Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #10

[ptandj]

One thing to note: if LE searched that area it is relevant, no matter what was or what wasn't found.

RSBM. This (in the drone footage) isn't where any of the reported searches have been. It's the opposite direction from everywhere it's reported she was or may have been or they've done searches that have been in the media.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I stopped following here but couldn't stop thinking about our girl Mollie so... now I'm back.

 

[MassGuy]

Mollie seems on the surface to have led a seamless life. No issues, no enemies. The only thing that stands out for me is : the 3 hour phone call with her dad. And his very swift presence when she disappeared. I know he said that things seemed "fine " with her during that phone call. Yet, I wonder if someone had been bothering her ? Someone had given her the creeps ? perhaps some unwanted attention ? And she hashed it out with her dad on the last phone call they shared ? Did LE tell him not to discuss the actual details of that phone call ?

I think it’s likely that LE has told the family to keep certain things private. By now, they certainly have subpoenaed Facebook and other social media providers which would allow them to see who she has been in contact with, and if someone was harassing her.

 

[MargeGunderson]

Good point. They could simply have put a gps tracker on the vehicle of a POI, and not conducted any close surveillance that would give them away.

That could definitely be the case. I've only see that in movies and on TV but I know they do it in real life too. Any idea what the requirement is warrant-wise to do something like that?

 

[ptandj]

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[Kiks1981]

There’s something that stands out to me...and I think is very eye opening yet nobody (not that I’ve seen) as mentioned... so this is entering week 3...so I believe the first mention of a reward (of $1,000) was on the 28-29. The 30th it was doubled...then within days skirockets to approx. $175,000. This screams at me that she’s still alive and that amount grew so rapidly for a reason...because after all why wasn’t this set up from the get go?!? It’s screams at me as a motivator for someone with a conscience to divulge some information...IMO...and it is stated that it will only be given if she’s returned alive and safe. I believe in my opinion that if they had any indicators that she’s no longer alive this wouldn’t make sense what so ever and a waste of time. I could be totally wrong however I truly believe that she still out there alive and have a feeling once that reward reaches $200K aka within the next 24 hours she’ll be returned in some way. Maybe that’s the positive person in me I just think they are playing this so tightly they know a lot more than they’re obviously saying hence why it was probably mentioned to setup for a reward... but like I said that’s just my opinion.

 

[MassGuy]

That could definitely be the case. I've only see that in movies and on TV but I know they do it in real life too. Any idea what the requirement is warrant-wise to do something like that?

They would certainly need probable cause. A judge would have to authorize it.

 

[zencompass]

Just getting caught up (after days!)

What do you think has happened?

Is she alive?

Oh I do hope for so, but....

Here is an article concerning the press interview which Mollie's family gave earlier today along with a spokesman for CrimeStoppers.

Two main points I gleaned from this:

- The reward is now is $172,000

- It was emphasized many times during this that the identity of the caller will be protected. They are looking for anonymous tips.

'We want answers': Father of Mollie Tibbetts says it's not too late for a possible abductor to do the right thing and return her

 

[Falcon500]

That could definitely be the case. I've only see that in movies and on TV but I know they do it in real life too. Any idea what the requirement is warrant-wise to do something like that?

Probable cause that the usual operator of that car has committed a crime.

 

[MassGuy]

There’s something that stands out to me...and I think is very eye opening yet nobody (not that I’ve seen) as mentioned... so this is entering week 3...so I believe the first mention of a reward (of $1,000) was on the 28-29. The 30th it was doubled...then within days skirockets to approx. $175,000. This screams at me that she’s still alive and that amount grew so rapidly for a reason...because after all why wasn’t this set up from the get go?!? It’s screams at me as a motivator for someone with a conscience to divulge some information...IMO...and it is stated that it will only be given if she’s returned alive and safe. I believe in my opinion that if they had any indicators that she’s no longer alive this wouldn’t make sense what so ever and a waste of time. I could be totally wrong however I truly believe that she still out there alive and have a feeling once that reward reaches $200K aka within the next 24 hours she’ll be returned in some way. Maybe that’s the positive person in me I just think they are playing this so tightly they know a lot more than they’re obviously saying hence why it was probably mentioned to setup for a reward... but like I said that’s just my opinion.

The problem with a reward is that it can generate a lot of worthless leads. Perhaps they wanted to let some time pass before offering (a substantial) one for this reason. By now, two weeks later, it’s time to shake the trees I guess.

 

[Inthedetails]

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Thank you for the reminder. What a pal!

 

[KaaBoom]

No. They likely would keep an eye on the POI and not arrest them until they had ample evidence to do so. Maybe pick them up on something unrelated, but they would wait to arrest on this, just like they did with Emily Glass/Lucas. They wouldn’t risk arresting without any evidence in fear of double jeopardy coming into play.

I don't see how that case is all relevant to this one. That was a child mudered by a stepmother. It's apples and oranges.

 

[BRRI]

Following this case for two weeks and talking to fellow sleuthers, I believe Mollie was acquainted with the person(s) who took her

Agree, as that’s usually the case, but just trying to figure out any other possibilities for strangers

 

[adot0902]

I have a feeling this isn’t the first search. Everyone I saw at the press conference was sunburnt on top of sunburnt. I think this is the first search that was publicized.

 

[BRRI]

I don't see how that case is all relevant to this one. That was a child mudered by a stepmother. It's apples and oranges.

What? I’m not talking about the relevance between cases. I’m talking about the relevance between arrest procedures. Everyone knew Emily was a POI/suspect yet they didn’t arrest her because they didn’t have enough evidence at that point to properly charge her with his murder. They won’t arrest prematurely, even if there is a strong suspicion of what happened. They won’t risk a conviction loss.

 

[ptandj]

Thank you for the reminder. What a pal!

Haha I hate to miss stuff so I don't use it as much as I should but there comes a time... It does still tell you when there's ignored content so you can decide if you want to see it. I am learning at minimum it's better to take a short break rather than find myself get into a back and forth or find my blood pressure rising over particular posts... As I've said before, I get this stuff wrong all the time but I'm trying to do better!

 

[Seattle1]

There’s also the possibility that they have a POI under heavy surveillance, so no danger to the public.

Thinking about surveillance and perp re-visiting the scene -- maybe that prompted search this morning....

 

[Cardinal47]

Mollie seems on the surface to have led a seamless life. No issues, no enemies. The only thing that stands out for me is : the 3 hour phone call with her dad. And his very swift presence when she disappeared. I know he said that things seemed "fine " with her during that phone call. Yet, I wonder if someone had been bothering her ? Someone had given her the creeps ? perhaps some unwanted attention ? And she hashed it out with her dad on the last phone call they shared ? Did LE tell him not to discuss the actual details of that phone call ?

This has been my thought too. The three hour phone call seems to be in access. I talk to my daughter every Friday evening. One hour is about our limit to cover just about everything. Young people text now. Back and forth quickly. A 2 -3 hour phone call with one's father is one long conversation.
Also something else. I use past tense all the time on the living. She was happy. She wanted to go out to lunch. She had the cutest smile. That surely doesn't mean they are gone or missing. It just means they aren't presently standing in front of me.

 

[KaaBoom]

What? I’m not talking about the relevance between cases. I’m talking about the relevance between arrest procedures. Everyone knew Emily was a POI/suspect yet they didn’t arrest her because they didn’t have enough evidence at that point to properly charge her with his murder. They won’t arrest prematurely, even if there is a strong suspicion of what happened. They won’t risk a conviction loss.

I believe the Areo Castrol case is more relevant. If they solve this case, I believe it will end similar to that.

 

[Fascinated1]

Mollie seems on the surface to have led a seamless life. No issues, no enemies. The only thing that stands out for me is : the 3 hour phone call with her dad. And his very swift presence when she disappeared. I know he said that things seemed "fine " with her during that phone call. Yet, I wonder if someone had been bothering her ? Someone had given her the creeps ? perhaps some unwanted attention ? And she hashed it out with her dad on the last phone call they shared ? Did LE tell him not to discuss the actual details of that phone call ?

I have to say—and someone also pointed it out earlier-that I think her living arrangements for the summer were also a bit off. She was close to her moms house where -I’m guessing-all of her stuff was. So why not stay there and stay over at BF occasionally? She’s only a year out of high school I think. Especially if she is working and needs to share a car. It sounded like she was living at the BF (from multiple sources) rather than with mom. And there was the dinner thing...not sure if there is stress in that home environment. It’s very easy to over analyze when there’s no new info.