Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #20

[cluciano63]

See your "inbox" aka private message (pm)

Thanks, thought maybe there was something new...

 

[Michael Collins]

Michael Collins - we are not allowed to sleuth Mollie’s family or her boyfriend’s the thread will get locked indefinitely.

I'm not doing any of this there is no details I'm just asking how many brothers is there

 

[kkdj]

i hope Mr Tibbetts is being cautious. Someone did this; and he seems to be going out there searching, alone

He is a desperate and very loving father imo. If it were my child I would be looking everywhere, anywhere everyday. I do not think fear would be part of my vocabulary. In fact I know so. My daughter had a stalker for years. We as parents will go to the ends of the earth for our children.

 

[sun16]

Very concerning question, what happens to the reward money if she is not returned safe?

It goes to her family or crime stoppers. It states that on the tip forms.

 

[dlharris2712]

This just makes me so sad. To see Mr. Tibbett's out there at the fair, looking for his daughter. A life shattered into a million shards- a life sentence of pain. There is just no way I can not feel the enormity of this situation.
Mollie would not hurt her loved ones like this intentionally.
Lord and angels above please bring Mollie home!
JMO

Today has found me being "weepy" about Mollie...looking (for the first time) at her SM posts and messages. Clearly, she was loved so much and her missing is heartbreaking for so many. jmo... :-(

 

[Jon Glass]

Thoughts...
I have no idea where MT was, either on her run or at DJ's, but, I'm thinking that there had to be more than 1 person involved. Just due to the fact that it has to be difficult to control someone, and drive at the same time. This thought is based on the theory that she didn't willingly leave.
Next, im thinking that her sim card and/or Fitbit got tossed near the hog farm (WC)... Which means that they were headed south of I80... That probably rules out running off to Utah. I'm also thinking that she is still within 30 mile radius, south of the interstate, due to the last known siting, and the 9:45 Snapchat picture.
LE has not sounded the warning alarm for people in the area, meaning that they see this as an incident that is solely related to MT. If there was a danger to the community, LE would forced to alert the local public. Again, there has been no such public warning.
LE... Obviously knows far more than we do. My bet is that they know almost all of what happened, but the parts they don't know are pretty important, and preclude them from making any moves.
I wish I felt better about what I think her condition is... I'll spare you what I think happened, idI rather be hopeful. if this case does ever break, I'm feeling incredibly strong that she is still fairly close to home.

 

[brainstorm2018]

Fitbit that was posted syncs every 30 minutes

Thank for info

Thus does that give fitbit prior ping would've been 30 min prior and fitbit/phone could have remained near one another for up to another 30 min before last observed ping, additional time lapse allowing for additional possible travel beyond ping associated with farm?

 

[FindHG]

Very concerning question, what happens to the reward money if she is not returned safe?

That was a question during the crime stoppers press conference with Mollie's parents. If memory serves me correctly, it was said the funds would be returned to the donors.

 

[mountainguy777]

He is a desperate and very loving father imo. If it were my child I would be looking everywhere, anywhere everyday. I do not think fear would be part of my vocabulary. In fact I know so. My daughter had a stalker for years. We as parents will go to the ends of the earth for our children.

Boom.

 

[Michael Collins]

Thank for info

Thus does that give fitbit prior ping would've been 30 min prior and fitbit/phone could have remained near one another for up to another 30 min before last observed ping, additional time lapse allowing for additional possible travel beyond ping associated with farm?

And it pinging at his farm doesn't mean someone didn't drive by with it in the vehicle

 

[Crystal Regan]

Very concerning question, what happens to the reward money if she is not returned safe?

There is a donor agreement that is filled out with the donation.
http://www.crimestoppersweb.com/772/Pictures/DonationAgreementForm-V2-3-1.docx555.pdf
It goes to the family or it can be returned to the donor. You can also donate anonymously per form.

 

[Q.E.D.]

Michael Collins - we are not allowed to sleuth Mollie’s family or her boyfriend’s the thread will get locked indefinitely.

People can do whatever kind of sleuthing they want. They just can’t report anything at all related to that type of sleuthing on WS.

 

[SharonNeedles]

<modsnipped- not victim friendly>

While I’m absolutely convinced that Mollie made it home from her run and left voluntarily with someone unknown later in the evening, I believe it’s most likely she intended to return before morning. And honestly, I believe LE knows that already. They just don’t know who she left with, where they went or what happened that she didn’t return.

 

[bestill]

Mollie would have to grant someone explicit permission (essentially "friending" them on the fitbit app/website) for anyone besides Mollie to view her runs/workout history/weight etc. Fitbit should have a record of anyone Mollie granted such permissions to.

2 Notes from this article:

1. "Authorities have NOT found her Fitbit or cellphone."

2. "The reward fund offered for the safe return of a missing University of Iowa student has grown to more than $332,000."

That language suggests Mollie has to return, Sharon Papini style, alive and well to get the reward. Is there a separate reward for turning in someone who is ultimately held responsible for MT's disappearance, in the worst case scenario she's not alive and well?

My guess is most people will assume the reward is for any info about Mollie's disappearance; which could be a helpful lack of understanding by the general public.


Mollie Tibbetts reward fund reaches $332,000

BBM that seems to me to be speaking directly to the one that has her or the ones that may know where she is. Why would you not ask and reward someone for information that leads you to her? Strange wording, imo

 

[sun16]

That was a question during the crime stoppers press conference with Mollie's parents. If memory serves me correctly, it was said the funds would be returned to the donors.

If the donors put that on their form. There is a box you have to check for that. If not it goes to MT family or CS

 

[know_what_i'm_sayin']

My take on what happened...and I have read every single post from the very first page...and of course my own experiences figure into this.
I think someone in her circle (not college friends) knew about the crew going out of town and that MT would be alone.
This information was pounced on as the perfect opportunity to cause some harm to MT. I can't accept that someone did not use this opportunity to their advantage.
It was someone "known to her" casually. Someone that thought she was cute and very easy to stalk, or creep on or catch.

I personally believe he watched her somewhere close to the house, when she went for a run, there was the next opportunity. This person followed her until she was in a spot where he could make his move..either he went on ahead after he figured out her route and hid somewhere or waited for her to pass by (which I think is highly likely) or he caught up to her somewhere isolated in her run.

MOO of course!

I 100% agree with this theory. I work with the public and have in my career encountered clients who took a liking to me without my inviting this... one in particular was texting super inappropriate/sexual in nature stuff and I started to feel unsafe as to his intentions. I started booking his appointments very close to other clients, so I'd never be alone with him and the studio was buzzing with people during his visits. I did this to also give him the message he was one of many clients I meet with and nothing "special". He's still really creepy and my guard is always up when he's around.

So it's absolutely possible something like this occurred, someone she didn't expect showed her attention she did not feel comfortable receiving.... and I think it went south from here.

 

[MassGuy]

Thoughts...
I have no idea where MT was, either on her run or at DJ's, but, I'm thinking that there had to be more than 1 person involved. Just due to the fact that it has to be difficult to control someone, and drive at the same time. This thought is based on the theory that she didn't willingly leave.
Next, im thinking that her sim card and/or Fitbit got tossed near the hog farm (WC)... Which means that they were headed south of I80... That probably rules out running off to Utah. I'm also thinking that she is still within 30 mile radius, south of the interstate, due to the last known siting, and the 9:45 Snapchat picture.
LE has not sounded the warning alarm for people in the area, meaning that they see this as an incident that is solely related to MT. If there was a danger to the community, LE would forced to alert the local public. Again, there has been no such public warning.
LE... Obviously knows far more than we do. My bet is that they know almost all of what happened, but the parts they don't know are pretty important, and preclude them from making any moves.
I wish I felt better about what I think her condition is... I'll spare you what I think happened, idI rather be hopeful. if this case does ever break, I'm feeling incredibly strong that she is still fairly close to home.

Abductions perpetrated by a lone individual are far more common than a team of kidnappers. One scenario is this guy sees her running, pulls ahead, and lies in wait, forcing her into his car as she passes. He also could have threatened her with a weapon. I’m not saying that this happened, I’m just saying that it wouldn’t be all that difficult.

 

[cody22]

Some notable language in the donation agreement Crime Stoppers of Central Iowa has you fill out when you make a donation:

1. "The donor signing this Donation Agreement Form agrees that Crime Stoppers has the authority to determine whether information provided qualifies as “leading to Mollie Tibbetts’ safe return” such that the information would qualify for the Reward Money. "


2. "If information is provided to Crime Stoppers, the family of Mollie Tibbetts, or authorized law enforcement prior to August 1, 2020, and if this information leads to Mollie Tibbetts’ safe return, Crime Stoppers will transfer the entirety of the Reward Money to the person providing the information."

3. "If no information leading to Mollie Tibbetts’ safe return is provided to Crime Stoppers, the family of Mollie Tibbetts, or authorized law enforcement by August 1, 2020, the Reward Money will automatically be disbursed to Mollie Tibbetts’ family and/or Crime Stoppers, unless the donor signing this form checks the box below and complies with all further instructions in this paragraph.. If the box below is checked, First State Bank will hold the donor’s donation until November 1, 2020. The donor’s donation will be returned only if the person signing this Donation Agreement Form and checking the box below then requests these funds from First State Bank and presents First State Bank with full proof of identity no later than November 1, 2020."

My goodness ! The family and Crimestoppers could come into quite a bit of money, if Mollie is not alive when found or stays missing.

 

[bestill]

This just makes me so sad. To see Mr. Tibbett's out there at the fair, looking for his daughter. A life shattered into a million shards- a life sentence of pain. There is just no way I can not feel the enormity of this situation.
Mollie would not hurt her loved ones like this intentionally.
Lord and angels above please bring Mollie home!
JMO

I so agree! It really is so sad and they are living in hell right now, just clinging.

 

[Emerald1328]

This just makes me so sad. To see Mr. Tibbett's out there at the fair, looking for his daughter. A life shattered into a million shards- a life sentence of pain. There is just no way I can not feel the enormity of this situation.
Mollie would not hurt her loved ones like this intentionally.
Lord and angels above please bring Mollie home!
JMO

I’ve mentioned it before but I live (and grew up) in the Des Moines area and go to the fair every year, multiple times a year. Have since I was 4 years old and it’s always been a special place to me (especially after my mom died 7 years ago - the fair was her very favorite thing in the world - my dad used to say they would take $200 out of the bank for the fair and he would get $50 of that - and had to use his $50 to pay for parking and tickets and my mom got the rest for food haha) Anyways, hearing on the local news today about the Tibbetts family going to the fair to get the word out about Mollie sure brings back memories from several years ago when the Collins/Cook family did the same with Elizabeth and Lyric. I know with the hundreds of thousands of people that go there it is an excellent venue for that...it just breaks my heart.