IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #19

[peeples]

Police name specific streets in search for cousins

http://www.kcci.com/news/central-io...ion/-/9357080/16587274/-/uehv67z/-/index.html

 

[peeples]

well this narrows some stuff down i think


Police said they have "information that the girls were seen approximately 12:23 p.m. on Brovan Blvd. and between 12:30 p.m. and 1:00 p.m. on Gilbert Dr. in the area of Meyers Lake in Evansdale."

Officials said "anyone that was in the Arbutus Ave. or Gilbert Dr. and Elmer Ave. areas or anywhere in Evansdale on that day that may have seen the girls" should contact them.

Read more: http://www.kcci.com/news/central-io...16587274/-/uehv67z/-/index.html#ixzz26NmAn4YM

 

[Jax49]

well this narrows some stuff down i think


Police said they have "information that the girls were seen approximately 12:23 p.m. on Brovan Blvd. and between 12:30 p.m. and 1:00 p.m. on Gilbert Dr. in the area of Meyers Lake in Evansdale."

Officials said "anyone that was in the Arbutus Ave. or Gilbert Dr. and Elmer Ave. areas or anywhere in Evansdale on that day that may have seen the girls" should contact them.

Read more: http://www.kcci.com/news/central-io...16587274/-/uehv67z/-/index.html#ixzz26NmAn4YM

BBM

Thank you so much for posting this.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

A little 10 year old missing.... I pray she is found.

http://www.kwwl.com/story/19537188/waterloo-police-asking-for-help-in-finding-missing-girl

She looks like such a sweet girl.

It is so sad that children cant even safely walk to school anymore.

I pray they find her but it seems if she was at a friend's house or some place else LE would know that by now.

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Police name specific streets in search for cousins

http://www.kcci.com/news/central-io...ion/-/9357080/16587274/-/uehv67z/-/index.html

Are these the streets that posters have thought they went down? Or are they different?

tia

 

[concernedmother]

Now another little girl is missing. Could it be a case of trafficking?

 

[MotherOcean]

well this narrows some stuff down i think


Police said they have "information that the girls were seen approximately 12:23 p.m. on Brovan Blvd. and between 12:30 p.m. and 1:00 p.m. on Gilbert Dr. in the area of Meyers Lake in Evansdale."
Officials said "anyone that was in the Arbutus Ave. or Gilbert Dr. and Elmer Ave. areas or anywhere in Evansdale on that day that may have seen the girls" should contact them.

Read more: http://www.kcci.com/news/central-io...16587274/-/uehv67z/-/index.html#ixzz26NmAn4YM

Hmmm... so they were still around Brovan around 12:23. That is why TG's sighting does not fit the timeline. Atleast it has never fit for me. It sounds like they are being more specific about when Mr. C saw them near his house. He said sometime between noon and 3. I have always thought he was being intentionally vague because he was perhaps told by LE not to be any more specific.

 

[roseofsharon]

well this narrows some stuff down i think


Police said they have "information that the girls were seen approximately 12:23 p.m. on Brovan Blvd. and between 12:30 p.m. and 1:00 p.m. on Gilbert Dr. in the area of Meyers Lake in Evansdale."

Officials said "anyone that was in the Arbutus Ave. or Gilbert Dr. and Elmer Ave. areas or anywhere in Evansdale on that day that may have seen the girls" should contact them.

Read more: http://www.kcci.com/news/central-io...16587274/-/uehv67z/-/index.html#ixzz26NmAn4YM

So the bikes at the lake that TG had to dodge could not have been L's or E's. IMO

 

[CN2Souls]

Hmmmmmm Very Interesting

 

[hambirg]

well this narrows some stuff down i think


Police said they have "information that the girls were seen approximately 12:23 p.m. on Brovan Blvd. and between 12:30 p.m. and 1:00 p.m. on Gilbert Dr. in the area of Meyers Lake in Evansdale."

Officials said "anyone that was in the Arbutus Ave. or Gilbert Dr. and Elmer Ave. areas or anywhere in Evansdale on that day that may have seen the girls" should contact them.

Read more: http://www.kcci.com/news/central-io...16587274/-/uehv67z/-/index.html#ixzz26NmAn4YM

Well now we know when Mr. C most likely saw them, and it was after they were caught on cctv. :waitasec:

 

[MotherOcean]

Are these the streets that posters have thought they went down? Or are they different?

tia

This just gives us a more specific time for when they were on Brovan. That is the street that Elizabeth lives on and on which the video was taken. And it gives us a more specific time when they may have been near Mr. C's house. His house is on the corner of Lake Avenue and Gilbert. There have been different ideas about the usefulness of Mr. C's statement. I have always thought he was correct about seeing them. The mention of Elmer by LE is new and important because if they were on Elmer then they may have entered the lake at the end of that road rather than off of Arbutus. This confirms what I have thought for awhile... that they were going west past Mr. C's house while on Gilbert and that they may have entered the lake at the parking lot rather than down by Arbutus. But, that's just been my guess. They may have actually entered by Arbutus. We just don't know yet.

 

[Jax49]

well this narrows some stuff down i think


Police said they have "information that the girls were seen approximately 12:23 p.m. on Brovan Blvd. and between 12:30 p.m. and 1:00 p.m. on Gilbert Dr. in the area of Meyers Lake in Evansdale."

Officials said "anyone that was in the Arbutus Ave. or Gilbert Dr. and Elmer Ave. areas or anywhere in Evansdale on that day that may have seen the girls" should contact them.

Read more: http://www.kcci.com/news/central-io...16587274/-/uehv67z/-/index.html#ixzz26NmAn4YM

Well, well, well. That changes a lot of what we thought we knew. The 12:30-13:00 on Gilbert sounds like the lawn waterer. Wonder who the 12:23 on Brovan is? The CCTV on Brovan was supposedly 12:19.

Big thanks to LE for sharing more info.

 

[GrainneDhu]

well this narrows some stuff down i think


Police said they have "information that the girls were seen approximately 12:23 p.m. on Brovan Blvd. and between 12:30 p.m. and 1:00 p.m. on Gilbert Dr. in the area of Meyers Lake in Evansdale."

Officials said "anyone that was in the Arbutus Ave. or Gilbert Dr. and Elmer Ave. areas or anywhere in Evansdale on that day that may have seen the girls" should contact them.

Read more: http://www.kcci.com/news/central-io...16587274/-/uehv67z/-/index.html#ixzz26NmAn4YM

Thank you for posting this.

If that sighting is true, I think it rules out the theory that the abduction took place near the Collins home.

It would also mean that TG was mistaken in some way.

 

[Marilynilpa]

well this narrows some stuff down i think


Police said they have "information that the girls were seen approximately 12:23 p.m. on Brovan Blvd. and between 12:30 p.m. and 1:00 p.m. on Gilbert Dr. in the area of Meyers Lake in Evansdale."

Officials said "anyone that was in the Arbutus Ave. or Gilbert Dr. and Elmer Ave. areas or anywhere in Evansdale on that day that may have seen the girls" should contact them.

Read more: http://www.kcci.com/news/central-io...16587274/-/uehv67z/-/index.html#ixzz26NmAn4YM

You beat me to it, as I was just getting ready to post this! At least this gives us a little more info.

So I wonder if this 12:23 p.m. time rules out TG's sighting? If he saw the bikes as 12:20ish, would the girls have had time to get back on the bikes after he passed by, and be on Brovan at 12:23?

I am so glad we have a little more info about where the girls may be have been seen.

ETA: If this info is correct, I think TG must have been mistaken about the day/time he saw the bikes, or he saw two different bikes that day. JMO

 

[palaminodee]

can anyone get Holly to update the map showing the siting times related to the street map??
that would be really helpful!!

 

[CN2Souls]

OR....


TG is Right and there was SOME OTHER people at the Lake on Bikes.....

What kind of people would just throw their bikes in the path and not care if others could get around them....


:waitasec:

 

[roseofsharon]

You beat me to it, as I was just getting ready to post this! At least this gives us a little more info.

So I wonder if this 12:23 p.m. time rules out TG's sighting? If he saw the bikes as 12:20ish, would the girls have had time to get back on the bikes after he passed by, and be on Brovan at 12:23?

I am so glad we have a little more info about where the girls may be have been seen.

ETA: If this info is correct, I think TG must have been mistaken about the day/time he saw the bikes, or he saw two different bikes that day. JMO

IMO, TG did not see the bikes. So I wonder whose bikes he did see and were the bikes he saw that similar in appearance to the girl's bikes that he could state that he saw the girl's bikes. :waitasec::waitasec::waitasec: IMO

 

[katydid23]

Thank you for posting this.

If that sighting is true, I think it rules out the theory that the abduction took place near the Collins home.

It would also mean that TG was mistaken in some way.

TG may have seen the bikes. But it might have been before they were abducted.

 

[MotherOcean]

You beat me to it, as I was just getting ready to post this! At least this gives us a little more info.

So I wonder if this 12:23 p.m. time rules out TG's sighting? If he saw the bikes as 12:20ish, would the girls have had time to get back on the bikes after he passed by, and be on Brovan at 12:23?
I am so glad we have a little more info about where the girls may be have been seen.

I don't think so. The shortest distance and time that I can get from Google maps is 6 minutes and 1.3 miles from Brovan to the entrance to Meyer's Lake from the parking lot at the end of Elmer Avenue.

http://goo.gl/maps/PcSib

 

[RNER]

OR....


TG is Right and there was SOME OTHER people at the Lake on Bikes.....

What kind of people would just throw their bikes in the path and not care if others could get around them....


:waitasec:

Boys!