Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #10

[Poppyflower]

Thank you.
Is there a map anywhere labeled with homes instead of addresses so we can kind of figure out where all these places are? Thanks to anybody that might post one.

I think I did it...let me know if you see the labels

Google Maps

 

[Weeobanite]

So while we are waiting for more info, not sure if Kathlynn Shepherd’s case has been discussed. She and another young girl were walking in Iowa and approached by a man (later identified as MJK). He abducted them by luring them with a lawn mowing job and took them to a hog farm. He tied them up in separate areas, was raping Kathlynn. Meanwhile her friend freed herself and ran for help. LE returned and searched the hog farm. It was awful, them digging in the pigs excrement pits for her remains. MJK fled the scene with KS and tossed her off a bridge. She had been stabbed several times. MJK then drove to another location and killed himself.

Oddly he was ruled out in Lizzie’s and Lyric’s case (what a coincidence, dual victims, Iowa...I was sure he was our guy...)

That's awful! There are some real sickos in this world!

 

[KaaBoom]

This case, the Missy Bevers case, the Delphi murders, three huge unsolved cases. Are the bad guys just getting that much better then the good guys are at solving them?
Can you imagine this case in say...1980 without cell phones, social media and fitbits? There would literally be no place to even start. Not many outside of Brooklyn, Iowa would even be aware.

Cops were a lot smarter in 1980, then they are today. In 1980 the family would have gone on TV and promised to pay whatever ransom needed to get their daughter back safe. Then FBI agents would have flooded into the area by the hundreds. Then they would have waited. When the kidnapper finally called the family, the FBI would been ready and tracing the call. By the time the kidnapper got off the phone, probably inside a phone booth, he would have been looking at a dozen FBI agents pointing guns at him. But if he did get away from the phone booth, they would have gotten him when he came to pick up the ransom money. People didn't get away with this BS in 1980. But of course we didn't have dancing FBI guys in 1980.

 

[pamelado2]

Would any of this be a route Mollie would run if she was heading to her mother's home. TIA

No this is heading out of town

 

[Doghairrules]

I don’t think I’ve ever wanted to be wrong (and have this group of people be wrong with me) more than I want to be wrong right now.

It reminds me of that Sunday afternoon when they found Hannah. We all knew it for hours before our beloved Longo finally announced it.

 

[Seattle1]

We want answers': Father of Mollie Tibbetts says it's not too late for a possible abductor to do the right thing and return her

BROOKLYN, Ia. — Rob Tibbetts was married June 3 in California.

During the celebration, his family took a boat ride, where he and one of his brothers swam to a large rock about 25 feet above the water in a lake, hoping to dive in. Though she screamed at the top of her lungs, as Rob put it, his 20-year-old daughter and best man, Mollie, jumped in right behind them....
'We want answers': Father of Mollie Tibbetts says it's not too late for a possible abductor to do the right thing and return her

Video interview at link above

 

[MurphyScout]

Cristina Corbin (@CristinaCorbin) | Twitter from fox news is reporting location as 13 miles from Brooklyn, Iowa.

Thanks for the map. I appreciate the visual

 

[seeker179]

I'm from New York too, we have such a different mentality than other parts of the U.S. I feel like. When I heard they don't lock their doors I was dumbfounded. & I'd be more nervous to stay in the house Mollie was staying in (alone, surrounded by nothing but cornfields) than I would be anywhere in New York!

I am SO with you on that, as a fellow NYCer. I feel way more vulnerable and creeped-out in rural areas or even suburbs, than I do in the city.
My thoughts are with Mollie and her loved ones as this investigation develops further.

 

[Fascinated1]

Near guernsey?? Where she worked?

 

[MargeGunderson]

It reminds me of that Sunday afternoon when they found Hannah. We all knew it for hours before our beloved Longo finally announced it.

I was just thinking the same thing. I live in Northern Virginia so it was a big deal here with nearly everyone having a UVA connection of some kind. That day everyone just knew. It wasn’t confirmed for a while but we knew.

 

[Marah]

Anyone listening in the parking lot?

 

[SkipperKey3]

Near guernsey?? Where she worked?

No. She worked in Grinnell, which is west of Brooklyn.

 

[Jmoose]

I'm from New York too, we have such a different mentality than other parts of the U.S. I feel like. When I heard they don't lock their doors I was dumbfounded. & I'd be more nervous to stay in the house Mollie was staying in (alone, surrounded by nothing but cornfields) than I would be anywhere in New York!

I live in NY (just outside of NYC), and didn’t lock my doors for years-but I always had dogs that appeared frightening to people who didn’t know them. If someone really wants to come into your house badly enough, they’ll get in, locks or no locks. Of course, it’s better not to make it easy for them-and better still to make sure they don’t want to get in there.

 

[Fascinated1]

delete.

 

[pamelado2]

So this is nerve wracking; cannot begin to fathom how the friends and family feel right now.

How many cases have y'all seen where LE vigorously searched an area once then came back to vigorously search it again? I'm no expert but this tells me something extremely important is around here?

I'm getting the heebies jeebies. Desperately hope it's just the FitBit/phone that leads to an alive Mollie somewhere out there.

This is actually the third time in this area, right?

 

[KaaBoom]

I suggest double checking this conclusion with crimestoppers website. Not sure your conclusion is 100%.

Do you really truly believe that if the kidnapper releases her they will just give him $172,000 and let him go free? That would be unprecedented.

 

[Poppyflower]

Near guernsey?? Where she worked?

No. She worked at Grinnell Regional Medical Center, 210 4th Ave, Grinnell, IA 50112. That is 15 minutes directly east of Mollie's boyfriend and mom's house.

 

[borndem]

More accurate map with exact address of Mollie's boyfriend's house

Google Maps

Map from Mollie's boyfriends house to Lincoln Wildlife (where they're searching) to Wayne Cheney's pig farm and house

Excellent -- a pic is worth 1,000 words. A big Thank You!

Holding my breath on this possibility, and I'm refreshing MSM, but nothing yet -- but I'm in NC, so I'll see it later that a lot of you folks.

 

[MassGuy]

Cops were a lot smarter in 1980, then they are today. In 1980 the family would have gone on TV and promised to pay whatever ransom needed to get their daughter back safe. Then FBI agents would have flooded into the area by the hundreds. Then they would have waited. When the kidnapper finally called the family, the FBI would been ready and tracing the call. By the time the kidnapper got off the phone, probably inside a phone booth, he would have been looking at a dozen FBI agents pointing guns at him. But if he did get away from the phone booth, they would have gotten him when he came to pick up the ransom money. People didn't get away with this BS in 1980. But of course we didn't have dancing FBI guys in 1980.

Police practices have improved greatly since 1980. They are better trained, have better investigative methods, not to mention better technology. Your scenario is a kidnapping for ransom, which occurs a lot less frequently than sexually motivated kidnappings/murders, which this appears to be. Crimes are much easier to solve nowadays, with the technology we have.

 

[thecatmeows]

(O/T, with regards to hog farms, while we are waiting for more info, not sure if Kathlynn Shepherd’s case has been discussed. She and another young girl were walking in Iowa and approached by a man (later identified as MJK). He abducted them by luring them with a lawn mowing job and took them to a hog farm, where he had work ties, iirc. He tied them up in separate areas, was raping Kathlynn. Meanwhile her friend freed herself and ran for help. LE returned and searched the hog farm. It was awful, I will never forget them digging in the pigs excrement pits for her remains. MJK fled the scene with KS and tossed her off a bridge. She had been stabbed several times. MJK then drove to another location and killed himself.

Oddly he was ruled out in Lizzie’s and Lyric’s case (what a coincidence, dual victims, Iowa...I was sure he was our guy...))

I brought this up a few days ago, as the hog farms reminded me of this case. Some were speculating copycat. If this were the case, though, why only take Mollie? I was sure that the guy who killed Kathlynn also killed Lizzie and Lyric, but he was ruled out. Then I thought maybe he had a partner.

 

[Elle*Bee]

Cops were a lot smarter in 1980, then they are today. In 1980 the family would have gone on TV and promised to pay whatever ransom needed to get their daughter back safe. Then FBI agents would have flooded into the area by the hundreds. Then they would have waited. When the kidnapper finally called the family, the FBI would been ready and tracing the call. By the time the kidnapper got off the phone, probably inside a phone booth, he would have been looking at a dozen FBI agents pointing guns at him. But if he did get away from the phone booth, they would have gotten him when he came to pick up the ransom money. People didn't get away with this BS in 1980. But of course we didn't have dancing FBI guys in 1980.

People most definitely did get away with this in 1980. And 1880. And 1780. Need I go on? Evil has existed as long as mankind has. In my opinion.

I am curious about the parents offering ransoms. Do you have any statistics indicating how successful this was in having a loved one returned alive? I only followed true crime cases casually back in the 80’s, so I’m unfamiliar.

 

[zencompass]

i feel like after/during the PC somebody decided to come forward or gave LE a huge tip...

Thanks Arabell,

This is entirely possible. Aside from reward money, just viewing Mollie's family's great suffering on their faces could have prompted someone's conscience. Or perhaps someone's memory was jogged.

Hope.