IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #21

[gregjrichards]

Hi everyone just found out the terrible news I am sat here crying. I cannot imagine the horrendous pain the girls families and friends must be feeling right now. Like you I imagine I suspected this case may not have a happy outcome but always held out a little hope.

R.I.P Elizabeth and Lyric I am so sorry that your lives were cut so tragically short. You will never be forgotten.

I am so sorry everyone we never got the outcome we wanted but I want to thank you for caring about the girls since day one. I hope those responsible are held accountable and the girls families get the answers to the questions they have in order to grieve and the help they need in order to cope. Please keep them in your prayers I know you will.

Here is a link to the article where I found out the terrible news http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-Lyric-Cook-Morrissey-Elizabeth-Collins.html

 

[oceanblueeyes]

The only reason I think it could be someone known to the girls is due to the distance they seemed to have been taken; often a random stranger will leave the body fairly close to home and not really do much out of the way to conceal it, since they are unlikely to be a suspect.

Didnt Jessie Davis' boyfriend take her body about 20 miles away from her home to a national forest?

I think it depends on the gender of the perp and victim. Women tend to discard bodies very close to home while men tend to take the body miles away or at least they do when they murder their own children.

How far away was Danielle Van Dam found when Westerfield discarded her remains? Wasnt it about 12 miles or more from her home? And I remember Melissa Huckaby took Sandra's little body to the holding pond about 2 miles from where they lived.

imo

 

[longtallcold]

sorry if it has been posted, but does anyone have the link to the presser from today? TIA

 

[matou]

Someone or some people had a line to give these girls to get them into a vehicle, leave their bikes and then drive them outside of the area to do horrible things to them, IMO. To take two girls would require at least two people or one person with a gun. Again JMO.

 

[threecrazykids]

I agree 100%. This isn't about a drug debt, it was about desire. A monster either way, and I pray justice will come swiftly for the girls. I think those hunters were their angels, they brought them home. The thought of their little bodies out in the cold, it brings me to tears. I pray justice is swift.

As I learned of the news it brought tears to my eyes as well...then I thought to myself "during all these months we sleuthed, prayed, dug, dug and dug some more for answers...this WHOLE TIME - God had them wrapped in his arms". Although what happened is unimaginable these girls were together...even as they met Jesus.

 

[Marilynilpa]

Here is a link I plan to check more frequently: http://www.bhcso.org/WhosInJail.aspx

 

[tlcya]

I got through your post with composure til I Reached your siggy line. Tears on realizing after the presser tomorrow you will likely be moving our girls up to RIP



I pray the family is abe to support and take comfort in one another. Just awful news.

ETA his was in respones to gregj' post. Forgot to quote.

 

[longtallcold]

think this is it FYI for those who may want it: http://wcfcourier.com/news/evansdal...11e2-8ae9-0019bb2963f4.html?comment_form=true

also it appears from that link they held an impromptu vigil at the lake

 

[cindersoot]

Jmo, but we really do not know how long our angels have been deceased.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I agree 100%. This isn't about a drug debt, it was about desire. A monster either way, and I pray justice will come swiftly for the girls. I think those hunters were their angels, they brought them home. The thought of their little bodies out in the cold, it brings me to tears. I pray justice is swift.

So many hunters have solved the mystery of a missing loved one for so many families. It is never the news they want to hear but at least they know where they have been and can bring them home to have a proper and respectful burial.

It truly is heartbreaking to think they were out there all alone for months on end. They were very best friends in life and they died loving and trying to protect each other the best they could, imo. May they rest in peace now.

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Jmo, but we really do not know how long our angels have been deceased.

No we dont but I fully expect the ME to say they have been dead close to the time they were taken. The ME will have to do a guesstimation now due to how long they have been out in the elements but it will include the day they went missing imo.

MO

 

[Dr. Know?]

Interesting there's an inmate with a common name to the case. Last name that is.

I also thought Bremer Co. Jail but it takes you to Vinelink. You have to know a name to do a search.

 

[i8mypaint]

So sad

 

[oceanblueeyes]

think this is it FYI for those who may want it: http://wcfcourier.com/news/evansdal...11e2-8ae9-0019bb2963f4.html?comment_form=true

also it appears from that link they held an impromptu vigil at the lake

For example, kayakers found the body of 5-year-old Evelyn Miller in the Cedar River, days after she was abducted from her Floyd home in 2005, and anglers and boaters often discover the bodies of drowning victims.

“During recent years deer hunters have also found evidence of meth labs throughout the state,” Lancaster said

 

[cindersoot]

Interesting there's an inmate with a common name to the case. Last name that is.

I also thought Bremer Co. Jail but it takes you to Vinelink. You have to know a name to do a search.

I tryed that and typed in a name and it took me to peoples search.

 

[mck16]

So many hunters have solved the mystery of a missing loved one for so many families. It is never the news they want to hear but at least they know where they have been and can bring them home to have a proper and respectful burial.

It truly is heartbreaking to think they were out there all alone for months on end. They were very best friends in life and they died loving and trying to protect each other the best they could, imo. May they rest in peace now.

IMO

I was going to say the same thing. that is true at least here in Texas. So sad to think what is lying out in our woods. Maybe when there are search teams out they should think like a hunter and go to those places. Of course I have DR on my mind and hoping the same results are not true for him. This is all so sad and way too much to process right now. jmo

 

[Dee10]

It would be interesting to know if someone has any statistics, if where a body is placed/location wise gives a clue of who likely is responsible. The manor of death can say a lot, so why wouldn't distance, etc.?

 

[FightTheOstrich]

The problem of meth labs has greatly reduced in the last five years, due to:

*the shake'n'bake method, which can be done in the backseat of a car; this makes it much more portable

*the Iowa law that took products containing pseudoephedrine behind the counter and requires anyone buying them to sign a register which puts their name into the statewide computer system and also mandates how much pseudoephedrine containing products any individual can buy in a month

*the cheapness and wide availability of meth made in Mexico

There are hardly any meth lab busts in Iowa these days; most meth arrests are either users or dealers who are part of organised crime networks.

Iowa was one of the Top 10 Meth States in 2011. The "shake and bake" method is very common in rural areas, everywhere. At least 3/4 of U.S. made Meth is done thru the "shake and bake" method. Meth users who don't make it themselves get a less potent version out of Mexico. So while Meth Labs my be on the decline, the problem especially in the South and Midwest is not.

 

[otto]

Not to beat a dead horse, although I have perfected my dead horse beating technique, but we still don't know where the girls were abducted from, only that their bikes were found at the lake, right?

Secluded place nearby to dump the bikes, secluded place not too far away to dump the bodies.

This makes me just sick to think about, but I really have to wonder if the perp snatched the girls, killed them and was back in time to help with the search. 21 miles is not that far by car.

I'm really hoping for an arrest tomorrow, but not banking on it.

The last I heard is that there was a witness that placed the girls at the entrance to Meyer's lake park; at the road that goes to the parking lot. I think it's safe to assume that they were abducted at the park. I think it's possible that they were lured to where the bikes were found on the pretense of going for a boat ride ... but I suspect that they were then marched into the woods at the end of Maiden Lane and abducted.

 

[otto]

The only reason I think it could be someone known to the girls is due to the distance they seemed to have been taken; often a random stranger will leave the body fairly close to home and not really do much out of the way to conceal it, since they are unlikely to be a suspect.

The location where they were found may be close to the perp's home.