IA IA - David Schultz, 53, Wall Lake, 21 November 2023 #2

[mst]

Exactly what bothers me, and I'll add that him accidentally making a wrong turn doesn't add up, either, because it doesn't account for the 22 minutes to drive 4 miles, and if he needed a good road to turn on to take a route back the right direction (vs making a u-turn), then he passed the best road (190th) and kept going north to where the truck ended up.

I don't think he made it to his destination because cell data and camera footage don't support that, according to LE. Doing the math, there would have only been about 5-7 minutes for something to happen to him at the delivery location.

I also got nothing. No scenario works.

One reason for the slow rate of speed or long time taken for that distance could have been that when he got to the intersection where he was supposed to turn right, it was blocked. He then decided to turn left. Could have gotten to intersection and a person was there, came up to passenger side and needed help. Dave could have driven them to the area where the truck was found. Stopping for something or someone could account for the time

 

[HD1]

And unfortunately his arrogant, narrow minded attitude will be a hinderance to solving the case and finding DS. Hopefully DCI has taken over.

tsk tsk this guy... unless you have searched "x" amount of land searching... well... maybe we should as a matter of fact..lol. There has to be a detail somewhere that we are missing and im sure he may have to do with why. Sad.

 

[HD1]

"He had to do another Seaboard load from Eagle Grove to Sac City," she said.

Sarah made the comment above....anyone ever wonder, what does it mean??

did a search for seaboard load and was not coming up with anything... there is something called google dorking that i have recently learned so this time i did allintitle:seaboard loading and came up with this, so maybe

Pick a Truckload which is a bit off... but also this

Load Controller C at Seaboard Triumph Foods

Locations - Seaboard Foods

Just another WordPress site

www.seaboardfoods.com

so i think seaboard load maybe that could of been another company? does it say at all the name of the company for the pigs?

 

[OldAce]

did a search for seaboard load and was not coming up with anything... there is something called google dorking that i have recently learned so this time i did allintitle:seaboard loading and came up with this, so maybe

Pick a Truckload which is a bit off... but also this

Load Controller C at Seaboard Triumph Foods

Locations - Seaboard Foods

Just another WordPress site

www.seaboardfoods.com

so i think seaboard load maybe that could of been another company? does it say at all the name of the company for the pigs?

Seaboard is apparently a load board/freight broker. Owner operators or companies can sign in/on and contract for a listed load, upon agreement to terms such as rate, what it is, where it loads, where it is going. Would imagine it would list as something like (LS) livestock and trailer type (POT) livestock trailer, name for a large livestock trailer. So far as I know, no overall pic of his in use or usual trailer shown, just the nose area "Brown". Top is regular typical, lower is a POT.

 

[WichitaFalls]

Is it just me, or is the silence today deafening?

 

[MorningDove]

A few questions-
Was it confirmed that his coveralls and muck boots were missing?
One muck boot found in ditch?
Was he wearing his coveralls when he stopped at the closed truck stop that he stopped at for 16 minutes?
Where was the camera location that they said did not capture him arriving at Weichman's?
Is there a possible different route to Weichman's with no cameras?

It seems to me that he may well have arrived at unloading point. While putting on his coveralls and boots an attack/altercation/accident happened very quickly? Possibly because he witnessed something the night before or as he was arriving? Perps (at least 2) would have to get the semi out of there as well as any evidence of him being there and fast! Gather items quick, load in vehicle, one hops in semi and head out to where it was eventually found, the other follows and parks in approach where the jacket, cellphone charger and knife were found to pick his partner in crime up. This hypothetical scenerio is the only way I can work it in my head. MOO

 

[JerseyWasHome2]

A few questions-
Was it confirmed that his coveralls and muck boots were missing?
One muck boot found in ditch?
Was he wearing his coveralls when he stopped at the closed truck stop that he stopped at for 16 minutes?
Where was the camera location that they said did not capture him arriving at Weichman's?
Is there a possible different route to Weichman's with no cameras?

It seems to me that he may well have arrived at unloading point. While putting on his coveralls and boots an attack/altercation/accident happened very quickly? Possibly because he witnessed something the night before? Perps (at least 2) would have to get the semi out of there as well as any evidence of him being there and fast! Gather items quick, load in vehicle, one hops in semi and head out to where it was eventually found, the other follows and parks in approach where the jacket, cellphone charger and knife were found to pick his partner in crime up. This hypothetical scenerio is the only way I can work it in my head. MOO

No confirmation about coveralls or boots being found anywhere has been released to the public that I’m aware, nor any data on what he was wearing in the truck stop video.

There are a few businesses with cameras, right next to Wiechmans to the east, and two across the street just to the east, that would have captured his truck. No official report on which one they viewed that did not pick him up, but some have speculated it was the business right next to W.

To get to W via an alternate route he would have had to have gone way out of his way in a big loop from the west through Sac City (with more potential cameras). His phone data was reported as showing that didn’t happen. The times of the pings, etc., showed the phone moving west on 20, never heading south on 71, spending that extra 12 min or so around the intersection of 20 and 71, then its final destination where the truck was found. The phone data showed there was no time for him to have gone to W and back to anywhere like where his truck was located.

 

[haggis]

Could his phone have been taken from him and driven a separate route, then put back in his cab after whatever happened happened?

 

[JerseyWasHome2]

Could his phone have been taken from him and driven a separate route, then put back in his cab after whatever happened happened?

I don’t think so, based on what the press release from the sheriff said. The time he left the M126 truck stop corroborated with phone pings heading west on 20, the arrival at the intersection, and then a delay of 12 min or so and then phone is at the final location. They would have detected the phone was elsewhere and the times would be off. And if someone grabbed it and shut it off at M126 and turned it back on at the final location, that would have been noticed as well, I’d think.

 

[MorningDove]

No confirmation about coveralls or boots being found anywhere has been released to the public that I’m aware, nor any data on what he was wearing in the truck stop video.

There are a few businesses with cameras, right next to Wiechmans to the east, and two across the street just to the east, that would have captured his truck. No official report on which one did, but some have speculated it was the business right next to W.

To get to W via an alternate route he would have had to have gone way out of his way in a big loop from the west through Sac City (with more potential cameras). His phone data was reported as showing that didn’t happen. The times of the pings, etc., showed the phone moving west on 20, never heading south on 71, spending that extra 12 min or so around the intersection of 20 and 71, then its final destination where the truck was found. The phone data showed there was no time for him to have gone to W and back to anywhere like where his truck was located.

Thank you! Just trying to clarify the loop you speak of...
Looking at 240th street just south of exit on 71 (appears to be gravel). But, turn west on 240th street 1 mile, to Taylor Ave/Ash Ave, turn south 1 mile, turn east to Weichman's. Is this the "loop" you speak of?

 

[Seattle1]

Could his phone have been taken from him and driven a separate route, then put back in his cab after whatever happened happened?

All good questions. Problem is that the Sheriff is releasing very little info and the reason for this is unknown. There's no confirmation if LE treating this as a criminal investigation, a missing person, or voluntarily missing. Hoping this doesn't become a cold case file stored away. DS has two 10 year old sons and a wife who deserve answers -- good or bad.

Last update from LE on 12/9/23.

https://www.facebook.com/saccountysheriff/posts/679027634344660

 

[JerseyWasHome2]

Thank you! Just trying to clarify the loop you speak of...
Looking at 240th street just south of exit on 71 (appears to be gravel). But, turn west on 240th street 1 mile, to Taylor Ave/Ash Ave, turn south 1 mile, turn east to Weichman's. Is this the "loop" you speak of?

I guess that's one possibility of heading to Wiechmans in a roundabout bizarre way. I was thinking a wider radius, but your way would work, too. He'd then pass the businesses at 255th and Ash, who may have cameras, but why would he have taken a roundabout route at all, instead of a direct one? And the phone data doesn't show a roundabout route. If he had reached Wiechmans and something happened there, his phone data would have shown him driving south on 71 and west on 255th as the most direct route, and as someone said there would be even more cell towers closer to Sac City, and then wouldn't the pigs have been unloaded? I don't think there's any leeway of the time stamps on the phone data to show any roundabout route.

This is from the Dec 9 press release by SCSO:

Investigators obtained video footage of David Schultz at 11:15 PM on November 21, 2023, at the MM126 truck stop east of Fort Dodge on Hwy 20. Schultz is there for 16 minutes before leaving the truck stop. He is then seen on a DOT camera on Hwy 20 west of MM 126 truck stop heading west. This was the last time David Schultz was seen. Cell phone data obtained from David Schult’s phone corroborates this timeline.

Cell phone data also shows investigators that Schultz travels across Hwy to the intersection of Hwy 20 & Hwy 71 junction. There was not any usable video from the DOT camera at Hwy 4 and Hwy 20, and there is no video of Schultz stopping at the truck stop at Hwy 4. Cell phone shows Schultz’s phone arrives at Hwy 20 & 71 at about 12:18 AM. The data shows the phone traveling north to where the truck was found. Data suggests the truck may have been there since 12:40 AM on November 21, 2023.

Video surveillance from an area business was obtained near Wieckman Hog Buying station. This video shows that David Schultz never made it to Wieckman’s. Law enforcement has searched for additional video footage from Eagle Grove to Fort Dodge but has not located any.

 

[Damarna]

This may have been mentioned....16 minutes isn't a lot of time to fill up a semi. Allowing time for a walk around and scrolling on his phone. (My husband's thoughts - trucker for 30+ years). He thought maybe he stopped to pre inspect for drop off?

 

[jshhanson]

What if DS was trying to escape his current life, bought a vehicle, parked on the dirt road near where he parked the truck before starting his load that day. Dropped the personal items to make LE think something suspiciousn happened, jumped in the vehicle he had left and took off. This would explain why he was running late, taking a different route, leaving the truck in the middle of the road, and why the dogs only trailed him to the dirt road. Other possible scenarios leave a lot of open questions including lack of any additional evidence from other persons.

 

[OldAce]

Absence of an obvious or suspected motive is really hampering attaching any scenario to a logical conclusions so far.
There is absent any party; appearing in any sequence, to help further that theory.
Somewhere in the route, someone saw something that will
direct/redirect the line of investigation to a conclusion.

Until LE reveals facts they are withholding or an observer of something comes forward, it is stalled.

 

[Alwaysplatinum]

She apparently came from behind the stopped truck. She would not have seen that it was DS truck from that angle, only when going beside or looking back - where there would have been little light to see.
Trucks stopped on the road/roadsides are more common in farming country like this, though the lights/flashers are usually on.

Fwiw…. From one of Sarah’s interviews, she referred to the friend is a “he”.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Websleuthers, have any of you followed cases where the red flags are there, but in the end it wasn't the person you thought?

Yes. I recall an interview with a victim's boyfriend that was suspicious to me at the time, but I was completely wrong. There was just so much he couldn't yet say during the interview, and he had to be careful, but after the truth came out, the interview made sense and wasn't actually suspicious. It happens -- we need to really keep an open mind.

What if DS was trying to escape his current life, bought a vehicle, parked on the dirt road

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As expensive as even used vehicles are, could he have managed to buy one without his wife noticing the missing money or authorities figuring it out, though? How would he later get the vehicle registered and insured?

And why start a new life in the middle of a work shift? Wouldn't most people spend one final Christmas with their kids before staging a disappearance?

It's possible he just left, but he would have to be using a new identity already. All JMO.

 

[mst]

Yes. I recall an interview with a victim's boyfriend that was suspicious to me at the time, but I was completely wrong. There was just so much he couldn't yet say during the interview, and he had to be careful, but after the truth came out, the interview made sense and wasn't actually suspicious. It happens -- we need to really keep an open mind.



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As expensive as even used vehicles are, could he have managed to buy one without his wife noticing the missing money or authorities figuring it out, though? How would he later get the vehicle registered and insured?

And why start a new life in the middle of a work shift? Wouldn't most people spend one final Christmas with their kids before staging a disappearance?

It's possible he just left, but he would have to be using a new identity already. All JMO.

She said he started out week with 2-3k cash. Possible he was not bringing home receipts for all of it.

 

[Seattle1]

What if DS was trying to escape his current life, bought a vehicle, parked on the dirt road near where he parked the truck before starting his load that day. Dropped the personal items to make LE think something suspiciousn happened, jumped in the vehicle he had left and took off. This would explain why he was running late, taking a different route, leaving the truck in the middle of the road, and why the dogs only trailed him to the dirt road. Other possible scenarios leave a lot of open questions including lack of any additional evidence from other persons.

While life history proves it's very much possible to meet the wrong partner, I don't believe you ever get the wrong children, and I think men who willing leaving their children is the minority. In the case of DS, this is a man who dearly wanted a family, and found a partner willing to go through invitro to make it happen. So no, I don't think DS is a man who desired to escape being a father, and abandoned his current life. Just the opposite, I think he was making double runs in a day because he wanted to provide for them -- all a month before Christmas. Also, the couple celebrated their 11th wedding anniversary days before DS vanished-- where he gave his wife a large wall hanging (horseshoe/heart) as an anniversary gift. I don't get the vibe that DS missing is voluntarily. JMO

 

[HD1]

Theres a lot of pages to go through to try to find this and the detective doesnt seem like on to release it but i figured id ask anyway, did they ever release the recording towhere we can watch the whole thing??