there at least until Friday or Saturday.

Well, I'd have to hear the tape again, but I swore he said, "I saw a man jump to his death because he just couldn't take it anymore."

 

[Ntegrity]

Some people blame Bush for their constipation. It's pointless to argue who did what to whom until all the facts are known.

 

[bulletgirl2002]

Some people blame Bush for their constipation. It's pointless to argue who did what to whom until all the facts are known.

You are so right!!!! Why I do this, I don't know...lol. Thanks for bringing me back to reality...

 

[less0305]

Some people blame Bush for their constipation.

No truer words have ever been spoken.

 

[kgeaux]

Some people blame Bush for their constipation. It's pointless to argue who did what to whom until all the facts are known.

Thanks for reminding me. Every once in a while I end up in LALA land, where reason prevails, and I forget that it's just a place in my head.