GUILTY IA - Kendra, 10, & Alysha Suing, 8, murdered in their Sioux City home, 6 Jan 2008

[Jeana (DP)]

As you can see, I edited the title of the thread.

 

[Filly]

Cornerstone World Outreach Church youth group to which the little Suing girls belonged was also attended by five youths who were bludgeoned to death in 2001. God Bless these kids.http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080109/NEWS/801090390

 

[MeoW333]

Did anyone catch this in the article:
"Kendra's and Alysha's bodies were found strangled and stabbed after firefighters responded to an anonymous call about a fire at the house Sunday afternoon."

Article link:
http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/articles/2008/01/09/news/top/15109b7e5f0a9e07862573cb000c7dac.txt

It sounds like a witness called to report a fire there when they heard something else. Reminds me of how they say to yell "fire" if you are in trouble, so that way people respond. I wonder how close their neighbors are to them, and if this was their anonymous way of reporting it since they're afraid to get involved?

A 13 year old sex offender living there also, yet not home at the time... 13 years old, what happened to him to make him bad so early? This family seems off..

 

[Bobbisangel]

How horrible. Their bio father said he hasn't seen them in two years. That is pretty sad. He didn't say that the mother wouldn't let him just stated it as fact. I hope he feels guilty as heck.

I'd really like to know if the mom knew what had been going on. It sounds like the girls must have gone home and talked about what the bus driver said about devil worship and that is why they didn't go back or maybe the stepdad made up the story about not getting along with someone at church and they didn't want to go back. Just makes me wonder what kind of a home life they actually had with that stepdad and if the mother was aware.

Regardless, those two little girls are dead now because of him. Such a tragedy how so many children are being murdered.

 

[Mygirlsadie]

Ugh this makes me so sick.. If he wanted to perform some hocus pocus he could of done it to himself and left the little girls out of it. They didnt need to know about that bogus kind of crap anyway and to be murdered at the hands of this demented person...makes me sick!

 

[Floh]

As you can see, I edited the title of the thread.

Thank you.

 

[skullaria]

Wow. I can post.

Something is not right here at all.

I have some suspicions. There was an article about how the girls were being sent to church - that is consistent with most neopagan practice- to let the children attend various religious services and decide for themselves.

That seems significant to me. That sounds like someone who was - at least on some level - trying to practice according to mainstream wiccan belief.

But what I have to wonder is if the church, and everyone the girls talked to about this, and telling them stuff like bogus hocus pocus and evil and abomination, yadda yadda, did not encourage some very unhealthy dynamic in the household.

What if - purely speculation - he was practicing his craft, and they started trying to stop him or started telling him it was evil, and it really ticked him off in an all too violent and primal way, and things went downhill very quickly

I get a really bad feeling when I keep seeing all the comments about the mans' unconventional religion, ect. There are a TON of pagan children out there. This is not good for them to hear. Not good at all. Magic can easily be compared to praying - it isn't that big a deal and is no more supernatural than a belief IN prayer. Children have been killed during 'exorcisms' and I have yet to see it presented in the media as Children beaten and strangled during Bizarre Christian Ritual.

The focus on the religion makes it hard to see what the true crime really was here - what the true conflict and motivation was that led up to it. It very well may have had a LOT to do with religion, but not because of it, if that makes sense.

 

[skullaria]

Thanks for letting me in, btw. I appreciate it.

I found this:
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/ap...D=/20080109/NEWS/801090391/1001#gslPageReturn

"He said something went wrong," Marla Harris said. "He said he must've said the wrong thing. After the ritual, he didn't remember anything that happened.

"I said, 'What do you mean?' He said he blacked out."

Triton blames himself for leaving the house, she said.

"He said, 'Maybe I could've fought Dad off. Maybe I could've saved the girls,' " Marla said. "He hasn't said anything about it since."

That tells me somethings.

There was definitely some religious disharmony in the house if the 'spell book' had to be kept on the top shelf. Would someone keep a bible on the top shelf? NO. You keep those on the coffee table or the bedside. Religion gives you comfort, you don't keep books that give you comfort on the top shelf.

Either he was afraid of his own religion - which is crazy - or it was a constant struggle for him to have religious freedom in his own home. Not good either way.

Then, it says that there was a Satanic Bible and he was writing the church of Satan. The Satanic bible is very clear on NOT hurting children. Very. It says one time he asked for a black and white candle - that IS the main ritual setup for a satanic psychodrama. One on each side.

But then there is the statement about "I could have fought dad off..."
What on earth do you think that is all about? What was this guy rebelling against? His dad? Where did THAT come from?

I think he is probably very disturbed and obviously dangerous. It seems to me that religion might have been his source of comfort, and perhaps there was no peace in that in his home for him that day?

Most people do turn to religion *ANY RELIGION* because they NEED it.

 

[Belinda]

Lawrence Douglas Harris

Jury Trial - Guilty
Location: Iowa State Penitentiary
Sentence Date: 02/19/2009

Offense: 2 counts 1st Degree Murder
Sentence: 2 Life Sentences - Consecutive

Projected Release Date: None - No parole

 

[Filly]

Thanks button not enough, Belinda. I remember this.

Wonder whatever happened to the mom? Oh and the RSO? I'll have to look it up.

Thank you again.

 

[JoeFromLB]

Cornerstone World Outreach Church youth group to which the little Suing girls belonged was also attended by five youths who were bludgeoned to death in 2001. God Bless these kids.http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080109/NEWS/801090390

(article no longer available at that link)

I had not heard of this case before and did a little research. There were seven people killed by Adam Moss: the five children, their mother, and another man unrelated to the family. It remains the worst mass murder in Sioux City, Iowa history. The mother was dating Moss at the time. He had a long criminal record that dated back to elementary school! Moss pled guilty and received seven consecutive life terms w/o parole. He has never explained his motives and has refused all requests for interviews.

An article on the case by a woman who knew some of the victims:

http://www.authorsden.com/visit/viewArticle.asp?id=4840

 

[servalcat]

I would like to request that the title of this thread be changed. Nowhere in the article did I see the words "witchcraft" used. No offense Pixies, but it's putting down an entire religion.

He's trying to toot the insanity horn. Ritual. . . I don't think so.

 

[servalcat]

Larry wasn't into witchcraft, he developed a focus on satanism. This is demonstrated in a later mini documentary.
Just like any narcissist/psychopathic PD or other unhinged types attracted to satanism they will have some added quirks in interpreting that to fuel their pathological intentions, motivations and actions. Because he developed a preoccupation with using and talking about spells it caused popular media to superficially presume "witchcraft " was reasonable to state early on. Larry's negativity towards females, especially fertile females that is revealed later on and fascination with an evil masculine figure makes it clear he had nothing to do with or in common with witchcraft.

While the Wicca liker FLMom had cottoned correctly on that media "witchcraft" associations were wrong, it was in some earlier news headlines. It's unreasonable to demand censorship type changes to defend a personal belief system.

You can add your reply explaining why the news, media look to have jumped to conclusions probably prematurely without fuller information and that true Wicca is incompatible with Larry's actions. Websleuths member's and readers can be trusted to be intelligent enough with your adding on a reply explaining why witchcraft associations like your worry Wicca is may be misrepresented by association is sufficient. They may even google Wicca to know more. It's not a big problem. Besides Christians need to endure murderers in headlines with their positive faith forms delivered with the identity of perverted by psychopaths and abusers misusing teachings.

Plus years later, people like myself are able to support your claims having seen an episode of "Evil Lives Here" made later on about Larry Harris. At the same time at the earliest stages the scraps of information with "spells" etc., were not impossible to come from a weirdo who may have started with an eclectic mix of witchcraft, even including Wicca tangled in with other dark sources own inventions in interpretation and motives. It did turn out to be satanism based, absolutely not true Wicca, unlikely to be witchcraft of other break off types.

Yet but so early it wasn't possible to exclude a freaky psycho having been into his perversion of witchcraft.
Trust more that Websleuths readers aren't that ignorant and would have maligned Wicca on such a heading. Just different from the believers of other life/religious systems, still rejecting Wicca as not the correct system to follow, but not presuming it as evil or without some positive values. At most as misleading to gaining a belief of a their better system/faith when following Wicca. Fair, intelligent respectful persons of any faith and belief system or none are able to respectfully not need to maligne other faiths etc. on false facts about what they supposedly uphold and would do.

Any minority so stupid to be prejudiced via an early headline are beyond sensible concern and more likely don't even know about Wicca, just have the worst populists views of witchcraft. Even if potentially true re nutcase dabbling with the most dark distorted mix of whatever they thought is witchcraft adding satanism or another perverted nut's ideas.

While I am personally a Christan, it doesn't preclude my grasp of what those who correctly follow Wicca can appreciate from it's system and still be fair positive persons. Likewise from some other different religions.
That's despite my view of Christianity to be preferable for numerous reasons etc..

 

[servalcat]

See the episode on "Evil Lives Here" Episode 194, does reveal Larry to be a depraved psychopathic person from childhood unlike the rest of his family. He'd do anything evil to get attention.

He developed an very early interest in satanism, having his rituals etc., hurting family etc., making threats. Being such an egotist he'd be a typical picker re what he'd take from it. He fooled his wife in pretending to be nice, great with kids, even got back his own son.

His wife was upset by his belief system that she had a hint of and did ban him from practising it in his home or ever involving her children. Eventually more of his negative sides emerge, but underestimated by his wife and sister living with them. He flipped out once his then 9 year old step daughter hit puberty and his weirder darker aspects had been bubbling on while partly suppressed to those around him. Then he enacted his evil acts.

These are consistent from the monster he was early on without yet discovering satanism as a rebellious add on in ideology.When he ensnared his wife he just happened to evolve the skills of pretending normal to get more of what he desired in life realising he was too old to survive acting out obviously.

Your typical narcissistic psychopath known as the wolf in sheep clothing.

The problem with such with no true internal change of their evil nature means their boredom and frustration in sublimating their desires is experienced like the normal ones are dominating him.It sits very badly for an innate control freak like him.

The need for re addressing his desired power balance, vengeance is eventually going to erupt in the most heinous way. It did with the satisfaction of inflicting eternal pain to his wife and sister. His satanism was mostly a form of aggrandising his basest desires and later an insanity rue.

Some of these partial answers now possible after a lot more
(still partial?) information from his wife and sister on that show.