Found Deceased IA - David Schultz, 53, Wall Lake, 21 November 2023 #3

[Trobeld1]

He rented the livestock trailers from his boss, Les Brown, who deducted that fee from his paychecks, as per Sarah in one of her many interviews.

And it’s my understanding that Les obtained the jobs for him… David didn’t do his own bidding.

I don’t know if we’ve heard whether the $2000/month payment was on the new yellow truck or the red one. Maybe the yellow one or else she would have mentioned two payments.

Something that I am not sure about, is the truck payment worry, especially with DCI involved right away. Someone I knew had her daughter go missing. Because there was police report and investigation, the bank stopped any requirement for payments for her car (she had gotten a loan for it from a bank) and could not do collections for because of an active investigation. Maybe this would not apply here, just not sure why would be different?

 

[FromGermany1]

However, Brown said he’s convinced that Dave arrived at the pig-buying station and that “something happened” to him when he got out of his truck to unload the pigs. He claims that someone else drove Dave’s custom-painted Peterbilt out of the station but that Dave wasn’t behind the wheel. He understands there’s no video evidence to back up his claim.

“There’s one thing about Dave is that if he had pigs on that had to go somewhere, they got there,” Brown said. “If he had truck trouble, he made it work to get the pigs where they needed to be. All of our company drivers, everybody in the industry who hauls livestock that knows Dave are pretty confident that he made it down to the place he was supposed to go and that things, whatever happened to Dave, went on there.”

Brown said Dave was familiar with the buying station in Sac City and had hauled the same load for him the night before.
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Wife of Iowa trucker seeks answers a month after his disappearance

It’s been a month since Sarah Schultz last saw her truck driver husband, David. “Any scenario you could run through your head is probably a possibility,” the Sac County sheriff said.

www.freightwaves.com

Certainly already posted, but once more does not harm, IMO.

 

[FromGermany1]

Dave leases a livestock trailer from Les Brown, owner of B Bar R Livestock out of Denison, Iowa, who also finds him loads. Brown told FreightWaves that Dave had already delivered a load to the Wiechman Pig Co.’s buying station in Sac City and was planning to repeat the same route as before.
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Wife of Iowa trucker seeks answers a month after his disappearance

It’s been a month since Sarah Schultz last saw her truck driver husband, David. “Any scenario you could run through your head is probably a possibility,” the Sac County sheriff said.

www.freightwaves.com

 

[tarabull]

Snipped from the link above...
...Kevin Sievers, assistant manager of Wiechman Pig Co., works out of the Sioux City, Iowa, facility but also oversees the Sac City site where Dave was scheduled to unload.

“We had a guy come in the next morning to work up the hogs, and he noticed that there weren’t as many hogs as there were supposed to be in the pens,” Sievers told FreightWaves. “We contacted where the hogs came from and if something had gotten changed with their scheduling or something. They reached out to the trucking firm and the site where the hogs were loaded and said the hogs had been loaded but not delivered.”

QUESTION: If the DELIVERY SITE didn't know the pigs were missing until the next morning, how would the PICK UP LOCATION know the pigs weren't delivered???

Help me unnerstan?

 

[tarabull]

possible relevant post from thead #2, fwiw

IA - IA - David Schultz, 53, Wall Lake, 21 November 2023 #2

Mark Reiger was located deceased in his car Dec 1. Single gunshot wound to the head, foul play is not suspected. Thanks for sharing this I did not realize. DS just seems to disappear into the void. It’s mind boggling.

www.websleuths.com

 

[LostOldUserName]

Well... using terminology correctly or as defined helps people communicate when all we have is the written word here on this forum so... dunno what to say to this.

However, no, I'm not sure he worked for himself at all, that was my point. We would need clarification / verification. It is my understanding (that could be completely mistaken) he was renting a rig on a weekly / monthly basis from someone (his mechanic?) and this costs thousands of dollars. So he had purchased his own truck which SS said is technically owned by the bank as he was making repayments and it was being refurbished by the mechanic. With the end goal being that DS would not need to rent a truck.

Secondly, who was booking his jobs in? SS said that she was notified of DS being missing when his 'boss' came calling because DS had failed to unload at Weichman's. So it seems that he had some form of boss? Was this person booking in DS's work - loads and unload slots - and also receiving payment and then passing it on to DS - in the form of wages? Or was DS strictly self employed and billing for his work and paying a percentage to the booker and also renting a truck?

In trucking it does not matter if you are leasing/renting your equipment or if you owe on it. What determines if you are an owner operator is whose name and MC/Dot numbers that you are working under. David had his own authority granted to him from the US gov. that allowed him to operate. He can take loads directly from customers, ie livestock yard pays him directly, or he can take loads through what is called a broker. A broker also is granted an authority through the gov. and works as an intermediary between customers and trucking companies to move freight of all kinds. In the case of a broker load the broker would pay him. In either case, he is still an owner operator because his name and number is being used to physically haul the freight. ****ETA Owner operator mean you own and operate your own company.

 

[Joe Friday]

Snipped from the link above...
...Kevin Sievers, assistant manager of Wiechman Pig Co., works out of the Sioux City, Iowa, facility but also oversees the Sac City site where Dave was scheduled to unload.

“We had a guy come in the next morning to work up the hogs, and he noticed that there weren’t as many hogs as there were supposed to be in the pens,” Sievers told FreightWaves. “We contacted where the hogs came from and if something had gotten changed with their scheduling or something. They reached out to the trucking firm and the site where the hogs were loaded and said the hogs had been loaded but not delivered.”

QUESTION: If the DELIVERY SITE didn't know the pigs were missing until the next morning, how would the PICK UP LOCATION know the pigs weren't delivered???

Help me unnerstan?

Tricky reading. This is a quote from the assistant manger of Wiechman's who doesn't work in Sac City. He is telling the reporter what he was told by his employee working in Sac City.

I think what the manger is trying to say is: They (Wiechmans employee in Sac City) reached out to the trucking firm (Les Brown) and the site where the hogs were loaded (Eagle Grove) and said (employee in Sac City told manager) the hogs had been loaded but not delivered.

It does not say the loading site knew the hogs had not been delivered.

JMO

 

[JerseyWasHome2]

Something that I am not sure about, is the truck payment worry, especially with DCI involved right away. Someone I knew had her daughter go missing. Because there was police report and investigation, the bank stopped any requirement for payments for her car (she had gotten a loan for it from a bank) and could not do collections for because of an active investigation. Maybe this would not apply here, just not sure why would be different?

I think Sarah mentioned in an early interview or on her FB page that their/his bank gave her a month reprieve.

 

[mst]

Tricky reading. This is a quote from the assistant manger of Wiechman's who doesn't work in Sac City. He is telling the reporter what he was told by his employee working in Sac City.

I think what the manger is trying to say is: They (Wiechmans employee in Sac City) reached out to the trucking firm (Les Brown) and the site where the hogs were loaded (Eagle Grove) and said (employee in Sac City told manager) the hogs had been loaded but not delivered.

It does not say the loading site knew the hogs had not been delivered.

JMO

my understanding is when the staff came in to work in the morning, the pig count was off and there was no paperwork. They called the broker (Les Brown) and the pick up spot to see if something got changed or rescheduled. I train and sell horses. When we have a horse getting transported, the shipping company picks up the horse and the paperwork. Once the horse is on the truck, my communication is with the transport company. If the horse has not arrived in the time frame expected, I would call the transport company and not the pick up location

 

[OldAce]

Strange to me, but I guess that is comonm in your dealings. I prefer the more in line trace. I would call the loader and determine it was actually loaded, who on, and what time they left. Then the trucker/broker as to where the truck is now. Then you can calculate arrival.

 

[ldabiels01]

His wife kept posting on fb that she wished the FBI would become involved. But then she was told that there is nothing more that the FBI can do other than what law enforcement is already doing. I cannot imagine her pain, but it's true. I don't know what more she expects the FBI to do, unless local law enforcement was in on his disappearance, which I doubt. I think that the only way this man is still alive is if he disappeared on his own accord, which is very unlikely. If he is dead, his body may never be found. There are people who have been missing and presumed dead for decades and they have never been found, not by the FBI or anyone else

 

[Centaurus]

His wife kept posting on fb that she wished the FBI would become involved. But then she was told that there is nothing more that the FBI can do other than what law enforcement is already doing. I cannot imagine her pain, but it's true. I don't know what more she expects the FBI to do, unless local law enforcement was in on his disappearance, which I doubt. I think that the only way this man is still alive is if he disappeared on his own accord, which is very unlikely. If he is dead, his body may never be found. There are people who have been missing and presumed dead for decades and they have never been found, not by the FBI or anyone else

I’m sure the FBI has more experience, resources, tools, and personnel. I’d want their help if I were her.

 

[ldabiels01]

I’m sure the FBI has more experience, resources, tools, and personnel. I’d want their help if I were her.

@Centaurus read her fb post from January 9th. She posted that she was told by an Iowa DCI (Division of Criminal Investigation) agent that the FBI doesn't really have any more to offer than what the DCI is already doing.

 

[geevee]

I'm still very curious about what DCI told her that was "classified" and she couldn't divulge, that was some time ago, and nothing more (about LE investigation) has been said.

 

[stormymama]

I'm still very curious about what DCI told her that was "classified" and she couldn't divulge, that was some time ago, and nothing more (about LE investigation) has been said.

I haven’t stopped thinking about it either. I’m surprised there hasn’t been more discusssion about it.

 

[geevee]

I haven’t stopped thinking about it either. I’m surprised there hasn’t been more discusssion about it.

Same here.

 

[JerseyWasHome2]

I'm still very curious about what DCI told her that was "classified" and she couldn't divulge, that was some time ago, and nothing more (about LE investigation) has been said.

I was wondering if perhaps they had nothing of much interest to share but even telling her something like “our forensic search on his phone yielded nothing of use” still may be something they don’t want her divulging. That is, isn’t it possible that any communication between them would be considered something to keep under wraps?

 

[SharonNeedles]

I'm still very curious about what DCI told her that was "classified" and she couldn't divulge, that was some time ago, and nothing more (about LE investigation) has been said.

Do you really believe DCI told her something confidential? I don't.

 

[Mauig’ma]

Do you really believe DCI told her something confidential? I don't.

If they did I feel she would have inadvertently let it be known imo

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

Do you really believe DCI told her something confidential? I don't.

I don’t as it could jeopardise a trial or inquiry