IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #20

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  • #581
Regarding the above article about recognition difficulties ... the below is from Stanford University. There are a number of suggestions about what people can do to improve their recognition skills. It relates specifically to remembering people's names ... but the skills are transferable:

Learning Students Names

Teachers who are slow in learning the names of their students often tend to be rated as uninspired and uninspiring. Teachers cannot claim to be concerned about how well their students learn if they themselves do not try as hard as they can to show they care about one of the most important possessions anyone can have in a mass civilization: a face and a name. This article goes over several ways to quickly learn student’s names. The author recommends that you try out several of these methods to find the one that works best for you.

Before Coming To Class, Read The Class Roster Several Times. Focus on the last names and honorifics (Mr./Ms.). Memorize as many of them as you can. Then you can concentrate on looking for Williams and remembering what he or she looks like. At this point there is no need to focus on the first, or given names. That just increases memory burden without yielding initial benefits.

Provide A Student Survey During The First Class- On the first day give a brief survey that asks for a name and e-mail address (or favorite sport, etc.). Be sure to include an open-ended essay question about backgrounds and expectations. Allow students at least 15 minutes of writing time. While the students are busy writing, study their faces, clothing styles, posture, or anything that you can use to personalize the individual student.

Set Up A Mnemonic Position Chart- The first row on your left "A", the second row, "B" and so on. Students often return to the same seat they sat in during the first class, (or somewhere close by). Then, starting with position "A1," ask the students to introduce themselves and say a few words about themselves and their expectations for the course. While listening as carefully as possible to what student "A1" is saying, find the name on the class roster and code "A1" next to it. Add any notes that might help you remember that student. During the next class, refer to your class roster and chart. (A variation of this is the Take A Digital Photo below)

Review- Before the second class meeting, review the surnames and the survey results and attempt to recollect names, faces and places. Spend some time testing your knowledge of students' names: Which ones can you name? What are the names of those you cannot identify? What identifiable characteristic will help you remember certain students?

Stanford Center for Teaching and Learning
http://ctl.stanford.edu

All strategies aimed at improving name-face recognition seem to fail me when school starts, and I'm faced with learning the names that belong to the faces of the about 130 students I will teach. I start the year by telling them I apologize in advance if I call them the wrong name (either someone in their class or a sibling or cousin). I also tell them to let me know right away if they prefer their middle name or a shortened version of their first name. It usually takes me about 2 weeks.
 
  • #582
All strategies aimed at improving name-face recognition seem to fail me when school starts, and I'm faced with learning the names that belong to the faces of the about 130 students I will teach. I start the year by telling them I apologize in advance if I call them the wrong name (either someone in their class or a sibling or cousin). I also tell them to let me know right away if they prefer their middle name or a shortened version of their first name. It usually takes me about 2 weeks.

One of my teacher friends swears by starting the school year with the kids seated alphabetically by first name. [ by whatever they want to be called.] After a couple of weeks she lets them switch seats around, but by then she has their names pretty well figured out. Adam's and Anna's in the front row, Zach and Ziva in the back.
 
  • #583
Peeples, are these buying stations on private land? Are they isolated, or alongside the roads? I wonder if these buying stations were checked, or monitored after Luric and Elizabeth disappeared?

They appear to be on private land, They are along roads.. but very desolate roads for the most part. I saw a couple that I posted maps to that were along what seemed to be busier roads, but it appears most are along gravel or county roads.
 
  • #584
Who is gd?
 
  • #585
One of my teacher friends swears by starting the school year with the kids seated alphabetically by first name. [ by whatever they want to be called.] After a couple of weeks she lets them switch seats around, but by then she has their names pretty well figured out. Adam's and Anna's in the front row, Zach and Ziva in the back.

I seat them alphabetically by last name. Your friend's way sounds better. I would try it next year but I think this is my last, 30 years in.
 
  • #586
Who is gd?

Could you please indicate what post you are referring to? It's hard to answer a question without some kind of context.
 
  • #587
Could you please indicate what post you are referring to? It's hard to answer a question without some kind of context.

It's a person. We have all these abreviations and I wondered what this is.
 
  • #588
It's a person. We have all these abreviations and I wondered what this is.

Is it short for GrainneDhu, one of the members here?

I am not sure about the content in which gd is used...hint please?:what:
 
  • #589
Someone on the last thread asked about exit routes, in particular one that included McCoy.

Cook_Collins_exit_routes2a.jpg


Just thinking about routes that perps take when there`s someone in the car that shouldn`t be there ... the rapist and murderer of Joanna Yeates in Bristol involved a bizarre escape route ... one where there was less traffic.

The yellow route was closed at the time. Main roads in and out of town are Lafayette, River Forest Road, South Evans, Grand Blvd, Dubuque Road, and perhaps the red route including McCoy if knowledgeable of the area.
:moo:
 
  • #590
Why? IIRC hunting season starts soon and hunters will be out in the woods so might be more likely to find them if they're out in the woods somewhere. Otherwise I haven't read anything that suggests the perp is a hunter. Do you think the abductor is hoping a fellow hunter will find the girls or something?

Hunting season has already started! Deer season, anyway.

In Iowa, the season on deer and pheasant is divided up into many smaller seasons. Youth season for deer started 15 September and my neighbour's teens have already hunted over my property. There's also bow season, muzzle loader, disabled, open season, etc. The idea is to spread it out so that the first day of deer season doesn't see a stampede of hunters all at once out in the woods (recipe for disaster).

If the girls' bodies are in the woods, they are more likely to be found by a deer hunter, since deer are browsers and prefer eating twigs and stuff. Pheasant (also divided into many different seasons) are more likely to be found in open fields and in light cover.
 
  • #591
Please vote for this...... Thanks you so much !!!!!


Please go to Jane Velez Mitchell and vote for them to do Lyric and Elizabeth's story


http://www.hlntv.com/shows/jane-velez-mitchell


It is sad we have to choose which child to choose .
Please leave a comment. It may help.

UPDATE 12:26 p.m. PST

5% Isabel Celis

30% Kyron Horman

32% Missing Iowa cousins

4% Baby Lisa

29% Baby Ayla
 
  • #592
It's a person. We have all these abreviations and I wondered what this is.

Maybe if you would quote the post you refer to, it would be easier for us to know what you are talking about.:waitasec:

ETA: I know gd aren't initials for any major people involved in this case.
 
  • #593
Yellow might be where the girls rode their bikes,
Green might be how they rode thier bikes from Gilbert and Elmer along Arbutus to the drainage pipe gate
Purple might be the routes taken after the girls had been abducted

Cook_Collins_complete_possibilities.jpg


Excellent maps, Otto!! I know I said this before, but the on-ramps onto Interstate 380 were closed at River Forest at that time, so they could not have used the purple route.

I was driving down River Forest Road the other day, and I was thinking to myself.... the girls were last on video heading down Brovan towards River Forest Road. Assuming they went South on River Forest Road, why not take that road all the way to the Lake? Then I started to look, and I noticed the sidewalk on the East side of the road (heading South from Lafayette) ends at Central Ave! The girls would have had to turned left there and gone East on Central, or crossed River Forest to the opposite side of the street!! I think they went down Central, maybe went South on Ayers (there is another park there) and then went down Elmer Drive. If they went down River Forest to Central Ave, then down Central, they would not have hit any intersections that they would not have had the right-of-way (except turning left on Central), but meaning no stopping!

BBM

I'm trying to remember which roads the police set up roadblocks on on July 20 - I suspect those roads and intersections are LE's suspected exit routes. :twocents::moo:
 
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Maybe if you would quote the post you refer to, it would be easier for us to know what you are talking about.:waitasec:

ETA: I know gd aren't initials for any major people involved in this case.

I do not know what post this is from. But I wonder if it is grand daughter?
That is the only thing I can think of.
I hope they respond to us.
 
  • #596
Ever since Ollipop posted information that pegged normal traffic on the nature trail at around 10 users per hour, I've thought it was the perfect place for a "spider" type of attack (I love that comparison). That would be an average of one user every six minutes, which would give plenty of time to select and attack one before the next user came into sight.

Of course, people never act the way the numbers indicate. There were undoubtedly small groups of people at times and longer waits between users at times but overall, it was the perfect spot for that type of attack.

Waiting for the right victim may also have increased the perp's frustration level, so that when 2 girls came along, the perp was more willing to take the opportunity to strike.

I agree! Plus, this is why I am stuck on the weather that day! It was so hot and humid after the morning rain/sprinkling, it seems as if there was a limited amount of children out and about that morning/noon, based on the Auction video only catching these girls on video during the time in question. :moo:
 
  • #597
I think he saw a different set of bicycles.....the OTHER BICYCLES....

And wondering too about the person who posted they saw two guys maniacally tearing apart bikes in the campground near there...would take me two days to find those postings...but yeah...thinking right-ish time, wrong bikes....

That was me, Tucarra! I agree. I think LE thinks there were two sets of bikes, based on the questions asked of us by LE because we were camping in the area that night. LE asked if we had brought any bikes with us in the campground, and if we had any canoes, kayaks, or paddleboats with us. The answer was no! But, we told LE about the two men who returned to the campground around midnight that night, tearing apart bikes. We thought it was strange and they were making a lot of noise, but didn't know all the details of this case at the time, either. :what:

I'm not going to go into the other TG details again, because I guess it's just a rumor. But I think the bikes he saw were the spider's web, so to speak. The perp was waiting for the right person or people to come along and get off their bikes... perhaps to investigate or help an injured person? :moo:
 
  • #598
That story about the bikes being taken apart in the campground has always disturbed me. It might be involved with the girl's disappearance somehow. MOO!
 
  • #599
IF there was a bike accident and IF lkuminol was sprayed on an area, would luminol show up at night? I hope this makes sense.
 
  • #600
I agree! Plus, this is why I am stuck on the weather that day! It was so hot and humid after the morning rain/sprinkling, it seems as if there was a limited amount of children out and about that morning/noon, based on the Auction video only catching these girls on video during the time in question. :moo:

Good information. Thanks for confirming it rained some, a sprinkling (thats what I call a short rain too.) It does tend to get hot and humid after summer rain in my area too. I definitely understand children not being out and about when it's sticky hot. Makes perfect sense why Lizzy and Lyric were the only ones caught on the cctv.

Wish we knew if a car was seen on the cctv soon after the girls passed.

imo
 
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