Found Deceased IA - David Schultz, 53, Wall Lake, 21 November 2023 #3

[Trobeld1]

I really really hope so.

I thought it was a bit insensitive and clumsy to offer $2,000 reward. As if, well hey we've got his wallet here with $2k in it, so that'll do...

Maybe it's me but it seems almost hateful to the family. Also it's such a low amount, it's derisory almost. In fact it almost reads like 'hey David, if you want to come back and turn yourself in, we've got your wallet with your $2,000 dollars here'.

JMO MOO pure speculation and conjecture on my part

I had read some about Crimestoppers and how they work. Not positive about IA but seems most have a base amount and depends on type of need for amount. ie Tips for a missing 5 year old may start off high ( say $10K) or definite foul play of a missing person ( crime scene with blood evidence). Tips are needed fast and urgently. I also read they can grow with independant donations towards the reward for an individual. Quite often the family and friends are part of making the increase happen.

If the reward is never used but the case gets closed, the donators can request for a refund and it will happen. Just some of what I read. I think Davids is pure coincidence for the amount. JMO

 

[mst]

Me too! This is what makes the least sense out of nearly everything. 20 minutes to get 3 miles? That's a lot of starting and stopping, or putzing along at 1 mph.
I will also posit that him stopping for 16 minutes (or whatever it was) at the closed gas station doesn't make logical sense either. He hadn't driven anywhere near long enough to even be thinking about needing a break or a leg stretch. Why is he stopping, walking around outside the truck, looking at his phone?
Maybe whatever happened started happening at that closed gas station and then worsened/continued from there?

i really think he set a time at a meeting spot and whomever he was meeting was running late, so he stopped off the exit for a few

 

[OldAce]

OldAce, would you have to clean the trailer after dropping hogs off? Seems like a huge job in itself. I know you hosed the boots and coveralls, but would you have to “disinfect” the he trailer after?

No, we had a crew at the home shop/terminal to put in the decks or wash and remove then service the trailers, re bed with fresh shavings. In all my years, I never hooked to a trailer loaded with livestock. Only once went out about 80 miles and hooked a load of cottonseed going on to Arizona. Driver that loaded it had broke down in Greenwood, MS.
You took out an empty, hauled the load and any back haul. I would on occasion have a trailer scooped out and washed out in Florida to bring back into Mississippi crated fruit.
These were the lanes I run from Waukesha, WI, to Miami. FL . I would load in WI, run to Huntsville, AL, unload in an auction barn, Let them rest and water. I would sleep, then load them back up and on to Miami. These were the big Holstein dairy cows for McArthur Dairies in Miami. Actually, that pic was taken on my way back from FL to Waukesha.
Over the years, there would occasionally be an outbreak of some disease and we would have to get a vet to disinfect
the trailer and provide a certificate of his treating it. Back then most cattle were healthy and facilities were roomy and clean. The hog producers are a completely different operation as so many confined and shuttled from barn to barn.
Any disease can run rampant thru the facility before it is fully realized.
Hogs picked up in E. St Louis were delivered to a meat packer in West Point, MS. Normal clean/wash out.

There is a big difference between the livestock handling back then and today. Mass breeding, feeding, packing,
delivery is an assembly line. Similar in poultry and catfish. The food supply chain is very important to each of us.

 

[SharonNeedles]

i really think he set a time at a meeting spot and whomever he was meeting was running late, so he stopped off the exit for a few

That's really the only thing that makes sense.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

i really think he set a time at a meeting spot and whomever he was meeting was running late, so he stopped off the exit for a few

I think if for some reason he was due to meet someone, or he was deliberately holding off delivering for a little while, he would have stopped whilst still on route, before turning on to the slip road (away from Weichman's) and not taken a road that meant he couldn't loop back on himself.

IMO if he did meet someone by prior arrangement, it was just before getting to W's and from that point onward they took control of his truck. Who and why and what the heck they've done with him?

JMO MOO

 

[Allynator]

Does anyone keep up with SS on SM? Her posts are pretty heartbreaking. IMO she uses making posts as a grieving mechanism. I did similar when my SIL was killed by LE in a traffic accident.

 

[Joe Friday]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1749861264799445074

 

[Limecat]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1749861264799445074

I used to live almost at that interchange! Have to read/watch. Can’t seem to access through X Thank you for this.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

I used to live almost at that interchange! Have to read/watch. Can’t seem to access through X Thank you for this.

How far is this from where DS was last seen / the truck was found?

 

[Limecat]

Well without doing maps that I suck at, that interchange should be about 1 1/2 to maybe 2 hours from the northern Iowa border. I’m not sure then how far it would be from there to where DS’ truck was found. Several hours, maybe? All speculation.

 

[Limecat]

I’m so sorry. I missed that it is South Cedar. I lived on North Cedar. Where this is looks to be more in Minneapolis proper or close suburb.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

Well without doing maps that I suck at, that interchange should be about 1 1/2 to maybe 2 hours from the northern Iowa border. I’m not sure then how far it would be from there to where DS’ truck was found. Several hours, maybe? All speculation.

Oh, I see. Well I guess it could be anyone in those circs. Sadly.

 

[Joe Friday]

There is a missing college student from Eagan MN by the name of Bryce Borca. I think it will turn out to be him. Of course it will take some time to determine who it is, if a body is found..

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[Auntie Cipation]

There is a missing college student from Eagan MN by the name of Bryce Borca. I think it will turn out to be him. Of course it will take some time to determine who it is, if a body is found..

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I was also thinking of young James Yoblonski missing from Wisconsin.

 

[Joe Friday]

Not sure if this may be the same or different. This was from Sunday.

Body found frozen in channel between Minneapolis lakes

Authorities do not know how long the person had been there.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Joe Friday]

The missing college student case is from Oct 2022 so I doubt he would be frozen in a channel between lakes two years later. So the body found Sunday must be from more recently.

 

[OldCop]

i really think he set a time at a meeting spot and whomever he was meeting was running late, so he stopped off the exit for a few

If, (big if), he was supposed to intentionally meet someone near where the truck was found, I think the Marker 126 stop was to touch base with this person and check on their eta at the meeting location.
David would have had to come to a complete stop at the end of the exit ramp at 71\20. Perhaps he checked in again and the person said they were running late. Perhaps David said he would wait for him there and to let him know when they were getting close. It makes more sense for a trucker to be stopped on an off ramp, I see it all the time, than to sit idling on a dark country road which may draw a neighbor’s or passers’ by attention. Once the meetup person was getting close, David slowly made his way up to the location where his truck was found. Arrival of both at about the same time would limit eyewitnesses as to what was happening.
If we read the Sac County Sheriff’s timeline closely, it doesn’t say that it took that length of time to drive from the intersection to the drop off -
“Cell phone shows Schultz’s phone arrives at Hwy 20 & 71 at about 12:18 AM. The data shows the phone traveling north to where the truck was found. Data suggests the truck may have been there since 12:40 AM on November 21, 2023.”
This doesn’t tell us whether or not the truck was at the intersection for 10+ minutes before traveling north. It doesn’t tell us if he stopped again in between.

Law enforcement gives update on David Schultz disappearance

The Sac County Sheriff’s office have provided an update on Saturday regarding the disappearance of 53-year-old David Schultz of Wall Lake. The full report is below.

carrollspaper.com

We are regularly discussing who may have taken him and why. Maybe this was a voluntary disappearance involving a female as opposed to foul play. David was always running. He was tired. He said he was done. What if a possible love interest was wealthy? David wouldn’t need his wallet or money if he became a kept man. Just another far out hypothesis to gnaw on for a bit……

 

[JerseyWasHome2]

If, (big if), he was supposed to intentionally meet someone near where the truck was found, I think the Marker 126 stop was to touch base with this person and check on their eta at the meeting location.
David would have had to come to a complete stop at the end of the exit ramp at 71\20. Perhaps he checked in again and the person said they were running late. Perhaps David said he would wait for him there and to let him know when they were getting close. It makes more sense for a trucker to be stopped on an off ramp, I see it all the time, than to sit idling on a dark country road which may draw a neighbor’s or passers’ by attention. Once the meetup person was getting close, David slowly made his way up to the location where his truck was found. Arrival of both at about the same time would limit eyewitnesses as to what was happening.
If we read the Sac County Sheriff’s timeline closely, it doesn’t say that it took that length of time to drive from the intersection to the drop off -
“Cell phone shows Schultz’s phone arrives at Hwy 20 & 71 at about 12:18 AM. The data shows the phone traveling north to where the truck was found. Data suggests the truck may have been there since 12:40 AM on November 21, 2023.”
This doesn’t tell us whether or not the truck was at the intersection for 10+ minutes before traveling north. It doesn’t tell us if he stopped again in between.

Law enforcement gives update on David Schultz disappearance

The Sac County Sheriff’s office have provided an update on Saturday regarding the disappearance of 53-year-old David Schultz of Wall Lake. The full report is below.

carrollspaper.com

We are regularly discussing who may have taken him and why. Maybe this was a voluntary disappearance involving a female as opposed to foul play. David was always running. He was tired. He said he was done. What if a possible love interest was wealthy? David wouldn’t need his wallet or money if he became a kept man. Just another far out hypothesis to gnaw on for a bit……

Thank you for pointing that out. I was thinking about that the other day and meant to go back to that press release. It is a bit vague, and perhaps they know more based on the cell phone data. I'm not sure where the notion that the phone moved super slowly came from. It's possible he made a right at 20/71 and met someone a few hundred feet north, and then the truck and phone were driven at a normal speed to their final resting point. Would be interesting to see how other similar phones ping in that area. Perhaps towers are fewer the more distance you get away from Sac City, so they may or may not have more accurate info on its movement between those 2 locations.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

Always running? You mean to work or always running away?

LOL I don't think any rich ladies (or men) are looking for a bit of rough sufficient that they encourage them to leave their wife and kids, home, truck, piggies, abandon their career, and their identity, and cause a slew of criminal offences... JMO. More like hey you drop off your piggies and bring your passport and drivers licence and money, return your truck, and I'll pick you up after, we'll tell your wife you've left tomo.

JMO of course.

 

[Joe Friday]

If David did run away from it all with a wealthy women, which I really doubt, it would have been much easier to have his Sugar Mama pick him up where he parks his truck, instead of the elaborate meet up leaving his truck sitting in the middle of the road. Unless he wanted everyone to think something bad had happened to him.

Just can't picture what a wealthy women would want with David. Wealthy people tend to socialize more. How is she planning on hiding David from her friends, children, ex(s), business associates, ect?