Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #10

[taximama24]

Red shirt pic with logo
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachments/red-t-shirt-jpg.140199/

Where is this pic from? Is that Mollie with her head on a co-workers shoulder or just a general reference of the shirt?

 

[Cardinal47]

So I was thinking. When they have somebody they suspect but don't have much evidence don't they usually arrest them on some minor charge? Anybody recently arrested in Brooklyn?

 

[ChuckMaureen]

Mollie Tibbetts: Fox News takes a look at the location where the missing girl is last thought to have been

The article at the link includes drone video... it appears to cover the path MT may have taken that evening. The creepy part is near the end when the drone suddenly reverses direction and retreats from the area at increased speed, and in the dirt below deep-rut tire tracks can be seen, as if the wheels were spinning furiously until they finally caught traction. The tracks are in dried mud. It is unknown for how long those rut tracks were there.

As I commented above: creepy.

I also want to note: it was raining the evening/morning MT went missing... which could explain the 'deep-rut tracks in now-dried mud'.

 

[Momma2cam]

Yes, horrible. But why would perps throw it.

To get rid of evidence, maybe, on the way out of town? Or, to throw LE off. JMO.

 

[Beth11311]

Dear Wndrlst,

Thank you for sharing your valuable insight with us. I certainly was not aware of shooting shacks and deer stands.

Much appreciated!

That is a great thought about the perpetrator watching where the searches have been completed.

Something that comes to mind...with absolutely no insight as to who took her, it really comes to down to (if she was abducted - and sadly I believe she was) what kind of perp we are dealing with, and just how smart they are. Of course there are many kinds of criminals, but I feel that often we have two very broad categories, types: the kind who are cunning, smart, following the investigation and may have insight into law/LEO procedures etc., and the sort that is rather quite inept and gets, well....lucky. Not to say those who are not in the cunning BTK category wouldn’t follow the investigation closely as well, but they may not have, for lack of a better term, the deductive reasoning to think “hey, I should put this shirt somewhere that has already been searched” or near to a person that would be a reasonable patsy (in regards to the red shirt. If they have placed it, we can narrow this down more to someone more local...which I think is quite feasible. I haven’t been able to come to a conclusion on the sort we are dealing with due to the real lack of evidence we are aware of, but I’m very curious about what an FBI profiler would say at this point. And I think that could really play into what is/has/will be found...if anything.

ETA: deductive reasoning, not seductive. Autocorrect, you trollop.

 

[K.jill]

If the shirt was Mollie’s it could have been dropped there to throw investigators off. It it was found in a location where it could easily have been thrown out of a car window my guess would be that she would be Found in an opposite direction.

 

[Normancita]

Yes, horrible. But why would perps throw it.

Who says the perp put it there?

Think about wild animals!

 

[Scepter]

Something that comes to mind...with absolutely no insight as to who took her, it really comes to down to (if she was abducted - and sadly I believe she was) what kind of perp we are dealing with, and just how smart they are. Of course there are many kinds of criminals, but I feel that often we have two very broad categories, types: the kind who is cunning, smart, following the investigation and may have insight into law/LEO procedures etc., and the sort that is rather quite inept and gets, well....lucky.

I don't think really you need either, quite, only to know the area so well you hide the body effectively?

 

[jkloc420]

If the shirt was Mollie’s it could have been dropped there to throw investigators off. It it was found in a location where it could easily have been thrown out of a car window my guess would be that she would be Found in an opposite direction.

if somebody is going to feed somebody to pigs, surely their not going to leave a red shirt laying around

 

[cluciano63]

Perps often have pay as you go phones so if LE does not have the #, they might track their car if they had a suspect.

But searching fields, and ponds? Does not sound promising.

 

[Scepter]

Who says the perp put it there?

Think about wild animals!

Wild animals put it there, yes, a possible.

 

[Dee10]

Mollie Tibbetts search team scours land near Iowa pig farm

A pig farmer said FBI investigators arrived at his home last Friday and asked to search it without a warrant. They were there for nearly two hours, taking photos of the interior of the home and also searching his garage.

He said investigators then asked to interview him off the property and kept his cell phone overnight to check his records. The farmer has not been charged with a crime and said he “has nothing to hide.”

 

[Normancita]

People, quit being so literal about the shirt placement.

Not everything is intentional.

I’m from Nebraska, so not sure about Iowa, but in my parts, a coyote or an animal could have drug it there.

It is a wild nature preserve after all!

 

[pamelado2]

I'm saying the drone went West of the house but according to MSM she was heading East.

MT had favorite routes, at least three in all IIRC, and not all passed houses along the entire routes.

 

[cluciano63]

Could an animal have moved the shirt to where found, I wonder? Or was it close to road?

 

[perfectingpink]

Yes, horrible. But why would perps throw it.

It could be that it was not thrown but dragged out by animals.

 

[Deleted member 227458]

A Couple of Random Questions:

• Have investigators disclosed whether or not any of MT's "last seen wearing" articles of clothing, e.g., running shoes, black shorts, pink "sports top," etc., were found in the the bf's brother's house? IMO, if that running outfit is missing, it would indicate that she disappeared that evening vs. the next morning.
• How quickly was LE able to do a search of bf's house? I'm curious to know whether or not LE had the opportunity to dust the handle of the basement door where the dogs had been confined before the homeowners (or anyone else) entered and contaminated/compromised a potential crime scene.

 

[Deleted member 227458]

Deleted duplicate post.

 

[Beth11311]

I don't think really you need either, quite, only to know the area so well you hide the body effectively?

To know how to even hide or care to hide a body effectively takes some brains, I think. If this was someone unknown to her and not local, I would also rather expect them to care less about hiding the body (unless they know enough about DNA evidence to know that a body found is not good for them, regardless) or to give them time to leave the area. Remember, hiding a body involves risk, someone driving by and spotting an abandoned car, someone spotting a suspicious person emerging from an area one wouldn’t normally expect to see people out, etc. Granted it’s a small town and I don’t know the prevalence of drivers out on the roads, but every moment a perp spends with the abductee or hiding the body/evidence, is risk. Risk vs reward, in their case.

 

[YiYa]

It could be that it was not thrown but dragged out by animals.

It was also super windy the night of the 19th and there were tornadoes nearby. The trick is coordinating it with the Fitbit data, I think.