I have 3 words: JOHN BENNET RAMSEY

[TexMex]

Brought upstairs to Det. Arndt by FW still doesn't account for how her fibers would be on the tape, nor does it account for why they were found in the paint tray in the basement (remember she said she was never in the basement in that jacket nor was she near the paint try in it either) and it certainly does not account for why the fibers from her jacket would be tied into the knot.

And what about the fibers from John's shirt on JB's pubic area and in her underwear?

Hi NP

Like Thomas said...by the body being brought upstairs..ALL fiber evidence was compromised., day1.

None of it changes the fact that no Ramsey DNA was found on the victim

 

[LaMer]

Wake up folks. See this case for what it is. There was a cover up here. Why the cover up? Why the crazy ransom note? Why the insatiable need by John Ramsey to ask his pilot to get his plane ready to leave just 30 minutes after finding their daughter murdered?

Right on Point!

 

[Jolynna]

TexMex,


You are right, no Ramsey DNA was found on JonBenet or her clothes.

So why not do as so many have suggested:

"It's time to get some by-the-book, unbiased special people on this case who can't be swayed by money and power and get some justice for JonBenet!!!"

If nothing else, the recent JMK fiasco has made it evident to the whole world that the local authorities (because of bias, or inexperience...actually the reasons do not matter) do not have the ability to resolve this.

They have had the case ten years. Why not give someone from the outside a chance?

RDIs and IDIs alike should be pushing for a change.

 

[Nedthan Johns]

Thanks folks I forgot the fibers were also found on the sticky side of that tape that John left in the basement

 

[luvbeaches]

So I wonder when John Bennet Ramsey is moving out of the country?

He probably won't be moving until Boulder gets a DA that is willing to go up against Haddon & Co. You have to wonder what's going on behind the scenes with these people? What's the connection or what do they have on each other? Clearly, something is going on, IMO.

 

[Nedthan Johns]

at least one didn't match-the panty DNA could not have been his. Still, how does that justify dismissing the case against him?

Ned: Ahhhhh good point. Now you are beginning to see just how little they have to go on. Degraded DNA. Yet nothing else that could possibly link him. INteresting isn't it?

Just proves how inept the DA's office is in handling this case

 

[Seeker]

Hi engleigh

I just read in the Thomas book that the tape was laying sticky side up on the blanket once John removed it...those fibers could have come from anywhere in the home, including when Patsy threw herself on the body when it was brought upstairs..

TexMex, the fibers on the tape could not have gotten there when Patsy threw herself on JB's body. The tape was still down in the basement on the blanket. John only carried JB's body up, not the blanket or tape.

 

[Seeker]

Hi NP

The Thomas book said Fleet White brought it upstairs to Det. Arndt
John could have fibers of Patsy on him....Thomas says all fiber evidence was useless in this case from Day One

I've never read his book, but if that's true then the BPD staged the "crime scene photo's" they took that day down in the basement.

More shoddy police work apparently.

 

[RiverRat]

Hi NP

The Thomas book said Fleet White brought it upstairs to Det. Arndt
John could have fibers of Patsy on him....Thomas says all fiber evidence was useless in this case from Day One

Page Number??????

 

[Nedthan Johns]

in addition to Mary Lacy having to pay back Colorado tax payers.

Michael Tracy should be charged with trying to extract publicity for his book.

This guy is a TOTAL fraud!

 

[Seeker]

Thanks folks I forgot the fibers were also found on the sticky side of that tape that John left in the basement

Ummm, didn't I just remind you of that recently? :silenced:

 

[Nedthan Johns]

Yes you did Seeker. :clap:

I was thanking you

 

[kayebee]

Short of a confession from someone who actually had the opportunity to commit the crime, this case won't be solved. Without a confession, there has been too much doubt raised about every piece of evidence (and the Boulder authorities handling of it) to convince a jury beyond reasonable doubt that a given individual (<cough> John Ramsey <cough>) did it.

Sheesh--you still have some people on this board who think Karr could have done it after he's been released without charges! They don't seem to understand that the Boulder DA had absolutely NO EVIDENCE linking him to the crime, other than Michael Tracy's say-so and his own crack pot confession. Imagine if they were on a jury!

Karen

 

[Seeker]

Yes you did Seeker. :clap:

I was thanking you

Oh... :blushing: I didn't realize...sorry Ned and thank you.

 

[twinkiesmom]

Who's to say the blood droplet deposited on the underwear at the time of the crime didn't dissolve contaminated DNA already there on the surface from the panty manufacturer...

 

[TexMex]

Thanks folks I forgot the fibers were also found on the sticky side of that tape that John left in the basement

p 30(paperback) of Steve Thomas book:

Arndt ordered Ramsey to put the body down on the floor near the front door and told Fleet White to guard the basement door. Instead, White ran back down to the cellar room, picked up the black tape and stared at it. By doing so White unknowingly mishandled a key piece of evidence.



When JR discovered the body, White looked into the room and saw the black tape JR had removed laying on the blanket.

No way any fibers can be trusted as evidence in this case, with people all over the house and the body being moved.

 

[TexMex]

Page Number??????

My bad, RR.

He went back down and picked it up.

p 30 paperback

 

[RiverRat]

Thanks TM, I was going to say that was the first I had heard about the tape upstairs.

 

[TexMex]

TexMex, the fibers on the tape could not have gotten there when Patsy threw herself on JB's body. The tape was still down in the basement on the blanket. John only carried JB's body up, not the blanket or tape.

Thanks Seeker, I reread it. But with people like JR and FW who had been upstairs with Patsy then finding the body, removing the tape, then FW going back down and picking up the tape there's no way to say when the fibers got onto the tape...could have come from John or Fleet

 

[twinkiesmom]

You can't throw out all the fiber evidence...What about the fibers tied inside the knot? What about the fibers on her skin underneath clothing?