IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #1

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I'm surprised at how quickly the grandmother was concerned about the girls. They were last with her at about 12:15 and had gone on a bike ride. It was only 2 PM when she was worried. I'm embarrassed to admit that I would probably have waited a lot longer if a child was unaccounted for after less than two hours on a summer afternoon. I wonder if she tried phoning them and couldn't get through and that's what caused her to become really concerned. It just seems to me that by notifying police at 3 PM, she knew right away that something was wrong. I find that a bit surprising ... so is it possible that the girls had cooked something up for the afternoon and the grandmother picked up on it, but assumed it was something innocent and didn't pursue it until 2 PM when alarm bells went off?

I'm curious ... do parents normally contact police if their children are unaccounted for after less than 2 hours when they're biking on a summer afternoon?
 
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Looking at google maps it seems the clothing store is near a neighborhood. I am wondering if this is the area they were supposed to be riding their bikes in. My kids could always ride just so far from the house and no farther. Their bikes were found 2 miles from home and that seems a long way for 2 girls to ride through town without being seen by anyone. Two miles just sounds like a long bike ride for 2 young girls.
 
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There is an Andrew Collins who lives on Brovan Blvd directly behind Lederman's. If that is Elizabeth's home, perhaps the grandmother was watching the girls at the Collins' home. That would explain the last sighting of the girls as being 1)behind Lederman's riding bicycles and/or 2)the grandmother being the last person to see them.

Google map of Lederman's, Collins home, and Meyers Lake.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&g...=UwsCUMuAPYr28wSgg8iGCA&sqi=2&ved=0CAUQ8gEwAA

Oh, well. That link didn't work right. It only shows Lederman's. Sorry. I know how to make a screen shot but I'm not sure how to post one after I make it.
 
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There is an Andrew Collins who lives on Brovan Blvd directly behind Lederman's. If that is Elizabeth's home, perhaps the grandmother was watching the girls at the Collins' home. That would explain the last sighting of the girls as being 1)behind Lederman's riding bicycles and/or 2)the grandmother being the last person to see them.

Google map of Lederman's, Collins home, and Meyers Lake.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&g...=UwsCUMuAPYr28wSgg8iGCA&sqi=2&ved=0CAUQ8gEwAA

Oh, well. That link didn't work right. It only shows Lederman's. Sorry. I know how to make a screen shot but I'm not sure how to post one after I make it.

Thanks. I was thinking that may be the neighborhood where grandmother was watching them. Also does fit with the timing.
 
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Red is where they were last seen. Aqua is approximately where the bikes were found -- the article said the bikes were found on the southeast side of the lake. There's a nature trail right there, and it's just a few feet from I-380/Hwy 27/20. I hope no one from the Interstate was lying in wait.

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I just moved to Colorado at the beginning of June after having lived in Vinton and Cedar Rapids for the past 23 years. Oh how I wish I was there right now so I could go and help search for these two girls.

I have a 13 yo granddaughter and a 6 yo granddaughter that are in Iowa. I can't imagine either one of them being missing. My thoughts and prayers are with Lyric and Elizabeth as well as their parents, grandmother and all the rest of the family. I hope this has a good outcome.
 
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Have you watched the interview with one of the moms? If so, what is your take?
 
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I'm surprised at how quickly the grandmother was concerned about the girls. They were last with her at about 12:15 and had gone on a bike ride. It was only 2 PM when she was worried. I'm embarrassed to admit that I would probably have waited a lot longer if a child was unaccounted for after less than two hours on a summer afternoon. I wonder if she tried phoning them and couldn't get through and that's what caused her to become really concerned. It just seems to me that by notifying police at 3 PM, she knew right away that something was wrong. I find that a bit surprising ... so is it possible that the girls had cooked something up for the afternoon and the grandmother picked up on it, but assumed it was something innocent and didn't pursue it until 2 PM when alarm bells went off?

I'm curious ... do parents normally contact police if their children are unaccounted for after less than 2 hours when they're biking on a summer afternoon?

I thought the same thing. They hadn't been gone all that long... Can't explain why,but it stood out for me... Thankfully,though, at least LE was involved very quickly...
 
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An article was posted on about page 2 or so that said the lake is only about four feet deep, except near the island where it is 16 feet deep.
 
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I'm surprised at how quickly the grandmother was concerned about the girls. They were last with her at about 12:15 and had gone on a bike ride. It was only 2 PM when she was worried. I'm embarrassed to admit that I would probably have waited a lot longer if a child was unaccounted for after less than two hours on a summer afternoon. I wonder if she tried phoning them and couldn't get through and that's what caused her to become really concerned. It just seems to me that by notifying police at 3 PM, she knew right away that something was wrong. I find that a bit surprising ... so is it possible that the girls had cooked something up for the afternoon and the grandmother picked up on it, but assumed it was something innocent and didn't pursue it until 2 PM when alarm bells went off?

I'm curious ... do parents normally contact police if their children are unaccounted for after less than 2 hours when they're biking on a summer afternoon?

I would probably begin to be very concerned in just 2 hours as well if they did not answer the cell phone calls. They were in elementary school. Two hours is a long time to be unaccounted for if your only 8 yrs old. When my DD did not answer her cell I would panic when she was 12. I only got her the phone so I could keep track of her, and the rule was ANSWER THE PHONE WHEN I CALL OR YOU ARE GROUNDED.

So I can understand why they might have worried when the girls did not answer.
 
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I thought the same thing. They hadn't been gone all that long... Can't explain why,but it stood out for me... Thankfully,though, at least LE was involved very quickly...

I would have been worried if I was the grandmother. They are only 8 and 10 yrs old and that's almost two hours. That seems like a long time to me for a bike ride for kids that age unless they were planning on going to a friend's house or something similar. I do wonder if they had plans to go to a nearby store (to buy candy, soft drinks, etc.) since at least one of them had a purse. Still, I wouldn't expect that to take almost two hours.
 
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In the care of their grandmother, Wilma Cook, the girls went bike riding Friday morning. They were last seen at about 12:30 p.m. Friday in downtown Evansdale.

Read More: http://wcfcourier.com/news/local/ev...d32-11e1-a656-0019bb2963f4.html#ixzz20eYo36NO


so i wonder what time they actually left to go bike riding?? It says morning....maybe they didn't come back for lunch and grandma worried??
just curious how long they had been out before being spotted behind the clothing store
 
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Iowa mom says she thinks daughter, cousin abducted after bikes found abandoned

The mother of a missing eastern Iowa girl says she believes the 10-year-old and her 8-year-old cousin were abducted. Misty Cook Morrissey told the Waterloo-Cedar Falls Courier Saturday that it's out of character for her daughter, Lyric Cook, to wander too far from home. The girl often stays at the home of her younger cousin, Elizabeth Collins, in Evansdale while her mother works.

 
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