Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #17

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That is so weird! AH was the case that brought me to websleuths, I was all over that thread, but then didn'tcheck it for a week or so. I got this sudden, intense urge to go check it one day, not a sick feeling, just this "you need to check now" feeling. I started reading to catch up what I had missed the past week or so and got to the last page (at the time) just as the good news was posted.

Mollie's case has had me thinking of AH frequently, my gut feeling throughout both has been the same. I also always think of her whenever I hear a Beatles song. I so deeply hope Mollie's case has a similar outcome.
Yes, AH’s Case was one followed heavily on WS. She was only 14 poor thing. I referenced earlier here the unspeakable conditions under which she was being held in captivity (confined and restrained in a hot storage shed, T-shirt over her head with a motocycle helmet on top, chained to a bed, tube to a fish tank for water... ). There were many members who disagreed with each other and it got very heated at times. Many people accused her of being voluntarily missing and were not very nice. There were only a few of us members I have to say who thought she had met with foul play. I was strongly in that camp. At the exact moment right before AH was being released, Skibby and I both suddenly got this awful awful sick feeling, like pit in the stomach awful about what she might be experiencing and suddenly both went to thread at the same moment to discuss it. All I can say is it was very coincidentally intuitive 9 months in and Skibby and I talked later many times about how weird it was that both of us suddenly got this awful awful sick feeling at the exact same moment. And a few minutes later she was free.

After she was safe I very angrily asked that members who had been wrongly accusing her of being a runaway etc immediately apologize. Honestly I was ashamed and appalled at some people’s victim blaming which occurred intensely over 9 months. I am very glad to not see that occurring here. I think of AH often and hope that she is doing well.
 
  • #543
Just throwing a thought out there about suicide. How many avid runners are suicidal? To me it seems running is very cathartic and I’ve heard runners say that. If she wasn’t running for training and she was depressed it makes no sense. Depressed people generally have ambition to do much of anything.
I had a teacher that would run to help his mood.
 
  • #544
Parents never mentioned asthma...seems like they would have by now?
 
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For me I'm going to need an entire box.

ETA: No one had a phone to call LE...sure.

No phone. And no witnesses to vehicles driving 120 mph on the freeway that had phones, either. Not to mention the description of the alleged stalker. Disappointing to even see this being reported in MSM.
 
  • #546
rare is the high school romance that survives one of the involved going off to college without at least a break-up / get back together. Usually the person who went off to college breaks up around Thanksgiving and then gets back together the following summer break.

MT's job involved working with children, some sort of summer camp thing? Hopefully they've vetted the parents of the kids she worked with.

Assuming LE's at an impasse w/r/t MT's digital trail then the perp would have to be someone she interacted with exclusively IRL. e.g., a father of one of the camp kids?
 
  • #547
If WC is the guy, which I personally don’t think he is, where would he hide Mollie? Maybe they keep visiting him to occupy him from doing something. I’m sure he’s under 24/7 surveillance, but he doesn’t seem to go anywhere anyway.

He was out following his exs kids today apparently per that news clip...


I feel like a lot of posters here are not familiar with the life of a 20 year old girl. If you haven’t been one in a while or haven’t raised one, then I think that might be why there is a such a misunderstanding over Mollies social media posts. Honestly, hers are tame as can be and on the much more positive note than most girls her age. At the very least, she seems emotionally stable which is more than I can say for a lot of posts I see from girls her age. Being in the equestrian world myself, I am surrounded by women of that age, all ages but majority 15-50. Not a single thing she posts has alarm bells running for me.
 
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No phone. And no witnesses to vehicles driving 120 mph on the freeway that had phones, either. Not to mention the description of the alleged stalker. Disappointing to even see this being reported in MSM.

Not only that, but the lady was DRIVING 120 mph to lose the guy. Come on Karen, your Toyota Corolla doesn't go that fast.
 
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I know everyone wants her home...but it is difficult to “hope” for what she may be undergoing while we wait and hope even with the chance of escape, rescue etc... you really have to hope she DID just take off due to pressures and when wedding was cancelled, just did not know how to reappear. Jmo
 
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New video of missing Iowa jogger Mollie Tibbetts from day before she went missing
Doesn’t appear to be too revealing because it’s so short. She appears happy.
 
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Just throwing a thought out there about suicide. How many avid runners are suicidal? To me it seems running is very cathartic and I’ve heard runners say that. If she wasn’t running for training and she was depressed it makes no sense. Depressed people generally have ambition to do much of anything.

Depends on the motivation. Dysmorphia has certainly created an incessant need to run in many cases, and depression is rooted within it.

JMO.
 
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You're welcome. I know there are a few who can't watch these videos, so just trying to help. Way behind now though, lol.

Here are the highlights from the rest of the video:

  • DAD: (Speaking of law enforcement) One of the most impressive groups of people he has met. Not only are they skilled, but they are motivated. Many are telling him that they have children Mollie's age and this is very personal for them. They're very angry people.
  • DALTON: (He is asked if he could talk to this person, what would he say?) He responds, "Uh, words that you can't say on TV."
  • DAD: (Same question) If you're with Mollie now, you obviously don't mean to hurt her, and this has gone far enough. You need to stop now and you need to face the consequences of what you've done so far, but if it goes any further it's going to get worse for you and, it's going to get worse for everyone, so just stop now. End this and let Mollie come home and face the consequences for just this.
  • MOM: I don't care about who the person was if we have her safe and sound.
  • DAD: We just miss Mollie. It's the "not knowing."
  • MOM: Doesn't know if she disappeared on her run or made it back to the house.
  • DALTON: They have known each other since 4th grade but started dating three years ago, coming up on three years. She was a grade lower. His HS class was 60 people.
  • MOM: Day is filled with phone calls and well wishes and managing her life with Mollie's two brothers. Hasn't had time to think about what comes next.
  • DAD: At some point, he needs to go back to California. His life there and been on hold, and he doesn't know when "that is" (when he'll go back). It was going to be in a week because they would find Mollie, then it was going to be in another week and they're all just in this state of limbo. He says as long as we can keep looking and be effective and be helpful to the authorities, we'll all keep putting in the effort.
Link to video: 13Raw: Tibbetts Family Keeping Hope Alive That Mollie Will Come Home Safe
That’s a very good video it’s about 25min long. My heart just aches for her family and Dalton. He seems like a really sweet guy. All of them are trying to stay strong. As a mom myself of a 20 year old I could tell her Mom is a shattered mess inside struggling with what’s happened to her baby girl, but trying to hold it together. Sadly, after watching them together I have less hope she’s alive. I just have that bad feeling this is a really bad especially with posters here posting pics of the dense cornfields and that it’s so easy to hide a body. She also posted a photo of her two boys in between the stalks you could not see them at all. Plus all that rural land she could be buried in s shallow grave and never be found. So sad. Has LE used any dogs in the searches? I haven’t seen any pics of them.
 
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Not only that, but the lady was DRIVING 120 mph to lose the guy. Come on Karen, your Toyota Corolla doesn't go that fast.
Thanks for the literal laugh out loud!

Gives additional perspective to why LE may be reluctant to release additional information. Can you imagine the number of "tips" and "reports" if we knew more? Double edged sword, of course.
 
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Parents never mentioned asthma...seems like they would have by now?
Thank you! It's been said over and over, she does not have asthma! It just never seems to die. meh.
 
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jumping off this, ive also never been convinced her mom wasnt concerned about the no show for dinner. just bc she/they waited until thursday morning (including the bf/brothers input about her not responding/getting the car) doesnt mean at dinner she was like "lol wheres mollie but yay, more brats for us"

since le has released so little, i think its possible she actually was concerned why mollie didnt show but at first, was worried it was more emotional (re fight w the bf, wedding drama, class assignment) and at first was prying her brother(s) for info about mollie's mood that day, tried contact her multiple times herself, maybe texted her dad and as the night went on, stated to get more concerned. mollie was an adult partially living w her bf, i can see why a missing report wasnt attempted to be filed within the first 6 - 8 hours, some of which were late evening time. her family may be kicking themselves now but i think its entirely understandable the first official action (we know of) was thursday, imo.

I don't think she was concerned at all.

From what the public has been told, the mother texted her and let her know she could come home to get some dinner. That does not mean the family was going to have a sit-down meal. If their family is like most, in the summers when kids are going different directions, you tend to just have dinner available and they get it when they can between meet-ups with friends, getting off work, etc..

Mollie asked her what the food was, and she said brats.

Mollie responded with nothing but an "OK."

Mollie didn't say she'd be there. As far as we know, no time to eat was identified. I think the "OK" was just an acknowledgement that Mollie knew and understood the invitation and might or might not show up.

When I had kids that age, not living at home but living in town, I sometimes let them know if we had extra food. Sometimes they showed up, sometimes they got a better offer and didn't. It just wasn't a big deal either way - I didn't 'expect' them if they just said "OK" when I told them what we were eating.

My guess is that Mollie's mom had the same reaction and knew she might - or might not - show up. So, her not showing up didn't set off any alarm bells.

Some have said they definitely would've checked in on their daughter if they thought she even *might* come but then didn't. There have been a few statements made that left the impression that perhaps Mollie and her mom sometimes waked on eggshells with each other (clearly, she was close to her dad, the mom's ex, and the brothers have made some public negative comments about family dynamics). That's all rather normal, I think, in divorce situations. I only bring it up to say that if things were sometimes touchy between them, the Mom probably did her best not to play the helicopter part. There's a fine line between being protective and letting your child have independence, and in any familial relationship, parents usually do their best to respect that line. I am guessing the Mom did this with Mollie and wouldn't have nagged her with lots of, "Are you coming? Where are you?" texts.
 
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For me I'm going to need an entire box.

ETA: No one had a phone to call LE...sure.
It’s already been reported it has been a bunch of trolls and fake profiles.
 
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I'm taking those "reports" with a LARGE grain of salt. Moo.

Can you tell me what this is about in a nutshell? Can't clear browser at the moment.
 
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mollie looks unhappy, something is way off...mollie is more than just a sweet little cheerleader.

it doesn't mean she wasn't abducted. this is a good lesson of how someone's looks can be deceiving. I see someone else here, and it's concerning.

looks to me like she was having misgivings about many things..

I am worried because these things can be a catalyst .

but unhappy people, who maybe aren't ready

for primetime
for the country
for marriage
for adulthood
for pressure

can definitely be in danger in so many ways.

based on her photos and postings I would not rule out clinical or situational depression and suicide, even though she was going through the motions.

MOO
There is something that has been on my mind since day one and I don't want to upset anyone but I've been wondering about the upcoming wedding and wondering if she was upset about the brother of her boyfriend getting married. Just saying. Can't get it out of my mind. JMO
 
  • #560
Thank you! It's been said over and over, she does not have asthma! It just never seems to die. meh.
Thanks! I removed that reference from the post.
 
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