IA IA - Daughter Alleges Father (Donald Studey) is Serial Killer - Searches Yielded No Evidence - Thurman

[Eli9]

It is very difficult to abduct and kill so many people and I think that is the reason that many dismissed the story that Lucy has told. 70 people that's huge. I'm not saying it didn't happen but I do hope they have the money to investigate and find out one way or another.

 

[sgmet]

It is very difficult to abduct and kill so many people and I think that is the reason that many dismissed the story that Lucy has told. 70 people that's huge. I'm not saying it didn't happen but I do hope they have the money to investigate and find out one way or another.

I wonder if Lucy would stand by her story under a condition that she would be held financially liable for the excavation if her claims are proven to be without merit?

 

[AliceInPain]

It is very difficult to abduct and kill so many people and I think that is the reason that many dismissed the story that Lucy has told. 70 people that's huge. I'm not saying it didn't happen but I do hope they have the money to investigate and find out one way or another.

But according to the police report from last year she said five people?
I'm wondering what she initially said when talking about it in school.
LE also said they first heard about it when the dad accused Lucy of stealing money from him.
That's something I've seen in my own life from my mythomaniac ex to my narcissistic mother: question them about something they likely did, and they will point their fingers at YOU with some ridiculous counter-accusation.
I really don't know what to think, I don't believe her but also I do want to believe her...

 

[Eli9]

I wonder if Lucy would stand by her story under a condition that she would be held financially liable for the excavation if her claims are proven to be without merit?

Interesting angle to ponder.

 

[cocomod]

I wonder if Lucy would stand by her story under a condition that she would be held financially liable for the excavation if her claims are proven to be without merit?

You know, even IF it turns out to be false, she may be suffering from an extreme form of PTSD from an abusive father. He may have made her watch horrible movies that imprinted on her brain as a child. I believe her, but IF it turns out to be false, it doesn't mean she made the whole thing up for attention. IMVHO

 

[Ontario Mom]

You know, even IF it turns out to be false, she may be suffering from an extreme form of PTSD from an abusive father. He may have made her watch horrible movies that imprinted on her brain as a child. I believe her, but IF it turns out to be false, it doesn't mean she made the whole thing up for attention. IMVHO

I've thought of this exact same thing. Except for one of his adult kids, no one has had anything kind to say about this guy so, it's a given he was quite likely an awful person. He could have terrorized her into doing whatever he wanted by threatening to have her dropped into the well "just like all the others", and then somehow in her little girl brain she became convinced this was real.

It's truly astounding the terrifying thing some parents can do to their kids. We see evil examples of it on here every single day.

jmo

 

[?!?]

Where is the Poor Farm Cemetery, and how many are interred there?

How were deaths at the farm recorded and 'processed?'

Given that the Studey/Study family was in the funeral business, seems it would have been convenient for them to handle the business from the farm. Instead of what might normally be expected, the well might have been an all-too-tempting shortcut to dispose of bodies. Don might have just been doing the disposal, or might have created some business while visiting the farm - he could have had knowledge of exactly who the 'all-aloners' were.

IANAE - pure speculation - YMMV.

 

[MountainGal33]

"Studey said her father not only made sure his children knew what he was doing, but forced them to help with the burials.

She remembered him saying of one victim: "the b**** deserved it."

Most of the women had dark or darkish hair, she said. All were white and she guessed that most, except for a 15-year-old runaway, were in their 20s or 30s."

As he dumped the bodies into the well, they would pile dirt and lye on top, she said."

Many of the victims were buried in the 90-to-100-foot well, clothed and wearing jewelry, Studey said. She said her father kept gold teeth as trophies.


That is A LOT of specific details and sense memory kicks in from tramatic events you can recall that much detail / smell/ sight / sound.

She started talking about this in grade school. For me it sounds like she is telling the truth.

Maybe not 70 women- but she witnessed something awful...

(just my opinion)

Dad was serial killer, woman says, as cadaver dogs hunt field of nightmares

Lucy Studey says her father forced her and her siblings to help bury his murder victims for years. Now she believes cadaver dogs have found the burial sites.

www.newsweek.com

 

[squish]

I wonder if Lucy would stand by her story under a condition that she would be held financially liable for the excavation if her claims are proven to be without merit?

Definitely not. Why would she trust that she could bet $300,000 for them to find the bodies now, after being dismissed for her entire life?

 

[?!?]

Definitely not. Why would she trust that she could bet $300,000 for them to find the bodies now, after being dismissed for her entire life?

Also, no guarantee that they're all in the same well - how many wells are there in the area (including those that have been closed (filled in)?

 

[j_in_c]

I wonder if Lucy would stand by her story under a condition that she would be held financially liable for the excavation if her claims are proven to be without merit?

I worry this would set a terrible precedent. I am slightly skeptical of her story, but I do believe that she truly believes what she is saying and I am glad that it is being taken seriously enough to warrant further investigation. If it turns out she was maliciously reporting for whatever reason, our system has a provision for false reporting - there should be no need to bill her for investigating. I also suspect if she had the means, she would have hired a PI or might have been taken more seriously sooner.

I personally will hold off on looking for potential victim matches until remains are found.

 

[cocomod]

"Studey said her father not only made sure his children knew what he was doing, but forced them to help with the burials.

She remembered him saying of one victim: "the b**** deserved it."

Most of the women had dark or darkish hair, she said. All were white and she guessed that most, except for a 15-year-old runaway, were in their 20s or 30s."

As he dumped the bodies into the well, they would pile dirt and lye on top, she said."

Many of the victims were buried in the 90-to-100-foot well, clothed and wearing jewelry, Studey said. She said her father kept gold teeth as trophies.


That is A LOT of specific details and sense memory kicks in from tramatic events you can recall that much detail / smell/ sight / sound.

She started talking about this in grade school. For me it sounds like she is telling the truth.

Maybe not 70 women- but she witnessed something awful...

(just my opinion)

Dad was serial killer, woman says, as cadaver dogs hunt field of nightmares

Lucy Studey says her father forced her and her siblings to help bury his murder victims for years. Now she believes cadaver dogs have found the burial sites.

www.newsweek.com

Right?! I imagine the whole family witnessed multiple something awfuls! I sincerely think she is telling the truth. I am just sincerely glad that someone finally listened and at least is investigating! Can you imagine if there is even 5 bodies here?! Even one is worth investigating!

 

[MajorHoople]

Iowa cops now plan to excavate land of 'serial killer'

Iowa police are planning to dig up farmland after a woman claimed her father was a prolific serial killer who murdered up to 70 women - and ordered his kids to dump their bodies in a 100ft well.

www.dailymail.co.uk

"Officers at Fremont County now say that Lucy gave 'conflicting' statements when she last spoke to them in 2021"

"Authorities have confirmed that they are planning to excavate another portion of land in Thurman, Iowa, close to the property"

"Iowa police are planning to dig up farmland after a woman claimed her father was a prolific serial killer who murdered up to 70 women – and ordered his kids to dump their bodies in a 100ft well.

Fremont County Sheriff’s Office plan on excavating a portion of land in Thurman, Iowa, close to where Donald Dean Studey and his family lived.

His daughter Lucy Studey McKiddy, 53, made the bombshell claims last week, telling investigators that she and her three siblings were forced to move the corpse across the land.

Sheriff’s office officials are planning to meet with the FBI and Iowa’s Division of Criminal Investigations this week to discuss plans.

However McKiddy has been accused of giving ‘conflicting claims’ surrounding her father, with her elder sister Susan denying the allegations against their father."

 

[RedHaus]

I wonder if Lucy would stand by her story under a condition that she would be held financially liable for the excavation if her claims are proven to be without merit?

Can you imagine if there is even 5 bodies here?! Even one is worth investigating!

"Officers at Fremont County now say that Lucy gave 'conflicting' statements when she last spoke to them in 2021" (link)

all quotes rsbm

Even if the remains of one missing person are found on or near the Studey property, as @cocomod said, it would be worth every penny spent by local officials to find that first body. If there is one body, there may likely be more.

One GPR assessment that locates a possible human burial site, followed by the excavation of one body, followed by forensic identification of that body as a missing person, is all it should take for the world to finally believe LS.

I believe LS already. But as others have said, I'd like proof before I go much further than that.

The possibility that as a child, this woman not only witnessed unspeakably horrific things done by her father, but also endured a lifetime of her traumatic experiences being invalidated by adults and officials when she tried to tell her story, is simply unfathomable. It is time to stop ignoring this woman in case her memories are real, as splintered as they may be.

And if the remains of one missing person are identified on or near the Studey property, LS deserves a big apology.

If the remains of no missing persons are found on or near the Studey property, then LS deserves mental health support.

ETA: a word in 4th paragraph

 

[squishy1016]

Annie died 2006

Annie died 2006

Anna was never married to Donald Studey my mom lived with him for 11 years till her death but never married him.

 

[AliceInPain]

Says his name (Studey) on her grave though and also that she was Don's loving wife.

 

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[ChatteringBirds]

Why I am inclined to believe there are at least some victims waiting to be found - the alleged "suicides." I am skeptical those women took their own lives in the ways alleged. It sounds a lot like, "Two violent deaths? Oh they committed suicide, you say? Okay, nothing to see here."
On top of the hits by the dogs (which I do take with a grain of salt, but at least with a grain...) I think there are victims, but not 70.
My current opinion only though.

 

[MountainGal33]

Updated article 11/9/22

“Lucy Studey has said that over the decades the family lived in and out of Thurman, her father would frequent bars and an old racetrack in nearby Omaha. He would regularly lose bets and return to the family's trailer with transients, sex workers or – as he called them – "bar slushes" whom he would then kill and bury on their land or neighboring grounds, according to the allegations.”

“People living near the Green Hollow area in and around Thurman have long heard stories about people entering the remote hollows, but never coming out.”

“The haunting of the alleged killings, Lucy Studey said, got to her, and she told Newsweek that she recalls as a young girl walking into her father's room one night while he was sleeping. She had a gun.

"I should have shot him while he was sleeping," Lucy Studey said”


“The FBI field office in Omaha, which covers Fremont County, has offered assistance to locals and the DCI, according to the FBI's national office.”

Third cadaver dog flags remains at alleged Green Hollow Killer burial site

'I'm not surprised they hit there because my dad said the bodies were the reason the mushrooms grow so big.'

www.newsweek.com

 

[cocomod]

Updated article 11/9/22
“The FBI field office in Omaha, which covers Fremont County, has offered assistance to locals and the DCI, according to the FBI's national office.”

Third cadaver dog flags remains at alleged Green Hollow Killer burial site

'I'm not surprised they hit there because my dad said the bodies were the reason the mushrooms grow so big.'

www.newsweek.com

RSBM

Thanks for the new article. It is looking more and more like at least part of her story is true. From the article:

Third Cadaver Dog Flags Remains at Alleged Iowa Serial Killer's Burial Site​