Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #10

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  • #821
Maybe authorities put WHO13 up to asking WC questions on camera to see how he responded. He may have said after 2 hours of questioning that he was done and that he would lawyer up.<mod changed name to initials>

Has this guy been formally charged?

I mean, he might be an oddball with a sordid past, but is it fair that we keep bringing his name into this?
 
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  • #822
Polygraphs are junk science. The Penn & Teller BS episode on them was illuminating.
They are an investigative tool that can be useful.
 
  • #823
Hey Everyone,
Your theories are being looked at and they are getting noticed. Hopefully, someone one Websleuths can find something that leads to Mollie. You never know.
Thank you all for your dedication to Mollie. You restore my faith in humanity.
Tricia

I’m impressed with the caliber of the group’s members here in Mollie’s case. I’m seeing some old schoolers who have a lot of experience, as well as members whose opinions I greatly respect and with whom I/we have shared various discussions in other cases, giving us a very broad scope of reference, imo.

Welcome all new members! Nice to see some members I haven’t seen in a while, though sorry it is under these circumstances.
 
  • #824
Maybe authorities put WHO13 up to asking WC questions on camera to see how he responded. He may have said after 2 hours of questioning that he was done and that he would lawyer up.<mod changed name to initials>
That was an embarrassing interview from a journalistic point of view. Poorly worded questions, and a lack of follow up. Cheney exhibited a huge number of pacifying gestures during the interview. Definitely nervous, although he may just be uncomfortable in front of cameras.
 
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If they are taking DNA samples, that means they have something to compare it to, which would be tremendously encouraging to the progress of the investigation. But yeah, refusal to take a DNA test or polygraph can certainly encourage LE to take a closer look. Although some people are just naturally reluctant to volunteer either, despite not being involved.

Right, they don't need something to compare it to...just use the question itself and the answer from the person for guidance and information. Some people will say no bc big brother but also they'll have air tight alibis...hopefully lol.
 
  • #827
When I first moved to my current apartment I noticed my neighbor entertained men at night. I never really felt uncomfortable leaving my blinds open till one night one of them came to my window and scared me to death. A week later another came to my door asking for a girl and seemed very confused when I kept telling him she didnt live here. Since then I close my blinds and always lock my door and never open for anyone I dont know. Recently I realized the 2nd man was looking for my "entertaining" neighbor once I found out her name and we have the same apt number but different unit. Now I am an adult but I made a mistake the first time by opening the door. I wont do that again like I said, but could this have happened to M.T.? Someone thinking they are at the right house, its dark, they cant see an address and M.T. opens the door cause she thinks its safe. Maybe she went out to point to where the correct address was or the perp coerced her or the perp planned it this way, pretending to be lost?
 
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I'd be very surprised if the reward has any affect, but I hope you are right about the kidnapper's conscience. I think that has a better chance of working then the reward. It worked in the Sherri Papini case. I hope it does happen, or I hope that she can somehow escape.
I think one's conscience rarely comes into play in these cases and imo didn't in the SP case either. Money might work for someone who knows or has suspicions tho. Imo the reward $ offered was the crux of SP being released. I'm still suspicious of that case, all the players, who knew what and when, and intent.
This case doesn't strike me as suspicious tho. Well, what I mean is it doesn't strike me like a con job. This is the real deal. Mollie is missing and we don't know what happened.
 
  • #830
I'd be very surprised if the reward has any affect, but I hope you are right about the kidnapper's conscience. I think that has a better chance of working then the reward. It worked in the Sherri Papini case. I hope it does happen, or I hope that she can somehow escape.
Rewards do help as we’ve seen in cases recently. There was the recent Lily Christopherson abduction in Tacoma Washington where she was being used in Sex-Trafficking. A person with a sharp eye recognized her from her “Missing” posters. I believe a sizable reward in a small mid-west farming community as Brooklyn, will have all eyes open and hands and feet on deck.
 
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This isn't the same spot as earlier, is it? Weren't the on 21 before?

Jerad Giottonini on Twitter
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"@WHOhd @MikeBorland13HD found K9 and FBI unit combing the area looking for Mollie Tibbetts."
 
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No I don't. I think he's just a nervous guy.
 
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Additionally from the above link (sorry if posted):

“His location to the hog farms along with Iowa court documents that show C has entered guilty pleas on two occasions for stalking, once in Poweshiek County in 2009 and again in Marion County just four years ago. DCI officials could not confirm or deny the questioning of C or whether or not he has been cleared as a suspect. C says he does not know the Tibbetts family and hopes Mollie is found soon.“
 
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Has this guy been formally charged?

I mean, he might be an oddball with a sordid past, but is it fair that we keep bringing his name into this?
No, so far as what I've read in MSM he has not been charged or been named as POI or suspect by LE.
 
  • #836
This has not been my experience at all as a professional who works for an agency that works very closely with LE. The majority of the time, there is an alleged perp and no arrest until after quite a ways into the investigative process. In my experience, LE do not arrest unless/until they are very confident they will obtain the necessary evidence over the next 48 hrs. JMO.

ETA: reasoning has been explained to me that once the POI is released bc they fail to obtain necessary evidence and a warrant in the timeframe, the case is further jeopardized. Even when many times it is the correct POI. This could certainly vary by crime since my area of expertise is child abuse and child witness to homicide or violent crime.
There is a cold case local to me that has a prime suspect and has for a number of years now. They’ve named him and have even perhaps tied him to other crimes but they don’t have enough to arrest and convict him. As I’ve heard said before, LE usually only gets one bite of the apple.
 
  • #837
It seems LE is confident on re-searching area(s) where certain information and/or data had originally led them. Whether it's due to certain device(s) communication having stopped when located in that area or whether it's information having come from an individual is ... speculation. ;-)
 
  • #838
No I don't. I think he's just a nervous guy.
Yes. There are a couple of problems mentioned in relationship to news interviews, people's body language, and polygraphs. Emotions are strange and funny things, and it is easy for people to say "if they're innocent they should be fine," but the fact they're getting questioned creates its own emotional pressures. People often display those internal pressures, and the visible display of discomfort can create the false or wrongful impression of guilt.
 
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Rewards do help as we’ve seen in cases recently. There was the recent Lily Christopherson abduction in Tacoma Washington where she was being used in Sex-Trafficking. A person with a sharp eye recognized her from her “Missing” posters. I believe a sizable reward in a small mid-west farming community as Brooklyn, will have all eyes open and hands and feet on deck.

Yes, rewards work very well to get the public to look for people who are on the move. That is how Tad Commings got caught. But I would be very surprised if the kidnapper has Mollie out in public.
 
  • #840
My father is a retired police officer, so I’ve heard warnings my whole life and I’ve always been aware of my surroundings, however in the town where I grew up, everyone knew everyone and most were related to one-another. I would have been extremely comfortable accepting a ride from a nice man that was a friend of the family.

I’d be looking at someone in late forties to early fifties. The reason is because I think for a young girl, a father-figure is much less threatening than a younger man when it comes to accepting a ride. Someone could appear so kind and have obsessive uncontrollable feelings that an unsuspecting girl wouldn’t even notice. JMO

This post from Blissful12 is very possible, in my opinion.

If Mollie locked the dogs up and left the house to walk to her mother's house to get the car before work that morning, I think this is a strong possibility.

It would explain the fact that the dogs were in the basement, her cell phone was with her and there was no evidence of a scuffle in the residence.

Mollie could have left very early that morning - perhaps to have breakfast with her Mom before she took the car to work.

Could Mollie have entered a vehicle voluntarily or involuntarily before her brother contacted her that morning to see whether she needed the car?

It is possible that this was a crime of opportunity.

I've had other theories but this one seems to be the one that makes sense to me.

JMO




 
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