IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #4

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Authorities requesting that everybody cooperate with the police. However, "it is their choice", referring to Morrissey family's decision not to speak with police.
by Chris Essig - Courier via mobile 5:07 PM
 
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Kids were accounted for up until 12:15 Friday
by Chris Essig - Courier via mobile 6:08 PM
Authorities requesting that everybody cooperate with the police. However, "it is their choice", referring to Morrissey family's decision not to speak with police.
by Chris Essig - Courier via mob
 
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Kids were accounted for up until 12:15 Friday
by Chris Essig - Courier via mobile 5:08 PM
 
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Family's decision not to take polygraphs is a "distraction" - Abben
 
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Q: Do family members not wanting to take poly's affect the investiagation
A: It's a distraction, i don't know why the families wouldn't
 
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Family has taken polygraphs already, Abben said
by Chris Essig - Courier via mobile 5:09 PM
 
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These press releases drive me batty.:banghead: If you aren't going to give any new information NOR comment on things that have been CONFIRMED BY POLICE, why bother?

I guess it annoys me the most when he says "I am not aware of that". Either he is the most UNKNOWING person in this investigation, or that is a lie. The least he could say is "I am not able to make personal comments regarding that question." But "I'm not aware of that" makes me want to scream.:banghead:
 
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O/T: Pittsburgh PA older man luring children with tootsie roll lollipops and had photos of children on his dash board!
 
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If family refused to take further polys>that would be a distraction: Abben
 
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These press releases drive me batty.:banghead: If you aren't going to give any new information NOR comment on things that have been CONFIRMED BY POLICE, why bother?

I guess it annoys me the most when he says "I am not aware of that". Either he is the most UNKNOWING person in this investigation, or that is a lie. The least he could say is "I am not able to make personal comments regarding that question." But "I'm not aware of that" makes me want to scream.:banghead:

this is actually about the way they always go... but yes, it can be frustrating..

what actually is even more frustrating is when they stop and there is no news at all.

:moo:
 
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"We're no closer today than last Friday" - Abben
by Chris Essig - Courier via mobile 6:12 PM
No details on how reliable leads have been
by Chris Essig - Courier via mobile 6:12 PM
Sounds like divers will be done tomorrow. Lake has really deep pockets. Around 15-20 feet. Lake only down about 5 feet
 
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Report about missing girls came in at 2:47
 
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"We're no closer today than last Friday" - Abben
by Chris Essig - Courier via mobile 5:12 PM


:-(
 
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well, something was off with Aunt Tammy's comment about 1130....
 
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Someone Please Refresh My Memory....


Last Time Seen 12:15 PM Friday,

WHO and WHERE?????
 
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Lake parking lot will be closed off by 10 p.m. tonight
by Chris Essig - Courier via mobile 5:14 PM
 
  • #318
Nothing to indicate other Evansdale children are in danger
by Chris Essig - Courier via mobile 6:15 PM
Lake parking lot will be closed off by 10 p.m. tonight
 
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Well, I can't take almost an hour to watch this video that you post to me, do you have some bullet points that you can share instead?

It's always been my opinion that I would always cooperate and answer any and all questions any LE has for me no matter the situation.

(The original point of my post was that I didn't think they HIRED an attorney. I think that some attorney is giving them random free advice. My second sentence "If you have nothing to hide, why should anyone stop talking or taking poly's?" was my own personal thought. I guess I should have said IMO, JMO, MOO as every time I don't someone jumps all over me.)

I realised it was your own opinion and I would have made the exact same post. You can trust me on that or you can do a search on my username here and see how many times I've made that exact same post.

I encourage anyone interested in crime to watch that video, it's a real eye opener (particularly the second half of the video where a former police officer basically agrees with everything presented in the first part and gives real life examples of most of the main points).

And the former police officer says that he would never talk to the police without his lawyer present.

As I recall them, not a complete list and in no particular order:

A) Because the police can lie to you and mislead you as to their intentions.

B) Because the police can say things like "well, okay, you didn't do it. But help us out here, if you had done it, how would you have done it?" and then present what you say in court as a confession (that tactic features in several Innocence Project exonerations).

C) Because you can inadvertently say something that makes you look guilty even if you are absolutely innocent.

The example given in the tape goes something like this: the police are questioning you about a robbery that took place at a certain address. You know you didn't do it; you were at your mother's house, four hours away. Unknown to you, an eyewitness who knew you from many years ago told the police that they saw you within two blocks of the robbery a half hour before the robbery (mistaken eyewitness testimony has been a factor in close to 75% of the Innocence Project's exonerations).

At trial, the prosecutor presents the eyewitness. You present... your mother. Who is the jury most likely to believe?

D) Because many people can be bullied into false confessions (25% of the Innocence Project's exonerations involved false confessions).

E) Because the police can use any tiny inconsistency in your answers to impeach you as a witness. Unlike many TV shows, people do not robotically repeat the same story word for word even when innocent (the whole "the truth never changes" thing). The same question, if asked in different ways, can elicit different answers, even from someone telling the truth.

So, for instance, you tell the police that you saw a black car in the driveway that you believe was the guilty party. The police keep asking you about the lighting conditions, how far away you were from the car, are you absolutely positively sure that the car was black? You start to feel a little doubt and wonder if it was actually a very dark colour that you mistook for black and so you say "well, I know it was a very dark colour."

At trial, the prosecutor is likely to present every single time you made any slight change to your testimony as proof that you are lying.

F) Because if you genuinely made a mistake about something during your interrogation, such as mis-stating the time of day something happened, it can be used as proof you were lying. It is absolutely normal to make small mistakes but when such honest mistakes are presented at trial, it can make you look really guilty.

G) Because the police are experts at verbally tripping people up and will do everything possible to trip you up. They are likely to succeed. Again, it makes you look guilty at trial.

And there's more, I just can't remember it all right now.
 
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Someone Please Refresh My Memory....


Last Time Seen 12:15 PM Friday,

WHO and WHERE?????

Grandma

on bikes near the big and tall store which is by the home

clothing description is not exact either

case map in opening post
 
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