IA IA - Elizabeth Collins & Lyric Cook - Found Deceased - Evansdale - 13 Jul 2012 #39

  • #141
Drew Collins interview on YouTube, December 5, 2024, 12 years after remains located
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  • #142
I was just reading through old discussions from 2012, looking for info about Seven Bridges Park being a youth camp in the 1990s (kayaking and other outdoor sports) and came across this very detailed map about the murders here:
I’m sad. This map no longer works…I was just browsing through old cases I know about and wanted to see the map…bummer.
 
  • #143
Drew gives an interview:
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One of the things that everyone has wondered about is if any DNA was recovered. Less than a minute into the video, Drew mentions investigators feeling positive about new DNA technologies that they believe may help. If I may read between those lines, they have some sort of DNA evidence. It may have been flawed or insufficient, but they must have something for that to be a possibility.
 
  • #144
Drew gives an interview:
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One of the things that everyone has wondered about is if any DNA was recovered. Less than a minute into the video, Drew mentions investigators feeling positive about new DNA technologies that they believe may help. If I may read between those lines, they have some sort of DNA evidence. It may have been flawed or insufficient, but they must have something for that to be a possibility.
That’s great news!
 
  • #145
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  • #146
The three-part documentary, titled “Taken Together: Who Killed Lyric and Elizabeth?” will debut Aug. 8 on HBO Max, a subscription steaming service.

Synopsis: Known as “the case that haunts the Midwest,” the series dives into the haunting 2012 double abduction of two cousins, 10-year-old Lyric Cook-Morrissey and 8-year-old Elizabeth Collins, in Evansdale, Iowa. With over seven years of exclusive access and insider interviews conducted by Sires, including an additional young girl who escaped her kidnapper against all odds, compelling footage of the two victim’s families over a crucial passage of time and new information around the case, TAKEN TOGETHER: WHO KILLED LYRIC AND ELIZABETH? offers a searing and unforgettable lens on this unimaginable crime.
 
  • #147
The three-part documentary, titled “Taken Together: Who Killed Lyric and Elizabeth?” will debut Aug. 8 on HBO Max, a subscription steaming service.

Synopsis: Known as “the case that haunts the Midwest,” the series dives into the haunting 2012 double abduction of two cousins, 10-year-old Lyric Cook-Morrissey and 8-year-old Elizabeth Collins, in Evansdale, Iowa. With over seven years of exclusive access and insider interviews conducted by Sires, including an additional young girl who escaped her kidnapper against all odds, compelling footage of the two victim’s families over a crucial passage of time and new information around the case, TAKEN TOGETHER: WHO KILLED LYRIC AND ELIZABETH? offers a searing and unforgettable lens on this unimaginable crime.
This aired last year, I watched it at the time.

Don't know if anyone is getting it just now, but it's not brand new.
 
  • #148
This aired last year, I watched it at the time.

Don't know if anyone is getting it just now, but it's not brand new.
You're right. Here's another from a month ago
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  • #149
Lizzy and Lyric deserve their Justice and Truth just like Abby & Libby finally received. I know it's been longer, but it's never too late. It will be a happy day when their murderer is caught and convicted. They have not been forgotten, the community was devastated and continued to raise awareness.

I was living in the area when the murders occurred, moved a couple of years later. It was a very troubling, sad and somber time. I remember their posters and ribbons being everywhere, always. :( I could barely walk down the 'Main Street' without shedding a tear.

#Justice4Lizzy&Lyric

JMO
 
  • #150
Lizzy and Lyric deserve their Justice and Truth just like Abby & Libby finally received. I know it's been longer, but it's never too late. It will be a happy day when their murderer is caught and convicted. They have not been forgotten, the community was devastated and continued to raise awareness.

I was living in the area when the murders occurred, moved a couple of years later. It was a very troubling, sad and somber time. I remember their posters and ribbons being everywhere, always. :( I could barely walk down the 'Main Street' without shedding a tear.

#Justice4Lizzy&Lyric

JMO
did a lot of people used to walk/bike around that pond? I keep seeing mentions of it being "leech -filled" but it seems to have a boat dock, a path and now a memorial garden. Was it basically considered a safe area in 2012?
 
  • #151
did a lot of people used to walk/bike around that pond? I keep seeing mentions of it being "leech -filled" but it seems to have a boat dock, a path and now a memorial garden. Was it basically considered a safe area in 2012?
It was used as a walking/bike path, no swimming that I can remember when I was there. Yes, it was considered safe, especially during the day because it was so out in the open. I lived by the University in Cedar Falls about 20 minutes from there, but Waterloo (Evansdale) did have some areas known for drug trafficking and rough crowds. I wouldn't be out and about in that area at night.

JMO
 
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  • #153
It's good to see some attention back on this case. I believe it was someone local based mainly on the fact that where their bodies were recovered was very, very remote. Not somewhere a person just passing through would know about IMO.
 
  • #154
This is one of those cases that lives rent free in my head. As with everyone else on this forum, I hope justice can be served for Lyric and Lizzy. To think that someone could do that and then just walk around Scot free makes me so angry
 
  • #155
I keep waiting for the news that this case has been solved
 
  • #156
The place where Elizabeth's and Lyric's bodies were found would be almost impossible to locate for someone not familiar with the area.
I was just rewatching the documentary "Taken Together". In looking at the drone footage used of the Seven Bridges area, it doesn't look like there even fire roads/paths there? Looks like walking or boating would be the only way to the spot the girls were discovered?
 
  • #157
I just watched the special Taken Together on HBOMax and I think it was drug related. Wasn’t Lyric’s dad supposed to go and agree to a plea deal the day the girls went missing or within a week of the day that they went missing? When a person pleas out in a drug case doesn’t that sometimes involve snitching/flipping on others in the drug world??
 
  • #158
I just watched the special Taken Together on HBOMax and I think it was drug related. Wasn’t Lyric’s dad supposed to go and agree to a plea deal the day the girls went missing or within a week of the day that they went missing? When a person pleas out in a drug case doesn’t that sometimes involve snitching/flipping on others in the drug world??
There was local rumor of this being drug related from the very start and that angle was heavily investigated. IDK, I personally think it was a sick child predator, but anything is possible.

Just a horrible tragedy that deserves justice no matter who, and I hope there are answers and somebody is held accountable for Lizzy & Lyric. They were so young and innocent, even younger and has gone unsolved longer than the Abby & Libby from the Delphi case.

JMO
 
  • #159
There was local rumor of this being drug related from the very start and that angle was heavily investigated. IDK, I personally think it was a sick child predator, but anything is possible.

Just a horrible tragedy that deserves justice no matter who, and I hope there are answers and somebody is held accountable for Lizzy & Lyric. They were so young and innocent, even younger and has gone unsolved longer than the Abby & Libby from the Delphi case.

JMO
I agree. If someone from the father's drug dealings was planning to do this, they would have to know the girls whereabouts that day and where they were going on their bike ride. That would be extremely difficult if not impossible. I believe it was simply a crime of opportunity perpetrated by a local child predator.
 
  • #160
Those who have been posting for the girls for a long time know that this is the case that brought me to Websleuths, a day after they went missing. I lived in Iowa at the time (still do) and remember the exact moment I found out they were missing. I had one of our local TV stations (I even remember which one it was, KCCI) as an app on my phone and got a breaking news push notification about it as I was opening my door after just arriving at my home after work. This was on the same day they went missing and would’ve been around 4 or 5pm. I think they were reported missing around 3pm so that was a quick turnaround to getting the news out to an area 2 hours away.

I cannot believe it’s been almost 13 years since they went missing. I had a two year old and one year old at the time. They are now 14 and 13, ages the girls never got to be.

I have a few unpopular opinions on the case. I do not think Michael Klunder had anything to do with it and didn’t very early on. I think there is a very good chance Jeff Altmayer did it. The police made a critical error in not releasing a description of a similar SUV seen in the area by 3 different people around the time of the disappearance until a year after the abduction. And the most devastating one, I do not think this case will ever be solved. I hope I’m wrong about that. I think about the girls often.
 

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