Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #15

Status
Not open for further replies.
  • #601
The percentages say she was abducted while jogging, and it’s perfectly consistent with that type of abduction/attack.

To me, if she ran off on her own, then she confides in someone, now that someone will trust another to be silent, and that never works.

And, it’s my understanding this theory was developed because there was no evidence of disappearance, however, in reality, there is all the evidence you would find in a person taken while jogging.

The lack of phone activity, bank activity, communication activity, habitual activity, obligation activity - IS evidence. And the abrupt ending to those activities.

This is my opinion.


.
 
  • #602
My first post, so hopefully I'm not posting something I shouldn't. I have been a lurker since the day after Lindsey Baum disappeared. I didn't feel the need to post on that thread, as I shared the same suspicions as many other people.

The rules of what can and can't be posted seem a little different on this thread as compared to Lindsey's thread. That being said....

I'm leaning towards (please delete if I'm posting something I shouldn't) thinking that whoever was supposed to pick MT up for work in the morning has her. There have been no statements as far as I can see from LE or the media that *insert name* arrived at the boyfriend's home to pick up MT and she was missing. Certainly one of her coworkers or brother had to have knowledge of how she was getting to work in the morning. Why is LE keeping this information close to the chest regardless of whether she disappeared the night before or that morning?
Great first post!! This continues to be one of my top theories.
 
  • #603
Body language can be very telling, interviews, press conferences etc; not sure that's been discussed previously;

Folded arms - that they're closed for argument

Eye rub - the brain's attempt to block out the deceit

Scratch neck - this gesture is a signal of doubt or uncertainty

Scratching head - it signals the emotional state of confusion

Scratch face - as to wanting to believe own lies

There are more, these are just a few.
 
  • #604
  • #605
Hi all, Just throwing out my 2 cents since there haven't been any new developments.
I took a close look at the map which shows the path from her BF's house to her mom's.
All this time people keep mentioning what a rural town it is, but I live in a rural farming town where there is significant acreage between each house and country roads with farmland running up to the edge. I've been picturing this and thinking sure, anyone could drive along and grab her without being seen.
In looking at the map of Brooklyn, it may be rural, but it looks like the areas she would have been running were along streets with houses and a school, churches, and stores, etc. It does not look like rural country roads to me, just small town roads. Does anyone know her running route? Most of the blocks have at least 3-4 houses on them, which also surprises me that more sightings of her on that day have not been mentioned. This also leads me to think maybe she did get in a car with someone she knows rather than being forced, but I do not think this was a preplanned disappearance on her part.
<snip>

According to Google Maps / Google Earth, there is also a small walkway that leads from the end of Clay St up to close to where her Mom lived. I've not heard anybody mention that walkway, but it would be ideal for her jogging route if her final destination was her mom's, as I feel it was. The walkway looks to be open and visible to the nearby houses. It would be good for avoiding the main street that doesn't have a sidewalk (Jackson St.) up by the HS. I haven't heard anybody mention this walkway, but I must assume at this point that the walkway and the fields and yards nearby have been searched.

At this point, I just can't tell whether she knew the person/people she came in to contact with or not. There's just nothing to go on.
 
  • #606
The PC was cancelled and around the same time we hear an interview with her dad. The statement he made regarding Mollie getting into a car voluntarily and someone misinterpreting the situation is the most specific theory I’ve heard from anyone “in the know” yet, including law enforcement. I just can’t wrap my head around such a statement coming from a place of hope. It is too specific. I think dad relaying such a theory through an interview is promising.

Of course, I realize that I may be coming from a place of hope by drawing a positive conclusion.
 
  • #607
Still sticking with the thought that she met someone on an app like Bumble and they catfished her. This person lead her to believe they were someone totally different and startled her in the middle of the night. If they did in fact show up in the middle of the night they may have text saying they were there so she put the dogs downstairs so they wouldn’t bark or jump on said person. She may even have left her glasses or contacts. When I’m startled mid sleep I do not put my glasses or contacts on.

When she realized they weren’t who she originally thought it was too late. They probably had a knife or gun or something and took her. I’m willing to bet the person is mentally ill like most people who catfish are and believe Mollie truly cares for them even though they aren’t who she originally thought.

If this is the case hopefully this person cares enough about her to not harm her.
 
  • #608
Wasn’t it Mollie’s dad who also said in his plea ‘come home it will be ok’?
 
  • #609
Friday is a long way off... I'm trying to remember how often pressers were scheduled during the search for Hannah Graham. Even a simple "nothing new, we ask that you take a look around your property and see if anything seems disturbed.Please continue to send in tips".
I'm not sure how I feel about the Dad's statement. I do believe she could have been picked up-while running? I'm stuck on the bf opening the Snapchat at 10pm. I would think there would have been texting back and forth all evening between the two. Maybe that's the tl-she really was doing hw and texting and LE has that info, and then at around 10 pm went radio silent.
 
  • #610
Body language can be very telling, interviews, press conferences etc; not sure that's been discussed previously;

Folded arms - that they're closed for argument

Eye rub - the brain's attempt to block out the deceit

Scratch neck - this gesture is a signal of doubt or uncertainty

Scratching head - it signals the emotional state of confusion

Scratch face - as to wanting to believe own lies

There are more, these are just a few.


Did you single out anybody in the pressers that was doing these? Interesting...
 
  • #611
If the person who has her is reading this—and I keep seeing a lot of this info on other sites so it would not surprise me—and she is still alive—those who are way more experienced than I am—what should he do? How can he let her go? And “he cant” is not the right answer. Had anyone dealt with this before? This may be a dumb question to ask but maybe some of you can help.
 
  • #612
I am sure the police know but we don't know if in fact the text were typed by her. we know the mother got text from her phone. we also don't know where she in fact was when texting.
 
  • #613
On the police log posted on 6/17/18 it lists a response to a burglary call just up the road from the BF house on W Des Moines on 6/16/18. Does anybody know what the outcome of that call was? Was it resolved?

It was drawn to my attention that I typed the dates wrong in my post. I meant to write:
"On the police log posted on 7/17/18 it lists a response to a burglary call just up the road from the BF house on W Des Moines on 7/16/18. Does anybody know what the outcome of that call was? Was it resolved?"
 
  • #614
  • #615
Based on all that we know I personally don’t feel at this time that Mollie, if indeed dead, will be found outside currently. I just don’t see the individual dumping her this quickly. I’m in the minority but I think Mollie could potentially be alive. When the FBI said something along the line of “we need to get to know Mollie”, I wondered if this meant they were trying to gauge how- if she were to be kept alive (at least at first)- Mollie might respond to an abductor. Perhaps they questioned the way in which she might respond, rebel, manipulate, confront, or humanize her abductor. Her responses could dictate her treatment possibly and maybe also her livelihood. She studies psychology. She have been so far exposed to certain information that might make her more adept in reading and then attempting to placate her abductors mind. Maybe they want to know if she would put up a fight? If so, this would be information that the FBI might see as possibly detrimental to her safe recovery. I really have no basis for this speculation, but I thought it might make sense. I don’t feel the individual who took her- whether known to her or not- simply did so only to kill her. I think he wanted her, for his own sicko reasons, and hopefully up until now has had a purpose for her that justifies to him why he wouldn’t let her go or murder her. The issue with this line of thought two fold. One being that there is the possibility for whatever reason that the abductor will change his mind- in knowing Mollie maybe they hope to anticipate her behavior and hope she will use whatever she feels is appropriate to remain alive, even if this means pacifying her abductor. I also worry that if she is being held about how she will be found. I worry she will be hidden. I worry the suspect hasn’t been looked at yet and might not even come into LE radar for several years. That is so scary. Her family mentioned her compassion and empathy. For some reason I keep thinking- or at least hoping, and it’s incredibly naive of me- that if there could be any chance of survival that it could be partially due to the specific nature of the abductor’s own personality in conjunction with Mollie’s own knowledge in psychology as well as her strong spirits. Such monsters as Mollie’s abductor can’t be tamed. But I still have hope that he wants to keep her. He wants her for himself and that this deranged, disgusting desire may ultimately be what keeps her alive. Far fetched I know. Is Mollie is out there is hope she can remain strong and know her family loves her and are not going to stop looking!
I had to quote the entire post because if you are right in your conjecture then you are right about what the family/LE is trying to do.
Not to play a broken record again, but I realize you're likely more than familiar with Holly Bobo's case. (I would think, but I don't know why )
Anyhow this is precisely what we all were trying to do for a very long time. We wanted whoever had her to get to know her. We searched every abandoned barn, cabin etc along the TN river and elsewhere for where his "lair" could be.
For those yet unfamiliar I will just leave the Wikipedialink: Murder of Holly Bobo - Wikipedia
 
  • #616
  • #617
Sorry one more—that does explain why her dad was so intently scanning the crowd at the PC.
 
  • #618
  • #619
Check the Poweshiek Sheriff's office fb page. Under comments are links to other fb pages. From there, look at the person who has 10 friends. One of those friends is the one I am referring to.
 
  • #620
What does MOO stand for? Thanks!
I probably over use it to avoid any confusion with facts. I also find myself wanting to text it at the end of a text and even sometimes in real life conversation. Usually a hint I need to take a break from WS . ;-)
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
141
Guests online
2,062
Total visitors
2,203

Forum statistics

Threads
632,274
Messages
18,624,192
Members
243,072
Latest member
heckingpepperooni
Back
Top