Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #10

[tokyorose]

My hope is, if they do find her cell phone, there will be some compelling evidence on it much like the Delphi case. Based on everything I have read about Mollie and how much of a fighter she was, I hope she had the presence of mind to discretely video the perp as he was driving perhaps. Access to her phone would be just a huge break in this case.

MOO but I don't think LE has found her phone. Either she didn't have it with her at all or the perp still has it. Back to poor Abbey and Libby...even with all the evidence we don't have justice in that case either.

 

[BRRI]

Missing Iowa Student Is Likely Still Alive, Parents Believe: 'She's Out There. We Feel It'

Not sure if this has been shared, her parents still believe she’s alive. Fingers crossed!

IMO

Mm but in the presser today, her mom kept referring to her in past tense. Saying she feels Mollie’s presence with her. I think what they are told to say vs what they believe may vary

 

[zencompass]

Just getting caught up (after days!)

What do you think has happened?

Is she alive?

Oh I do hope for so, but....

Welcome Scepter!

Hoping she is still alive.

There was a search today. L.E. have not yet made any announcements as to any findings, if any.

There will be a press conference tomorrow morning at 9:30 am (Iowa time)

Second news conference scheduled regarding the Mollie Tibbetts search

 

[PNWgirl10]

MOO but I don't think LE has found her phone. Either she didn't have it with her at all or the perp still has it. Back to poor Abbey and Libby...even with all the evidence we don't have justice in that case either.

That's exactly what I was thinking about yesterday. Even with a photo, voice, and the bodies (not sure about DNA), we have NOTHING after all this time.

 

[Amonet]

This is the real Mollie Tibbetts FB page. Her own posts are now quite a way down it as her friends have been tagging her in their posts about her being missing, so their posts appear on her FB.

Mollie Tibbetts

 

[ChuckMaureen]

That's terrible drone work, OK. I have seen way better drone shots on many YouTube channels. Anyway those are the roads behind the house leading out of town. Everything I have heard seems to indicate that she would have been running into town, not out. So I'm not sure how relevant these roads are.

I imagined the drone flight path as if it were based on location data obtained from GPS tracking, which could explain the seemingly erratic nature of its flight.

Or, the drone used is not equipped with stabilization features.

One thing to note: if LE searched that area it is relevant, no matter what was or what wasn't found.

 

[BRRI]

If they have no evidence, then the person walks, that simple.

No. They likely would keep an eye on the POI and not arrest them until they had ample evidence to do so. Maybe pick them up on something unrelated, but they would wait to arrest on this, just like they did with Emily Glass/Lucas. They wouldn’t risk arresting without any evidence in fear of double jeopardy coming into play.

 

[ACG2x]

I'll preemptively spoil part of tomorrow's LE press conference for you all:

Reporter: "There was a large law enforcement presence yesterday at a pig farm in the area between Guernsey and Deep River. Word from local property owners was that was related to Mollie. What prompted you to search that area?"

Kevin Winker: "As I've said, we are thoroughly reviewing all leads and the investigative team is following-up on those. If there is a tip we feel would help lead us to Mollie, our investigators will aggressively pursue that."

You can probably just put this answer in for 90% of questions that will be asked though.

 

[Gussified]

And this is IMO the reason for the long pause in the PC when asked if the public was in danger and then the very deliberate "we can't tell you why Mollie is missing so that is a difficult question to answer". If Mollie knows the suspect and this was personal and not random at all, then you assume no the public is not in danger because they are not going to do anything to anyone else. But that said without knowing the reason she is missing, they also don't know that something else wouldn't drive this person to bring harm to anyone else going forward and with a criminal amongst them, then yes the public would be in danger, hence their answer.

There’s also the possibility that they have a POI under heavy surveillance, so no danger to the public.

 

[Marie224]

Mm but in the presser today, her mom kept referring to her in past tense. Saying she feels Mollie’s presence with her. I think what they are told to say vs what they believe may vary

I have been involved in a case where someone was missing for a week then was found deceased. When I was first told about it and within the first few milliseconds, I knew in my heart she was dead. Then, I was in denial and wanted to hope for the best, so we continued to look for her until she was found.

So, her Mom might not realize it now, but whatever the outcome is, she knew it from the start, just like I did.

 

[ChuckMaureen]

I'm curious what FBI perp profiler(s) came up with regarding possible scenarios for this case. Could their result be the reason why the intensified push of a "reward". Such a tactic could flush out a perp, regardless of the state of MT.

 

[Wndrlst]

I would just emphasize that being very common to small town, farming culture. In other metro areas in Iowa most of us have things locked up tighter than Fort Knox and use doorbell/security cams, firearms, etc.

Metro areas of Iowa, yes. I always think my sister is crazy when she locks everything up so tightly and checks doors 5 times before bed. (Not so much anymore though!!!) I am small town Iowa-- my whole life-- population 4500. Up until recently, I slept with all doors unlocked, went to work with all doors unlocked, people would walk in whenever they wanted.. when you know everybody in the town and trust everybody around you, you just ASSUME you're safe.

For instance, my sister stopped by my house to borrow a shirt a couple weeks back.. I told her to go ahead and let herself in and get it. I got a text from the next door neighbor asking if someone was suppose to be at my house... at 6 when I got home the older gentleman across the street came over and told me someone had been at my house. and at 730 another neighbor asked if I knew my sister had stopped by earlier... 2 days later, I got out of the shower and 3 of the neighbor kids were in my living room playing with my cats. It's just a small town thing when you think you know/trust everybody. We are all sadly learning around here (small town Iowa) that no neighborhood is safe.

 

[MRPB]

Hm so maybe a young person or people drove by looking to pick up a girl? Or maybe not premeditated at all. Just trying to think what the intention for being near her house or jogging path could have been, if a stranger did this

Following this case for two weeks and talking to fellow sleuthers, I believe Mollie was acquainted with the person(s) who took her

 

[Scepter]

Welcome Scepter!

Hoping she is still alive.

There was a search today. L.E. have not yet made any announcements as to any findings, if any.

There will be a press conference tomorrow morning at 9:30 am (Iowa time)

Second news conference scheduled regarding the Mollie Tibbetts search

Thank you zencompass

 

[bestill]

Inside Edition -

 

[MargeGunderson]

There’s also the possibility that they have a POI under heavy surveillance, so no danger to the public.

I don't doubt that this could be true because I know LE does this kind of thing. What I wonder though is whether they could pull something like that off in such a small town without there being some rumor or whisper about it. I've never lived in a small town but my parents have and they always talk about everyone knew everything and told everything. My mom had a friend who asked to come over for dinner one night because she knew they were having something she liked because her mom saw my grandmother buying it at the store. So could LE blend in enough to heavily surveil someone? Maybe the local LE. But FBI stick out like sore thumbs even in areas where it's common to see them.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I want to thank our sleuthers who are keeping such a comprehensive list of media articles in the Mollie Tibbetts disappearance case...

My computer is acting up...

So I have fallen behind in following the case...

But once I was able to get back on the computer I went straight to the Media Thread and got caught up there first...

SOOO helpful...

and helps to avoid repetitive questions for updates in the discussion threads!

:thankyou:

 

[MassGuy]

I don't doubt that this could be true because I know LE does this kind of thing. What I wonder though is whether they could pull something like that off in such a small town without there being some rumor or whisper about it. I've never lived in a small town but my parents have and they always talk about everyone knew everything and told everything. My mom had a friend who asked to come over for dinner one night because she knew they were having something she liked because her mom saw my grandmother buying it at the store. So could LE blend in enough to heavily surveil someone? Maybe the local LE. But FBI stick out like sore thumbs even in areas where it's common to see them.

Good point. They could simply have put a gps tracker on the vehicle of a POI, and not conducted any close surveillance that would give them away.

 

[Momma2cam]

No. They likely would keep an eye on the POI and not arrest them until they had ample evidence to do so. Maybe pick them up on something unrelated, but they would wait to arrest on this, just like they did with Emily Glass/Lucas. They wouldn’t risk arresting without any evidence in fear of double jeopardy coming into play.

Agree mostly. Double jeopardy wouldn't come into play unless they went to trial. First they even have to get a warrant to issue charges and that also requires ample evidence. When under surveillance, especially if they believe it was targeted crime, it would be foolish to make an arrest if they worry about the prosecutor approving the warrant request.

I'm going to start scrolling and rolling as it relates to this, though. Not sure how clearer it could be! Moo.

 

[liz b.]

Mollie seems on the surface to have led a seamless life. No issues, no enemies. The only thing that stands out for me is : the 3 hour phone call with her dad. And his very swift presence when she disappeared. I know he said that things seemed "fine " with her during that phone call. Yet, I wonder if someone had been bothering her ? Someone had given her the creeps ? perhaps some unwanted attention ? And she hashed it out with her dad on the last phone call they shared ? Did LE tell him not to discuss the actual details of that phone call ?