Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #24

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  • #161
Could be but aren't they more difficult to get in and out of without getting all scratched up?

Not to make light of it but…….One would think if one were intent on doing harm not to mention killing someone a few scratches here or there --not a problem!
 
  • #162
She had an iPhone and I know there's a Find My Phone option. I'm an Android user so I have absolutely no idea how it works.

I have an iphone. I misplaced my phone once, and used the find my phone app on my ipad. The app pinpointed my phone in my garage. The location was 100% accurate in inches.
 
  • #163
My feeling is going the other way :(
(My feeling has always been the same as yours now, so I thought it was weird, the sudden glimpse of optimism...I think we all go back and forth in our heads with various scenarios...I never really thought she could be alive until now, a fleeting thought as I suddenly remember Gary Ridgeway’s words last night (coincidentally turned on a Dateline “...Blood Mountain”... we had been discussing him upstream..

What was it he said, something along the lines of, “if you take someone, you have to kill them, bc otherwise they will turn you in”.

He said he was “hunting”...his victims not only included women, but an elderly couple as well.
 
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  • #164
I still feel this is the case. How long she will be alive is another question.
It's a liability to whoever took her to keep her alive. But hey, some do depending on their objective. Obviously money isn't doing it for them.
We have to remember too that someone could have hit her with their car and they are hiding that. Maybe a drunk driver?
 
  • #165
I'm fairly certain the "something she did most nights" is in reference to the run.

I agree -but, the statement isn’t worded the best. Lots of room for misinterpretation.
 
  • #166
I thought Kansas, but same diff!

I think you said you were in CO? I NEVER ran the trails in CO because there were so many sexual assaults on them (many attempted ones as well). From Fort Collins to Littleton- it scared me enough that I preferred the gym.
 
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  • #168
In the 'what we know' list there is this question:
  • Mollie's mom was asked by FBI if Mollie was "in a home" at 9:45
Has this not been answered already? Surely the answer would be 'no'?
 
  • #169
She may have, but I doubt that she would have taken her contacts out to study -- if she got home that night after her jog -- doubtful, IMO. Certainly she would have removed them before she went to bed.
Seems to me, on the next day, she would have put them in to go to her mom's house and to work for the day. But, as we've said, she could have had a second pair. We still don't know if she ever got home that night.
 
  • #170
So I had something happen yesterday that I thought I’d share. I stopped for gas, and a biker that had rode in on his Harley, approached me making small talk about the racks on top of my car. Asked, if I had a surf board (this is TN,) asked if I was a college student yada yada... I was friendly enough and obliging but really wanted to get the hell out of there. I give him a minute or two to make his small talk and then I left. That’s when it hit me. Being a female in the south, how many times have I ignored an instinct, just to be obliging or friendly? How many times, have I not wanted to be seen as rude, so I entertain conversation with someone I have no interest in talking to? How many other women do this on a frequent basis? I know I have numerous times and never really given it much of a thought. I wonder how many women have been harmed because they just didn’t want to come across as rude? I’m not saying this is the case with what happened to Mollie but this case has had me thinking for sure.
 
  • #171
It's a liability to whoever took her to keep her alive. But hey, some do depending on their objective. Obviously money isn't doing it for them.
We have to remember too that someone could have hit her with their car and they are hiding that. Maybe a drunk driver?
A drunk driver would likely flee, not take the injured or dead victim with them. If she was hit by a car and taken, it would have been intentional.
 
  • #172
Welcome to Websleuths, NiHammm!
 
  • #173
Been away most of the weekend.
PC still scheduled for 3:30?
 
  • #174
She may have, but I doubt that she would have taken her contacts out to study -- if she got home that night after her jog -- doubtful, IMO. Certainly she would have removed them before she went to bed.
Seems to me, on the next day, she would have put them in to go to her mom's house and to work for the day. But, as we've said, she could have had a second pair. We still don't know if she ever got home that night.
It also depends on whether she was nearsighted or farsighted. I'm nearsighted and wear contacts for distance. Without my contacts I see very well up close and have trouble reading with my contacts in. I usually remove my contacts when I get home where I need near distance vision more.
 
  • #175
80 min!
 
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This first bullet point is troublesome for me, and the lack of clarity in the writing is one of the reasons we go round and round and round on what was meant/said.

In this instance, I don’t think the exact context really matters - yet there is potential confusion about what the ‘something she did most nights’ refers to. Does this ‘something’ refer to the run? To texting to her mom at 7:30 (about anything that happened during the day)? To the time of her run? Or, any combination of these options?

This is really a rhetorical question, as we have no way of knowing the intent of the writer. Yet, it is an indicator of why some of us can read/interpret words/statements one way, and others differently.

My first feeling when reading the article was, texting her mom before starting her run was just part of her normal routine before leaving the house on a run. Either for safety reasons/being a responsible woman/something runners do, just letting someone know and MT didn't expect a response from Mom.

My Husband does the same thing before he starts his job and it's something risky he is doing... he says I am doing this, in this area, and I will be done around x time if you cannot reach me , that's why.
 
  • #178
It's a liability to whoever took her to keep her alive. But hey, some do depending on their objective. Obviously money isn't doing it for them.
We have to remember too that someone could have hit her with their car and they are hiding that. Maybe a drunk driver?
I've entertained this idea as well. But are her known running routes far enough out of town, or remote enough to discount someone coming across the scene? I would also imagine there would be some sort of evidence left?

I don't really think the PC will give us anything substantial, but with them cancelling two last week, maybe they are ready to outline the reasons they are searching certain areas.
 
  • #179
A drunk driver would likely flee, not take the injured or dead victim with them. If she was hit by a car and taken, it would have been intentional.
That's sensible but not everyone has common sense, especially in fear. Plus there's always the guilt one would feel if they injured or killed someone. They just might want to hide it.
 
  • #180
Been gone and just jumping in. I watched the tapes that SharonNeedles posted and honestly I felt so very bad for the Tibbetts family. Needles, by accident, captured Mr. Tibbetts givng an interview by Casey's. That poor man. His daughter missing and there he was maybe all alone. Looked like maybe four or five people. Mr. Tibbetts, cameraman, interviewer and another one or two. That whole town seemed to be locked down tight. I think I saw maybe half a dozen people out on the whole five tapes.
I hope he is getting the support her needs. I heard he's staying in a hotel and I'm thinking his wife had to return to her job in CA. Seems like DJ was and might still be his sidekick. Poor man who can't find his Pie, as he called her. Sad.
 
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