IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #12

[hytime]

I am recently new to posting but have been reading and following cases since Caylee A.
I have 3 grandkids and hope that somehow things change that the kids can still be kids and not have to be afraid of being harmed by some monster whether it be family or stranger. If caught molesting a child they need to be punished for life and maybe that will deter some of this harm that has come to so many recently. I also have nothing to do with this,except pray that they will somehow be found safe and can overcome what they have endured. Keep sleuthing and I will keep reading and praying for these precious girls.
I will post if I have anything to add,thanks for all you do to help bring the girls home.

 

[Eileen730]

i was just thinking as im catching up, someone who would prolly really "know" the area would be whoever mows the grass regularly in and around the park, do the same entities mow both the park/lake and the grass incline along the interstate? city takes care of park, state mows along interstate?

i think that someone would be more likely to notice a car driving on the trail or in the grass points in between, but what about an atv or public works vehicle of some sort or even a golf cart kind of off road vehicle?

I agree thats what i was thinking lawn maintenance men....
The guys that cut the lawns in that area...

Ill bet they go to that park and have lunch here we see them sitting under the trees at lunch time and they drink ENERGY DRINKS!

 

[cindersoot]

I agree thats what i was thinking lawn maintenance men....
The guys that cut the lawns in that area...

Ill bet they go to that park and have lunch here we see them sitting under the trees at lunch time and they drink ENERGY DRINKS!

I dought it because since the drought this summer the lawns haven't needed mowing.

 

[TobyWong*]

We have a bike path near me that reminds me of this bike path, in that it can seem busy when you glance and see 4 or 5 people biking or running but they move on. So there is never any real consistant presence on the trail. If there we're 2 perps, 1 could easliy scope out the on coming path traffic while the other does whatever it is they are doing. Especially from the grassy area. The start of the trail at the parking lot seems really wide open. ??

 

[auntiejoe]

Does anyone know if it's still for sale?

I checked, nothing listed. Maybe it was sold.

 

[Eileen730]

I dought it because since the drought this summer the lawns haven't needed mowing.

We have drought also and the lawn guys are still out and the lakes and such are the places they all go for lunch .....

These places many times have alot of the same ppl that go there joggers, dog walkers.... but these ppl usually go early morning or at dusk soooo

As i see it the lake is a place for utility workers, Lawn guys etc to sit and have their lunch....

 

[nervous_nellie]

I dought it because since the drought this summer the lawns haven't needed mowing.

true, but the same folks could have been taking care of the area for more than just this year...jmo

my grass really isnt growing enough to mow either but the weeds are doing just fine,lol...

 

[auntiejoe]

I really thought this was going to be solved. Sadly its not.

I wonder if they saw someone who knew they were not allowed to go that far from home and ran to hide from them. The person confronted them and said i'm taking you both home, get in my car. IDK but I find it hard to believe that Gma etc, none of them knew they were going to the lake all the time. That long interview with a witness RC and his wife seem very sincere and said they saw them all the time and his wife said I saw them every NIGHT.


Prayers they will be found today. They just have to be.

http://indianolarecordherald.desmoi...-missing-Iowa-girls-after-their-disappearance

 

[Eileen730]

true, but the same folks could have been taking care of the area for more than just this year...jmo

my grass really isnt growing enough to mow either but the weeds are doing just fine,lol...

I guess but we have a trillion lawn guys during the summer.
It wouldnt have to be lawn guys but roofers, painters, etc etc!
Any group that would go down to the lake and have lunch I would think could be outdoor workers!

 

[Eileen730]

I really thought this was going to be solved. Sadly its not.

I wonder if they saw someone who knew they were not allowed to go that far from home and ran to hide from them. The person confronted them and said i'm taking you both home, get in my car. IDK but I find it hard to believe that Gma etc, none of them knew they were going to the lake all the time. That long interview with a witness RC and his wife seem very sincere and said they saw them all the time and his wife said I saw them every NIGHT.


Prayers they will be found today. They just have to be.

I think it was someone that said hey girls come and look at this and they DID!

I dont think they were grabbed but walked over to the guy and that was it
Im just very surprised no one saw anything and if the girls didnt know this guy im sure they screamed!

Its very strange!

And the family had to know these girls went to the lake cause thats the first place they looked!

 

[MNDad]

I guess but we have a trillion lawn guys during the summer.
It wouldnt have to be lawn guys but roofers, painters, etc etc!
Any group that would go down to the lake and have lunch I would think could be outdoor workers!

I have white collar office job. I don't take lunch most days, but I have chosen to get away from office and drive to a park to just sit for a bit. It could be anyone and anyone could be a witness.

 

[Thinkzerz]

I believe these girls were being watched. I don't believe this was a case of perp sees girls and abducts them right then and there. This was planned IMO

 

[GCP]

I think it was someone that said hey girls come and look at this and they DID!

I dont think they were grabbed but walked over to the guy and that was it
Im just very surprised no one saw anything and if the girls didnt know this guy im sure they screamed!

Its very strange!

And the family had to know these girls went to the lake cause thats the first place they looked!

BBM.....I've seen this brought up so many times and it's not true. They looked for about an hour before they went to the lake. Look at a map of Evansdale and you'll see there's not that many spots to look for them so after looking at other places it makes sense that they would eventually go to the lake to look. jmho

 

[Thinkzerz]

OFF TOPIC -Was Shawn Hornbeck's kidnapper known to the family or was it a complete stranger. Actually all these kids that were abducted and found, were the kidnappers known to the family.

Jaycee Dugard, Scott Hornbeck, Elizabeth Smart, Steven Stainer, and Shasta Groene

 

[123ABC]

Well the more I ponder about these cases. I feel confident there will be a break in this all soon. I really do feel its right around the corner Its just my instincts, I believe the little bit of on the FBI plates will turn out to be more then these perp/s thought they could eat.. its just how I woke up this morning I guess on the right side of the bed!!!

 

[Tucarra]

They might have a "fleet" of two trucks. But I think it's just one.

O/T...but my neighbor, who's transportation is a motorbike, sometimes uses my car on rainy days...he calls and asks if he can borrow the "fleet"

 

[GGE]

Iv'e never seen this article before. Same ole but never seen it before.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/10354200

"Morrissey's most recent legal troubles began last July, when court records show he was pulled over in Waterloo and found to be in possession of baggies of methamphetamine and marijuana. The next month, he was arrested and charged with domestic abuse after police said he threw Misty Morrissey to the ground, smashed her face into the floor, put his knee over her neck so she could barely breathe, and broke her finger."

I only new he broke her finger.

BBM - every time I read that description, I can see it in my head. A girl on the floor on her stomach, face down, a knee on the back of her neck to hold her there, then her arm gets twisted back behind her and eventually, her finger is broken.

Does that not sound to everyone else the same as it sounds to me?

It's like she threatened to do something he didn't like, and so he got her down and immobile, then twisted her arm back and told her that if she didn't take it back, he'd break her finger.

I guess she would've stood her ground, seeing as how it ended up broken.

Am I the only one who can't see this any other way?

 

[ROM828]

BBM - every time I read that description, I can see it in my head. A girl on the floor on her stomach, face down, a knee on the back of her neck to hold her there, then her arm gets twisted back behind her and eventually, her finger is broken.

Does that not sound to everyone else the same as it sounds to me?

It's like she threatened to do something he didn't like, and so he got her down and immobile, then twisted her arm back and told her that if she didn't take it back, he'd break her finger.

I guess she would've stood her ground, seeing as how it ended up broken.

Am I the only one who can't see this any other way?

Please don't take offense, but I think that this is just nothing but speculation.....there could be a million reasons that led to this incident.

I also know that speculation occurs on some level in cases like this, but I am amazed at just how much speculation has gone on and most all of it is false.

 

[palaminodee]

http://www.kcrg.com/news/local/Iowa-Police-Flooded-With-Tips-on-Missing-Girls--165106456.html

newest article

 

[ROM828]

http://www.kcrg.com/news/local/Iowa-Police-Flooded-With-Tips-on-Missing-Girls--165106456.html

newest article

So....LE wants more detail....Well, then there gonna have to give the public a bit more, because it won't be long before everyone stops giving tips because they don't know what kind of tips to give.